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Old 29th Sep 2002, 12:59
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ATP Paper Question

Greetings All,

I hope some of you can assist me with an answer. I am traversing the journey from Comm to ATP but am still intertwined with the subject-theory. I am working through some ATP papers at the moment before tackling the exams. As we all know the CAA has her peculiar way of phrasing questions and I came across one which I need help with.

The question deals with time and asks for the latest time an aircraft can depart point A to land at point B at "LAST LIGHT". There are tables for extracting Evening Civil Twilight and also one for Sunset. Does the question refer to ECT or Sunset?

I figured it would make some difference so I'd like to make sure instead of going the assumption route...

Thanks to anyone who can help out here.
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Old 29th Sep 2002, 22:19
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Remember the definition of "the end of daylight" which is "30minutes after sunset".
Civil twilight is a term I thought was for sailors. Pilots use day and night.
Good Luck.
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Hi Skyvan,

As I understand, the 30 minutes before and after sunrise is used to differentiate between logging night and day time.

Thanks anyway
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If my memory serves me well; I believe that the point made by skyvan is correct.
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Yeah, agree with the above 3.

In the "real world" last light means 30 minutes after sunset. And from what I remember, that's also what dear old aunty CAA means in her somewhat fractured exam-English.

Good luck with the exams.
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Thanks for the help guys. I figured that the CAA refers to "last light" as official sunset. That's the only way the answers on mock papers work out. So even though I now know what "last light" in the real world means, I'll stick to sunset = last light for the papers.

All help appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
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