Superb B1900 Video in Africa!!!
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Superb B1900 Video in Africa!!!
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Great Video?
Big up to the 
crew for barrel rolling an aircraft that is not approved for such a manoeuvre and it is only limited to 60 degrees max bank. Either crew not aware of aircraft limitations or just don't care for them.
I hope I never have the misfortune of flying that aircraft. It will be the crew that are flying that heap in a few thousand hours time through bad weather that will pay the price.
I have heard that a 1900 that has been barrel rolled starts to show when the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail. The aircraft generaly has a very light fuselage and I doubt it can withstand that sort of abuse for long.
I don't think that is a video to be proud of!
crew for barrel rolling an aircraft that is not approved for such a manoeuvre and it is only limited to 60 degrees max bank. Either crew not aware of aircraft limitations or just don't care for them. I hope I never have the misfortune of flying that aircraft. It will be the crew that are flying that heap in a few thousand hours time through bad weather that will pay the price.
I have heard that a 1900 that has been barrel rolled starts to show when the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail. The aircraft generaly has a very light fuselage and I doubt it can withstand that sort of abuse for long.
I don't think that is a video to be proud of!
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Originally Posted by FCS Explorer
isn't a barrel roll a 1G manouver? so, if executed properly the a/c doesn't know it's upside down and doesn't suffer more G's than in straight and level flight??
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Originally Posted by beckers
I have heard that a 1900 that has been barrel rolled starts to show when the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail. The aircraft generaly has a very light fuselage and I doubt it can withstand that sort of abuse for long.
You "heard"... I see... Well, tell me how "the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail" with a 1G maneuver that does not involve any sideslip??? And what impact does it have on the fuselage??? Can you please enlighten us with a bit of an explanation, or is the word you heard good enough for us???
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Barrel rolls are all very good, IF you know what you are doing and you don't lose the aircraft in the manouvre. A certain 200 that got severely bent in, uhem, turbulence on a dead leg comes to mind..... One of the ex Rossair 1900s was rather bent with visibly wrinkled skins, widely suspected to be caused by a similar manouvre gone wrong.
The prototype Boeing 707 was rolled over Chicago - aaah yes, those were the days. Needless to say the test pilot was called in for cup of tea and a chat. But he knew what he was doing and trained in aerobatics.
The prototype Boeing 707 was rolled over Chicago - aaah yes, those were the days. Needless to say the test pilot was called in for cup of tea and a chat. But he knew what he was doing and trained in aerobatics.
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Agree with Woof etc and beckers.
Just like to add, the pilot does not seem to be able to keep the A/C in the centre of the strip i.e., cant "nail the centre line" on t/o and landing, which shows he or she is not in full controll of the A/C.
Suggestion they get the basics right, leave the aero's to the current airshow pilots and approved A/C and the low flying to the current AG pilots.
I wonder if the pilot had the brains to think what might happen in the case of a bird strike? The results could well have been fatal.
Don't do it as it just ain't worth it.
Just like to add, the pilot does not seem to be able to keep the A/C in the centre of the strip i.e., cant "nail the centre line" on t/o and landing, which shows he or she is not in full controll of the A/C.
Suggestion they get the basics right, leave the aero's to the current airshow pilots and approved A/C and the low flying to the current AG pilots.
I wonder if the pilot had the brains to think what might happen in the case of a bird strike? The results could well have been fatal.
Don't do it as it just ain't worth it.
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Originally Posted by Woof etc
...Boeing 707 was rolled over Chicago - aaah yes, those were the days. Needless to say the test pilot was called in for cup of tea and a chat...
By the way...James passed away last month, at a ripe old age. RIP.
When Tex was asked the next work-day by the-then Boeing President just what the hell he was doing, he answered "Sellin' airplanes, sir!"
It must have been one heck of a sight to see in person! ...here is the video of it (long download...be warned):
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...707%20Roll.mpg
Cheers,
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For the 1900 video, safe or not, it was a dang cool video. If your a pilot and like flying airplanes, how could you not get a little excited watching them do that? Nice video.
I think ive got a ferry flight today, I wonder if I can roll my Dash-8? Anyone ever tried it? Ill bring my video camera along, just in case.
I think ive got a ferry flight today, I wonder if I can roll my Dash-8? Anyone ever tried it? Ill bring my video camera along, just in case.
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Originally Posted by DHC8-FO
For the 1900 video, safe or not, it was a dang cool video. If your a pilot and like flying airplanes, how could you not get a little excited watching them do that? Nice video.
I think ive got a ferry flight today, I wonder if I can roll my Dash-8? Anyone ever tried it? Ill bring my video camera along, just in case.
I think ive got a ferry flight today, I wonder if I can roll my Dash-8? Anyone ever tried it? Ill bring my video camera along, just in case.
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Originally Posted by FCS Explorer
true words, man. if the hottest piece of action you can get on your job is a visual with a 3NM final then a barrel roll is dream stuff. sometimes i wonder if i could leave FL370 top gun style: rolling in to some 120° of bank and .....
Theres no reason why you couldnt do that, the question comes can you recover in time? Yea the most exciting our job gets here is flying into some shorter airports on occassion, if we get bored, we just turn on the radar and fly into the red stuff, makes it a little more exciting on those slow days. Ha. You can have some fun on a dash-8-200, empty, ferry flight. Almost makes us feel like were flying a jet for a few minutes.
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Maybe the right hand side of the runway was to be avoided for some reason?
You can see the windscreen getting more and more dirty the more bugs are smashed...lucky one wasn't a vulture
Aeros into the sun? Antonio...
You can see the windscreen getting more and more dirty the more bugs are smashed...lucky one wasn't a vulture
Aeros into the sun? Antonio...
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Originally Posted by FCS Explorer
recovering?
a) the airplane - should be possible.
b) career in commercial aviation - ???
a) the airplane - should be possible.
b) career in commercial aviation - ???
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The barrel role is aerobatic, the B1900 is not!! irrespective of the G's pulled, that aircraft should not be rolled, it was not designed no certified for it, when will people learn??
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Originally Posted by B200Drvr
The barrel role is aerobatic, the B1900 is not!! irrespective of the G's pulled, that aircraft should not be rolled, it was not designed no certified for it, when will people learn??
