Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > African Aviation
Reload this Page >

Kruger Mpumalanga (FAKN)

Wikiposts
Search
African Aviation Regional issues that affect the numerous pilots who work in this area of the world.

Kruger Mpumalanga (FAKN)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Jul 2003, 16:31
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Africa
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs down Kruger Mpumalanga (FAKN)

Heard from a pilot the new Kruger Mpumalanga have some of the most unfriendly personnel in the aviation business. Apart from them closing at 19h00 which means you cannot get out if you try!, it seems South Africa is going the same way the old Jan Smuts went some years ago when a well known aviation magazine voted them the most unfriendly in the world.

Anyone had a similar experience?
Sayagain...? is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2003, 17:53
  #2 (permalink)  
Registered User *
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Not here anymore
Age: 63
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sayagain, maybe they are smiling, they just forgot to tell their faces about it....

I reckon your friend is quite right. I know Mparalanga means the place where the sun rises from...or something like that...but the crowd at KMIA thinks their airport IS the place the sun comes from.....

I've also heard that the amount of aircraft parked on the ramp at any one time is not what the business plan projected...oops.

Last edited by BAKELA; 15th Jul 2003 at 18:24.
BAKELA is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2003, 21:31
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Africa
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FAKN

I was going Nairobi to Durban recently in a King Air 200. One of the options was to route Nairobi and then to Kruger as a point of entry and refuelling. Winds finally took care of that option as the leg really is quite marginal. However i am VERY glad that I did not persevere as I would have firstly arrived at about 19h30 and secondly I was keen to see the "new friendly airport!"

Management must take heed when attitudes like that abound. I am sure that the majority of aircraft visiting will be the smaller turboprops etc and not the huge Boeing types. The smaller aircraft will just continue to go to good old Nelspruit if they do not need a point of entry. Bye bye business!
Sir Cumference is offline  
Old 18th Jul 2003, 06:33
  #4 (permalink)  
GGG
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: South Africa,Jhb
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs down Have to agree!

Flew there the other day in a baron for buisiness. Firstly place looks nice but not R300 million nice, which is what I was told it cost to build. then got into huge argument with just about every staff member on the apron when they told me that I had to go to international arrivals and clear customs,while I was trying to tell them that I just flew over Swaziland from Richards Bay and did not take off from there, until I could prove the flight plan to them. As for the apron traffic, we were one of two a/c on it. Definitely wont be flying there in a hurry.
GGG is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2003, 00:05
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Africa
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Concern over safety....

It was also mentioned that IF might be a nightmare there with all the granite hills all over the place. Maybe I can get the pilot that mentioned his concern to join this forum....
Sayagain...? is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2003, 02:59
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 'Mampara' langa, ZA
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question

Sad truth is that there are some good people there who were forced to move across from the FANS. The real nobscone in charge of the whole place is an arrogant american who thinks he really does own the place. On my very first trip there on day two of the airports existence I received huge verbal abuse from this character: I was walking across the apron to the control tower without a safety vest????
He was oblivious to the fact that we had brought the ATC's across from the old airport to see if the control tower was ready.
We were the only two aircraft (Piper Cruisers) on the whole airport.
Next time you buy a ticket to there, check the taxes; seems like they have their own special tax, something to do with uplifting the local community. The only uplifting going on is parts of the airport fence when the sun goes down.......
The upside is that the old airport is still going and the people there are as friendly as before
Tokoloshe is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2003, 15:50
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Somewhere South of the Limpopo
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Agree with above...

Went there the other day in a "little" C182...

If they could have parked me any further away from anywhere they would have...

Me, not going there again - Nelspruit still welcomes the "little people".
Rhodie is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2003, 16:02
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Africa
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FAKN

Sad thing is that the 'clowns' running this airport most probably think that they are doing a great job! They must realise that they are never going to have three and four wide bodies on finals at one time and that they must look after the little guys. These little guys are going to be their bread and butter. For me, good old Nelspruit and as mentioned elsewhere on this thread, their friendly welcome.
Sir Cumference is offline  
Old 24th Jul 2003, 06:04
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South Africa or some dump
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Devil IF

Did a checkride for a pilot in a 206. He battled with the procedure.

Would not like to do it in a 737. (like I see Nationwide is now doing)

rags is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.