cheapest and safest place for a cpl in africa
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Hi am looking to a safe and cheap flight school in sa. Can any one recommend me and give me an estimate of a cpl? Thank you
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Hi Flyboy583
Thank you for the information. I will go through as you mentioned. On another note, will a frozen atpl with a type rating guarantee me a job or will a cpl with mecir be good enough to struggle with?
Thank you for the information. I will go through as you mentioned. On another note, will a frozen atpl with a type rating guarantee me a job or will a cpl with mecir be good enough to struggle with?
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A TR with zero hrs on it is useless unless you want to join P2F guys which will be an EPIC FAIL! You better off getting a caravan endorsement after your studies and build hrs through bush piloting or charter.
All the best lad.
All the best lad.
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So here is what you do.
The rationale here is that training is more important than experience and safety the highest valued consideration of all. Instead of a quickie two hour conversion, you'll undertake a ten hour conversion onto a more complex single and at least a twenty hour one onto a basic twin.
Once you've done that thoroughly and studied the manuals exhaustively, you'll probably be a better trained pilot than most guys with 200/500 hours on the same aircraft. They after all will have done nothing other than, quite likely, a slipshod conversion and then gained some experience, having managed to stay alive with their passengers during the hours they flew to get it. You, on the other hand, will be a sharp and well trained aviator on type.
Then push off to the States and drop into the local FAA office where they'll just about give you a PPL across the counter, allowing you to fly as a tourist in the USA. The idea of course is not to fly in the US at all, simply to acquire the documentation to enable you to have done so had you wished.
It helps if your in a big open state like Montana or Wyoming for what you do now is to drive around a few airfields out in the countryside and just collect the N numbers of a handful of the same aircraft you trained on.
Armed with these, a chart, diary and log book, you sit down and forge a whole load of cross country trips and flight hours into your logbook which you flew while working unpaid as a freelance photographic pilot for unnamed and untraceable clients in the US.
On return to South Africa you target the first company that uses P2F and present yourself as a relatively experienced pilot with hours spent bush flying in the USA.
The hours in your logbook are virtually untraceable although the registrations themselves can be checked up on and of course, you have the photographs of the machines at their airfields to show that at least you were there.
Do a little brush up before you try to sell yourself so that if you're offered a test flight you'll fly brilliantly and the job may well be yours. You may also, of course, have found yourself a job in the US while you're there for you will be well trained on type from the start.
Just desserts on gouging companies acts as a suitable moral justification for such a course of action. Qualms about the validity of passenger insurance while flying with a pilot who is in fact less experienced than his logbook indicates can be calmed by the thought that, with all the extra training you've done, your a far better and steadier man than the little quivery P2F who can't distinguish the sound of a bird strike from a bullet.
I'm at the Hauptbahnhoff in Vienna on my way to Vladivostok to shoot Siberian tigers. Let us know how you get on. Like tiger shooting with President Putin, the log book route I suggest is slightly dangerous in its execution but excellently rewarding in its fulfilment.
The rationale here is that training is more important than experience and safety the highest valued consideration of all. Instead of a quickie two hour conversion, you'll undertake a ten hour conversion onto a more complex single and at least a twenty hour one onto a basic twin.
Once you've done that thoroughly and studied the manuals exhaustively, you'll probably be a better trained pilot than most guys with 200/500 hours on the same aircraft. They after all will have done nothing other than, quite likely, a slipshod conversion and then gained some experience, having managed to stay alive with their passengers during the hours they flew to get it. You, on the other hand, will be a sharp and well trained aviator on type.
Then push off to the States and drop into the local FAA office where they'll just about give you a PPL across the counter, allowing you to fly as a tourist in the USA. The idea of course is not to fly in the US at all, simply to acquire the documentation to enable you to have done so had you wished.
It helps if your in a big open state like Montana or Wyoming for what you do now is to drive around a few airfields out in the countryside and just collect the N numbers of a handful of the same aircraft you trained on.
Armed with these, a chart, diary and log book, you sit down and forge a whole load of cross country trips and flight hours into your logbook which you flew while working unpaid as a freelance photographic pilot for unnamed and untraceable clients in the US.
On return to South Africa you target the first company that uses P2F and present yourself as a relatively experienced pilot with hours spent bush flying in the USA.
The hours in your logbook are virtually untraceable although the registrations themselves can be checked up on and of course, you have the photographs of the machines at their airfields to show that at least you were there.
Do a little brush up before you try to sell yourself so that if you're offered a test flight you'll fly brilliantly and the job may well be yours. You may also, of course, have found yourself a job in the US while you're there for you will be well trained on type from the start.
Just desserts on gouging companies acts as a suitable moral justification for such a course of action. Qualms about the validity of passenger insurance while flying with a pilot who is in fact less experienced than his logbook indicates can be calmed by the thought that, with all the extra training you've done, your a far better and steadier man than the little quivery P2F who can't distinguish the sound of a bird strike from a bullet.
I'm at the Hauptbahnhoff in Vienna on my way to Vladivostok to shoot Siberian tigers. Let us know how you get on. Like tiger shooting with President Putin, the log book route I suggest is slightly dangerous in its execution but excellently rewarding in its fulfilment.
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Está servira ... !!
Enjoy the tiger shoot!
(Bit of a 'cat fight' though, one cat against another. Hope you're quicker!)
Enjoy the tiger shoot!
(Bit of a 'cat fight' though, one cat against another. Hope you're quicker!)
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The art of deceptive hunting lies in the deliberate confusion caused by doing what cats do naturally to the territorial borders of others.
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Airlinedream email Flight Training College in George. Flight Training South Africa Pilot Training Garden Route
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Thank you negus i appreciate your contribution and currently emailing the school. On another note, to everyone who hold SA licences, is it easy to get a job elsewhere(in another country) with that licence? Or will you have to do any conversions, which if needed, what options would work out cheapest while doing the CPL? I have come across some posts where a few people said its best to drop ATPL in SA and rather do it while converting to a JAA. Is that still the right way?
