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musaQ 10th May 2007 16:00

I know of 'west Africans' who didnt make it all on first attempt. They struggled with their PPL exams too. Doubt if there's fraud - maybe they worked real hard or were really lucky.

forssi 10th May 2007 17:31

PPL exams
 
Well as of 1 May 2007, exams will also be written for your PPL at the CAA now.

"An ICAO Audit finding for the SA CAA has been that due to the lack of a national exam system at private pilot level, South Africa runs the risk of being found non-compliant during the ICAO Audit scheduled for June 2007. This could result in South African pilot licenses not being recognised internationally." ;)

UnDies 10th May 2007 19:46

Forssi - the plan was to start the 1st May with all PPL exams to be undertaken at the CAA - however, planning on their side (CAA) failed and thus all PPL exams are still writen at the individual flight school.

3rdBogey 11th May 2007 09:23

Time heals all
 
I remember well, some time back, that certain National pilots had been cornered and uncovered for cheating at their ATPL theory exams. Right? Well, what happened to them? Are they today your boss? Are they today flying YOUR children around as UM's? But then, does it really matter????? What does ONLY appear to matter, is that they are still holding those positions......
I have a feeling about why nothing ever was pushed in their case. Think about it, someone-somewhere, went to a great deal of trouble and effort to catch out these individuals. Correctly. But, assuming that their system was to be given the questions prior to writing, HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU EVER PROVE THAT THEY ARE RUBBISH-CHEAT-BRIGAND PILOTS????? They come in, like all others, sit down, complete the exam, now all on record, and VOILA!!! No problem! Practically impossible to prove! But I'm sure they are there still.
Oh yes, I do remember now, they later (collectively) said it was all a joke. Amazing.

Sonny_S 11th May 2007 20:09

I've heard from a friend that was in johannesburg writing exams that this one day a few guys wrote navigation in like 15 minutes, didn't even open the charts and wrote 100% each... !

I don't know that to make of that...just sharing a rumour.. =)

/S

Goffel 12th May 2007 20:17

Sheeeeeet........I did that as well.......sat down to write Met, did not open a chart, nor anything else, finished in 13 mins, pushed the button......and .....walllllllllaaaaaaah.

Failed....eisch...what did I do wrong...(just did not study, thats what I did wrong).

Just because your friend has a friend that has a chommie, that has an uncle who has a chick, who incidentally knows the doorman at the pub, who somehow heard on the news that Gunz is giving away FEE Tassies, does not actually mean it is true.

There are guys that have sat down, taken a chance with some of the questions and passed.

But to all the guys that are really adamant that there is something amiss, gets some ganonies and put pen to paper, sign your name and do something about it....Or ?????????????..

Simple dont you think.

Goffel..(still without an ATP).

Contract Dog 13th May 2007 09:16

SS, If these guys finished in 15min flat, why did they stick round for 2 hrs to tell your mate their mark? Have just sat the exam and every person who left that hall in 15min, pass or fail, was nowhere to be found after that exam to brag about their marks.

There are enough questions floating around that are word for word to those that you get in the exam to the extent that in my nav paper, though I took the full 2 hrs to work it all out and double check, 50% of the questions were ones I had done at home and remembered the answers, did I cheat? no, just happend that the work I put in at home and mock exams I did were exactly the same questions that were in the exam!

Dog

Hoveronly 13th May 2007 12:07

Well nothing like this would ever happen in Kenya! :hmm:

Flygirl-69 29th May 2007 08:12

I used to work in a flight school environment and saw it first hand, regarding the guys who couldn't pass. Eventually after a good few hours they would get their PPL's a lot of them ended up not making the grade for the CPL exams. Not that I am defending anyone, I have also been a witness to someone who was involved in something fraudulent but nothing ever came of it. A lot can be bought for a price. I have also noticed, in my period there that a few of the guys realise after their PPL's how much work needs to be done and go and work their butts off to pass those exams, so I feel it is really half a dozen of one and six of the other....

unstable load 30th May 2007 12:51

Back in my dim and distant youth I wrote the Nigerian Air Law and passed first time and a colleague was on his 3rd attempt and failed again. I am South African and he was a Brit...........something about colonialism, maybe.......:E:E

Only a rumour, mind you.

at the beach 30th May 2007 13:19

psst........need a PhD
 
psst........need a PhD

for a small fee.............contact DBN "uni"

fraud at CAA...............never............never (did anybody ever get taken to task for the saa chaps who seemed under Suspicion

:=:=:=:=:=

B Sousa 1st Jun 2007 05:15

As one who has had a validation a few times in SA. I wish I knew how to go around things, but since I didnt, I took the Air Law and got my validation. As I always say, I liked it so much I took it twice. It was an interesting experience but I saw no signs of any fraud via the computer. I sat with others who were also taking a variety of different exams.
I actually think it was very Professionally handled, considering how things are going now.
If there is fraud, it would have to be done by those who know who to grease and not someone like me, just off the street.

Foo-Fighter 1st Jun 2007 07:07

whatever comes from this...

...if anyone indeed has that question http:// ...i for one would really appreciate the link!

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