What do you know about Kabo?
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What do you know about Kabo?
What is known about Kabo Air? Are they hiring? Do they pay? What do they pay F/E's? Do they have anything going besides the Hadj? Thanks in abvance.
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operating? no, perhaps a few internal Nigeria flights from time to time, but nothing of consequence.
but even if they were, why!!!?? wouldyou want to work there?
try
JAL,
Air Hong Kong
ANI
Polar
Atlas
Evergreen
AAI
EAC
Air Pacific
Dragon Air
or maybe Burgur king, before Kabo
but even if they were, why!!!?? wouldyou want to work there?
try
JAL,
Air Hong Kong
ANI
Polar
Atlas
Evergreen
AAI
EAC
Air Pacific
Dragon Air
or maybe Burgur king, before Kabo
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They don't seem very interested in "sponsoring" their flight crews. They hire people to fly airplanes but it stops right there. Your licence expires in 3 days or you should have a sim check next month ? It's time to take your wallet out of your pocket then !
Apart from the Haj, there's not much going on.
I don't know anything about your experience or career so far, but if you've never been to Africa Nigeria is the probably one of the worst places to discover it. Everything is non-normal operation, well below US standards, and it's quite the jungle out there.
Apart from the Haj, there's not much going on.
I don't know anything about your experience or career so far, but if you've never been to Africa Nigeria is the probably one of the worst places to discover it. Everything is non-normal operation, well below US standards, and it's quite the jungle out there.
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Would have to echo the sentiments above.....rather than 'diss' any particular operator (remember Danny's warnings!!) it is the whole situation out there that is of concern.
As an engineer, working in Nigeria you would be expected to forget everything you've ever been taught was right and proper. I myself have not been there, and never wish to - but I have had to deal with a whole host of airlines in that region; none of them were particularly desirable, to put it mildly.
If you're deperate, then go out there and find out....but you would need to be desperate. Sorry not to be able to raise your hopes.
As an engineer, working in Nigeria you would be expected to forget everything you've ever been taught was right and proper. I myself have not been there, and never wish to - but I have had to deal with a whole host of airlines in that region; none of them were particularly desirable, to put it mildly.
If you're deperate, then go out there and find out....but you would need to be desperate. Sorry not to be able to raise your hopes.
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When was the last time you all where in Nigeria or should I say Have any of you been to Nigeria!
Hmmm I think I know your reply to that one!!
I live in Nigeria I fly out of Port Harcourt (PHC) and have first hand info and knowledge about the aviation sector here, the man asked for information on Kabo Air and all he gets is no no no no no and stay away or something like you are taking a BIG risk from some fellow who has never been
Though I can not really blame you all for your negative replies about Nigeria and Kabo Air, Nigeria and its aviation industry is on course for a new dawn and when that morning breaks the jobs in the aviation industry will be looking very bright believe me.
So give Nigeria a break please and let us do our work down here without any of this BTD kind of talk, as for Burger King before us well thats not surprising with your BIG MOUTH BANTER
Zazoo
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Let it all rain down on me
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Hmmm I think I know your reply to that one!!
I live in Nigeria I fly out of Port Harcourt (PHC) and have first hand info and knowledge about the aviation sector here, the man asked for information on Kabo Air and all he gets is no no no no no and stay away or something like you are taking a BIG risk from some fellow who has never been
Though I can not really blame you all for your negative replies about Nigeria and Kabo Air, Nigeria and its aviation industry is on course for a new dawn and when that morning breaks the jobs in the aviation industry will be looking very bright believe me.
So give Nigeria a break please and let us do our work down here without any of this BTD kind of talk, as for Burger King before us well thats not surprising with your BIG MOUTH BANTER
Zazoo
And now as usual bring on the heat
Let it all rain down on me
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ZAZOO; we can only speak from our own experiences - I don't have the benefit of your outlook. All I can say is good luck; Nigeria has a wealth of opportunity, if it can only be properly developed. There has just been too much corruption in the past, and so many people have been exploited, and lost vast sums of money.
If there is a fundamental change on the way, that's all to the good. But you can't blame those of us who have experienced the bad side for being sceptical.
I hope that you have a happy and safe career in Nigeria.
If there is a fundamental change on the way, that's all to the good. But you can't blame those of us who have experienced the bad side for being sceptical.
I hope that you have a happy and safe career in Nigeria.
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Nopax, thanxs and about the corruption thing well its everywhere dont you think so...... I mean look at the US and Europe and the latest financial scandals that have been exposed could anyone have believed that such huge scams have been going on, NEVER 
most of the leaders we have had in this part of the world that perpetuated and allowed such utter rubbish to go on here got the backing of most of your governments ... phew lets not start that here
But what can I say it does not change your perception on us does it
most people who have been scammed here in Nigeria where themselves involved in shaddy deals with their Nigerian friends or partners as the case may be, and that is the case almost all the time ( Believe it ) and when the whole thing falls apart all you hear is I have been duped... phew yeah heard that one before and they run to their embassies to tell the world
I am having a happy career so far and look forward to the changes already going on, it won't be soon but we will get there and if am lucky will be right here doing what I do best.
Have a nice Evening
Regards
Zazoo:
most of the leaders we have had in this part of the world that perpetuated and allowed such utter rubbish to go on here got the backing of most of your governments ... phew lets not start that hereBut what can I say it does not change your perception on us does it
most people who have been scammed here in Nigeria where themselves involved in shaddy deals with their Nigerian friends or partners as the case may be, and that is the case almost all the time ( Believe it ) and when the whole thing falls apart all you hear is I have been duped... phew yeah heard that one before and they run to their embassies to tell the world I am having a happy career so far and look forward to the changes already going on, it won't be soon but we will get there and if am lucky will be right here doing what I do best.
Have a nice Evening
Regards
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Of course you're right, ZAZOO; anyone can be tempted when there are rich pickings to be had - some of the characters here in Europe who have "invested" in Nigeria over the years have been most unsavoury and deserved all they got; equally, there have been reputable companies that have been fleeced. I'm not going to name them for obvious reasons.
Just to reiterate that the country as a whole has got itself a reputation now, not just in Aviation, and although there is a willingness to get in there and make money (because that's why we're here, after all!) only the very naive would do business on anything other than a cash in advance basis.
I wish you no bad feelings, just tellin' it like it is.
Just to reiterate that the country as a whole has got itself a reputation now, not just in Aviation, and although there is a willingness to get in there and make money (because that's why we're here, after all!) only the very naive would do business on anything other than a cash in advance basis.
I wish you no bad feelings, just tellin' it like it is.
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nopax, you're quite right, nigeria's current reputation is as a result of the shaddy dealings that had gone on in the past. I believe as time goes on, it will gradually shake off that reputation.
Regarding Kabo, it is not a bad company to work for. They have no "normal" schedule and most do hajj flights. After the death of Alhaji Kabo, things have been a bit slow. Current management is trying to get the ball rolling again. Salaries can be abit slow in coming, but you will surely receive it.
during the operation, you will spend most of your time in jeddah and when in nigeria, your base will be in kano.
It is worth giving it a try, particularly since the industry is slow at the moment.
Cheers
Regarding Kabo, it is not a bad company to work for. They have no "normal" schedule and most do hajj flights. After the death of Alhaji Kabo, things have been a bit slow. Current management is trying to get the ball rolling again. Salaries can be abit slow in coming, but you will surely receive it.
during the operation, you will spend most of your time in jeddah and when in nigeria, your base will be in kano.
It is worth giving it a try, particularly since the industry is slow at the moment.
Cheers
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Are Kabo the same comedians who run Kabo Air Cargo?
I have still got a 1994 issue of "Pilot" magazine that contains an article about a Kabo Air Cargo 707 that made a successful landing after two of it's starboard engines fell off in turbulance over the alps! Not only that, the leading edge caught fire!
Hh, Hmm....anyway...
I have still got a 1994 issue of "Pilot" magazine that contains an article about a Kabo Air Cargo 707 that made a successful landing after two of it's starboard engines fell off in turbulance over the alps! Not only that, the leading edge caught fire!
Hh, Hmm....anyway...
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I suppose so and they made it back down too hhmmm......
actually your quite right I remember that incident very well now, happened about the same time another comedian shut down his remaining operational engine on final to some london airport after an engine failure, he ended up on some freeway M something sad that one was.
hhmmm comedians
Zazoo
actually your quite right I remember that incident very well now, happened about the same time another comedian shut down his remaining operational engine on final to some london airport after an engine failure, he ended up on some freeway M something sad that one was.
hhmmm comedians
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The Kabo 707 accident is reported here;
http://www.bea-fr.org/anglaise/rapports/rap.htm
Select Boeing 707 from the pull-down menu. Sorry it's in French, but if you scroll down to "Annexe 1" you'll get the radio transmissions. IMHO, the crew did a fantastic job in getting her down at all - it's scary just to read it!
http://www.bea-fr.org/anglaise/rapports/rap.htm
Select Boeing 707 from the pull-down menu. Sorry it's in French, but if you scroll down to "Annexe 1" you'll get the radio transmissions. IMHO, the crew did a fantastic job in getting her down at all - it's scary just to read it!
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"when was the last time you all were in Nigeria, or should I say have any of you been to Nigeria?"
" Hmmm I think I know your reply to that one."
Well Zazoo, thanks for being presumptious, but yes I have been to Nigera, many many times, in fact the last time was 4 days ago! So I believe I am familiar with the current state of ATC and aviation there.
I have flown into Lome, Lagos, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Abuja, and Kano over the years, and sorry but it does not match the rosy picture you paint mate!
ATC in Nigeria is at best confusingly weak, and at worst dangerous.
Many pilots will agree, as we have discussed it over the years, including other pilots from BA, Virgin, DHL, KLM, Air France, MK, AAI, and Anglo A, the opinions are all about the same, it is not a particularily safe envinronment to operate in.
It is the accepted opinion that any "radar vector" given by Nigerian ATC should be treated as suspicious, accepted only if it can be backed up with raw data info, and TCAS awareness, as well the safe procedure many times is to do the full procedure.
Weather information is generally either hopelessly out of date, or just plain incorrect, and the practice of giving clouds in meters is also questionable as the actual rarely matches the met info.
The airports themselves are hopelessly lacking in fire protection, and having once actually needed to call it as a precaution, incapable of even leaving the bay and driving to the runway!!, ( thankfully it was not required)
Why do you think that 126.90 is such an important freq. in Africa and Nigeria,? I never feel the need to broadcast on this leaving LHR!
Over Nigeria you have to be very diligent, and in particular on descent and arrivals, with controllers more interested in your registration that where you are.
So, Zazoo, yes I have been there, many many times, and this "bright new future" of aviation that you say is coming? well I see none of it, in fact over the years I have see no changes, just the same marginal controllers, poorly kept airports, and useless radio equipment.
Perhaps if you cannot see this you need to get out a bit more!
" Hmmm I think I know your reply to that one."
Well Zazoo, thanks for being presumptious, but yes I have been to Nigera, many many times, in fact the last time was 4 days ago! So I believe I am familiar with the current state of ATC and aviation there.
I have flown into Lome, Lagos, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Abuja, and Kano over the years, and sorry but it does not match the rosy picture you paint mate!
ATC in Nigeria is at best confusingly weak, and at worst dangerous.
Many pilots will agree, as we have discussed it over the years, including other pilots from BA, Virgin, DHL, KLM, Air France, MK, AAI, and Anglo A, the opinions are all about the same, it is not a particularily safe envinronment to operate in.
It is the accepted opinion that any "radar vector" given by Nigerian ATC should be treated as suspicious, accepted only if it can be backed up with raw data info, and TCAS awareness, as well the safe procedure many times is to do the full procedure.
Weather information is generally either hopelessly out of date, or just plain incorrect, and the practice of giving clouds in meters is also questionable as the actual rarely matches the met info.
The airports themselves are hopelessly lacking in fire protection, and having once actually needed to call it as a precaution, incapable of even leaving the bay and driving to the runway!!, ( thankfully it was not required)
Why do you think that 126.90 is such an important freq. in Africa and Nigeria,? I never feel the need to broadcast on this leaving LHR!
Over Nigeria you have to be very diligent, and in particular on descent and arrivals, with controllers more interested in your registration that where you are.
So, Zazoo, yes I have been there, many many times, and this "bright new future" of aviation that you say is coming? well I see none of it, in fact over the years I have see no changes, just the same marginal controllers, poorly kept airports, and useless radio equipment.
Perhaps if you cannot see this you need to get out a bit more!
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Neat website Nopax thanx for that .
Canadair thankyou points and concerns well noted oh and by the way Lome not in Nigeria, nice airport though.
I got a feeling you with MK
Regards
Zazoo
Canadair thankyou points and concerns well noted oh and by the way Lome not in Nigeria, nice airport though.
I got a feeling you with MK
Regards
Zazoo
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Well let's start with Mr. Dan Kabo, the owner, died at least 6-8 months ago...
The aircraft and operations are a joke...dont think they'll even make Hajj next year...
If you want to fly aircraft with AD's overdue, reconfig-ed to 400+ seats with only PSU's for the original 320 pax. then this is the place for you...
The aircraft and operations are a joke...dont think they'll even make Hajj next year...
If you want to fly aircraft with AD's overdue, reconfig-ed to 400+ seats with only PSU's for the original 320 pax. then this is the place for you...
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I just left Nigeria yesterday, hopefully, never to return!!
I understand the prior concerns, and confirm them, once your rego is supplied, the job is done!
I've never heard so many 'standbys' on the radio in my life before, together with long silent periods when inflight clearances are requested, so we make sure we get our landing clearance well in advance!
We had a fuel spill there, whilst refuelling, and called the fire service to clear the spill.
They took about 25 mins to get there, but thats no problem, its not an emergency, but you just had to be there to see the antics when they tried to start the water flowing.
The Three Stooges show would have been proud of that one!
Oh yes, and the day we arrived at the airplane, to depart, only an hour late, quite normal really, (the airport transport bus is never on time), to find that the passengers had boarded themselves, all 320 of them, since there was no security people or locked doors to stop them!
Needless to say that we had them all removed, and the aircraft extensively searched, by our own people, since there's are known for their..........er, relaxed approach to everything!
And many, many other things, way to numeruos to mention now!
Very glad to be out of there!!!!
Cheers
I understand the prior concerns, and confirm them, once your rego is supplied, the job is done!
I've never heard so many 'standbys' on the radio in my life before, together with long silent periods when inflight clearances are requested, so we make sure we get our landing clearance well in advance!
We had a fuel spill there, whilst refuelling, and called the fire service to clear the spill.
They took about 25 mins to get there, but thats no problem, its not an emergency, but you just had to be there to see the antics when they tried to start the water flowing.
The Three Stooges show would have been proud of that one!
Oh yes, and the day we arrived at the airplane, to depart, only an hour late, quite normal really, (the airport transport bus is never on time), to find that the passengers had boarded themselves, all 320 of them, since there was no security people or locked doors to stop them!
Needless to say that we had them all removed, and the aircraft extensively searched, by our own people, since there's are known for their..........er, relaxed approach to everything!
And many, many other things, way to numeruos to mention now!
Very glad to be out of there!!!!
Cheers
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I think "flight detent" and "canadair" hit the nail on the head. As a nigerian who has had the priviledge of flying in other parts of the world, I wonder at times if we think we have a special insight on aviation. There are people who know what to do and are willing to act, but the nonentities always seem to hold sway.
I pray that one of this days the right people will have the opportunity to lead the industry. As long as these nonstarters continue to run things, it will continue to be one step forward, 5 steps backward.
Regarding Kabo, they are preparing for the umrah and hajj ops. The fact of the matter is how successful will they be without dan kabo himself. Even when he was alive, things were very shaky.
I pray that one of this days the right people will have the opportunity to lead the industry. As long as these nonstarters continue to run things, it will continue to be one step forward, 5 steps backward.
Regarding Kabo, they are preparing for the umrah and hajj ops. The fact of the matter is how successful will they be without dan kabo himself. Even when he was alive, things were very shaky.