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Hover Junkie 5th Dec 2007 09:57

CHC Africa Closing Down
 
Just heard this nasty rumour that CHC Africa in Cape Town is closing its doors. Is this for real and if so, what will happen to the pilots, machines, contracts etc. etc. ? Anybody with some news please?:uhoh:

pilotkidsmum 6th Dec 2007 19:18

Would this include CHC Nigeria?

Very_Low_and_Fast 25th Jan 2008 12:24

Hover,

It appears nobody was surprised by this…

:}

JABAG 25th Jan 2008 18:22

Just for your Info,
there is no CHC Nigeria. There is AEROCONTRATORS with CHC holding a stake in Aero.

:)

BALEWA 25th Jan 2008 20:01

Nigerian Champion
 
And Aero is waxing even stronger.

I hear 2 more -500's on the way to Aerocontractors in Lagos, no wonder the strategic recruitment drive going on. And apart from KK, I gather some excellent local F/O's and Captain's also absorbed by Aero in the last few days for the B737 fleet.

West and East Coast operations are picking up, hope they will grab as much of the market as possible out there. :ok:

Well done and all the best to this champion airline. :D Proud.

Balewa

JABAG 26th Jan 2008 20:21

What has KK been ofered at Aero?
I hear some other big shots are going over.:confused:

BALEWA 27th Jan 2008 15:31

JABAG, which one b big shot again now!!!

:confused: spill the beans my guy :confused:

Zazoo any insight from you Sir, or you still de vex with pprune house prefects ;)

MamaPut 27th Jan 2008 18:01

JABAG is quite correct, CHC is a 40% shareholder in Aero in common with almost all other foreign companies in Nigeria. The 60% stakeholders are the Ibru family, owners of Oceanic Bank, amongst other businesses. The CHC element of Aero has always been administered direct from Hongcouver as part of CHC International and was never a part of CHC Africa, which administers all other African operations of CHC.

Choppers Rule 21st Mar 2008 13:50

CHC SA office closing?
 
Any truth in the rumour that CHC is closing/seriously down sizing there Cape Town office?

lolita 23rd Mar 2008 04:22

CHC CHAD being closed down by CCAA
 
From BBC Radio 23 March 2008.

CCAA Cameroon today suspended CHC Helicopters AOC when they discovered CHC had not been clearing customs on international flights between Chad and Cameroon. The Twin Otter aircraft, planned direct N'Djamena, Chad to Douala, Cameroon required refuelling in Dompta or Belabo which where not Customs airports. Mr Craig Barraclough (CHC's Special Projects Manager) was quoted as saying "we do what we like here and if they (CCAA) don't like it we'll move our aircraft to Chad".

lolita 23rd Mar 2008 04:37

Mismanagement or Corruption
 
The word is that the "Nigerian Cockney" was helping himself to the funds and his 2IC 'Black Mike' was asking too much money for the nationals so CHC said we're out of here.

ROTARARY 24th Mar 2008 11:01

Interrogation
 
Lolita,
Careful what you say re Mr BarraClaus. We heard an engineer from over there was just taken to Gestapo HQ and interrogated and is now suspended after telling some home truths to Mr BarraClaus's Trolley Dolley girlfriend.
:=

FloatFlyFu.. 24th Mar 2008 16:39

CHC Africa
 
Nice to see that the same circus acts play in Camaroon and Chad! Anyone know more about Cape Town? There are many rumours of CV's being shown around and CHC standing to lose the George operation!!

Very_Low_and_Fast 25th Mar 2008 04:01

Choppers and Float, you ARE in SA and CT and you are asking around what is happening in your own back yard? I think you very well know but just trying to add some fuel on the fire?

Lolita, who gave you the name? Your father?
Something in your quote does not add up. Did Cameroon CCAA suspended Chad AOC? Read your post again.

:}

Choppers Rule 25th Mar 2008 08:36

:= Not trying to add fuel to the fire. The non SA based crew has only heard rumours. No statement has been issued. If the helicopters go onto the Canadian registery , it will have an impact on all the SA CAA licence holders.

max payload 25th Mar 2008 17:46

VLAF,

Lolita is right, historically CAA Cameroun has threatened (and acted on) closing down Schreiner/CHCs AOC a few times, same same for the Schreiner/CHC Tchadian AOC by CAA Tchad, for various reasons.
In each case the aircraft were moved to the other country until negotiations were paid up again, er, conformity was re-established.
What a circus.

More disturbing about the post is the geography... N'Djamena-Douala Twotter operations normally stop in halfway point and international airport N'Gaoundere is to clear customs and take fuel. A direct flight is possibly under the right conditions with much lower loads, but trip burn is usually a little shy of tank capacity.
The only reason to fly through Dompta and/or Belabo on these runs (apart from N'Goundere not being available for any reason in which case Ngoundal is always there) is an urgent commercial (client) requirement because it is way off-track for N'Djamena-Douala but right on-track for Kome/Moundou-Douala.

Whatever.

Maybe they should look for proper dispatchers :)

Max :ok:

p.s.: who's the trolley dolley?

ROTARARY 26th Mar 2008 16:04

Trolleys
 
Hey MaxPayload,
You sound like you are the man for the job over there in Cameroon.
Chief Trolley Dolly from CYVR.

jazee 27th Mar 2008 21:02

Is not a surprise that CCAA suspends the AOC in Cameroon and chad, this special project Manager is unprofessional,..

Very_Low_and_Fast 28th Mar 2008 03:05

Max,

Ah, dispatchers! Dispatchers-tell-pilots-where-to-go. Or was it Air-Traffic-Controllers-tell-pilots-where-to-go?
There are Pilots and Auto Pilots.
There are Engineers but there are no Auto Engineers.
There are Dispatchers but there are no Auto Dispatchers.
But wait, how about Self-Dispatched-Pilots? I am sure well made XL spreadsheet will do the trick. Just fill in the blanks…

:}

lolita 28th Mar 2008 13:50

CHC Brian Clegg
 
Brian Clegg vp operations and Craig Barraclough have been supeonead to appear in Cameroon court over allegations of importing aircraft parts in employee personal baggage to avid customs and duty costs.
Several DASH 8 pilots are expected to appear as witnesses.

ROTARARY 28th Mar 2008 17:02

Proof is in Results
 
Jazee, I think incompetent might be the more appropriate description.

Captain Buck 28th Mar 2008 17:59

Hah,

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair, though I doubt Barrer Stuff and Smeg would know or respect the difference between a sub peanut and a peanut butter jelly sandwich.

The whole history of this contract in Cameroon and Chad has been one of fraud, incompetence and cock-up from start to finish back from when Schreiner first started it and had to fire a certain manager because of missing money. When boy wonder went there he refused to talk to the CCAA and then wondered why nobody got Cameroonian licences any more (then got promoted to a great job in Brazil). The CHC take over was even more disastrous as they knew that they knew it all and no-one could teach them anything about operating in Africa. (It really helped sending one of Smeggie's chums to Nigeria who couldn't even pass a drug test :E). I hope the 2 of them finally get what's been coming to them for a long time. It'll be interesting to see if the recent take-over of CHC by an American company will make them have any real business integrity (and a few executives going to prison normally really helps with that :}). I'm hoping to see more revelations and some proper ass-kicking as this plays out.

Very_Low_and_Fast 29th Mar 2008 15:28

Hey Buckee, long time no see. Did you hair grow back in a mean time?

“Certain Manager” was there to run the business. And he did. If it wasn’t him, Schreiner would have not been in Cameroon at all (and Chad operation will be just an ACN outpost). Nor would be CHC in Cameroon. Maybe we should blame him then.
He was not interfering with Operations or trotting around like a big boss. Just run the business (no, he was not selling Douala chicken meat to Ndjamena restaurants).
Two Head Clowns in Hoofddorp wanted to get rid of him and used a petty excuse to fire him. He left, all started going downhill and trend never reversed.

mayotte 29th Mar 2008 23:08

Certain Manager was the one who say everything can be run with all aircrafts on Equatorial Guinea register. At least he talked with people but wasn't a very petty excuse to fire him when €30K couldn't be recovered. Boy Wonder couldn't even get his computer programmes to run, but is being looked after by somebody on high. I expect Heli Union will be the ones to benefit from it all. At least the French usually know how to conduct business in Africa.

TheNews 31st Mar 2008 12:40

Gender Confusion
 
Eh Rotarary - What are you talking about "girlfriend" ??
Its pretty well known here in gestapo hq as you call it that CB is batting for the other team.

ROTARARY 31st Mar 2008 21:53

Everything is Clear
 
haha thank you for the news TheNews - that explains a lot of things

lolita 2nd Apr 2008 00:57

CHC union ruling
 
http://www.cirb-ccri.gc.ca/collectio...s/RD0402_e.pdf

MamaPut 2nd Apr 2008 13:57

The News seems to be a new poster, probably CHC management trying to discredit posters like CB by saying they bat for another team. Well, no matter which team a player bats for, doesn't make him blind to what's happening on the pitch, no matter which side is in play. The players he's talking about as are unpopular in most CHC Global operations as they obviously seem to be in Cameroon as I haven't seen any posts from anyone springing to their defence :hmm:.

Rumor is that since the new owners, there are going to be many cutbacks in CHC Clobal and that Capetown is likely to be pruned back considerably, as may a number of other overseas operations. This is most likely to be support staff as there always seems to be a shortage of pilots and engineers. I wonder if this will include canine support staff :}. Over the coming months it will be interesting to see whether CHC is really going to be kept on as a going concern as-is, or whether barely profitable divisions will be sold off soon and others pared back to the bone to make them more profitable before getting sold off.

Phone Wind 2nd Apr 2008 17:27

Much though many may love the ever charming Barrer Stuffed and wish him well, it seems that the rumors of CHC's demise in Cameroon are rather hasty. However, the operation there is a total cluster-fcuk :E

chcmanagement 2nd Apr 2008 20:49

As usual this forum is so full of rumors they would displace the vipers from a sack of snakes. We are still fully operational in Cameroon, Messrs Clegg and Barraclough continue to have the full backing of management in smuggling whatever they need via Dompta or any other airfield and our employees are authorised to carry whatever we think they need to on our behalf in their suitcases. We spit in the milk of the Cameroonian CAA as we always have done - who do they think they are? We pay the bills and we call the tune there. The Schreiner management were weak and craven, thinking they could win just by ignoring these petty bureaucrats like governments and regulatory authorities. We're in charge now and we learned a long time ago in Africa that we just have to kick sand in their faces and tell them not to Fcuk with CH(u)C(k).
Captain Buck was a whinging, toady, whistleblower when he was here with Schreiner and he just can't accept that Yanquis aren't the only ones who know how to kick butt. Let him go back to his geekie toga parties and leave real life swindling to the men around here.

lolita 3rd Apr 2008 00:11

contacts please
 
Would anyone have contacts for either GSG or Crusty please.
Need urgent. Thanks in advance.
lolita.

Gray 14 4th Apr 2008 10:44

"Geekie toga parties" Ha!! Digging into the past on that one, but good darts none the less.

PO dust devil 7th Apr 2008 10:26

Heard all that ......back to the topic perleees. BUT What's that got to do with CHC Africa/Court ops.....What's happening on a local level at CTI?

Very_Low_and_Fast 11th Apr 2008 15:28

Answer to that question you might get from Bruce Deluce when he lands in Cape Town with a suitcase full with money.

:hmm:

lolita 23rd Apr 2008 12:10

Holiday Pay and other things
 
Heh Dobbin,
Don't spend all that cash just yet, you still have to pay outstanding holiday pay and other entitlements you stole from your expat pirots in CAMEROON and CHAD.
Canadian Industrial Relations are looking into the matter and are coming after you, pal.

How's that old slapper Christine telling us we dont need a union cause CHC have an open door policy, bahhh. How would you like my knee in your labia maximus, scrubber.


:cool:

lolita 27th Apr 2008 03:24

CHC Pigs helping themselves
 
This link is from the Canadian Legal institute website.
http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlig...006nlca47.html
Have a look at the management helping themselves to the money and then you'll know why cHc have to steal holiday pay and other entitlements from their employees.
CHC have now decided not to pay sick pay to pilots that are on limited benefits packages. What next?

Phone Wind 27th Apr 2008 13:55

Get back the winning team of Mani and Nabil who made aero the success it was in Nigeria before the arrogant, we-know-it-all-we don't-need-any-advice-from-you CHC management took it over and ruined a good company (Schreiner) :eek:

Very_Low_and_Fast 27th Apr 2008 19:52

Fish Bowl
 
Hey PW,

Beating the same old drum, eh? If I remember, you were very loud against Schreiner Fish Bowl Management few years ago (or was it just against SR?)

:rolleyes:

Phone Wind 27th Apr 2008 21:37

VLF,

Then if you know that you should know that despite anything Schreiner management did, Nabil and Mani were the only people here in Nigeria actually making a profit and keeping the whole Schreiner ship afloat. The old Schreiner management was pretty poor, but considering the scale of their operation it's amazing that the bunch of clowns who replaced them have even lasted this long. How on earth did CHC ever get itself to the position it was in before the recent start of its decline?

ROTARARY 6th May 2008 10:00

The Circus Tent
 
PHONE WIND,

Bunch of Clowns? .................. I thought this whole circus was an accidental side effect - but its the main act???

Ringmaster BarraClown eh

:ugh:


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