1time pilots salaries

[kykweer]

Apparently pilots got notified that they will only be receiving 50% of their salary this month. That's terrible!

[Duffb]

The begining of the end?

[Artrides]

The beginning of the end has long since come and gone. What we are looking at is either the beginning of drastic change of the company's structure in order for it to survive, or the actual bankruptcy and liquidation of it.

I really hope that through some miracle it manages to pull through, but even if it does survive it will look much different when the process is finished: many will lose their jobs.

The cold hard facts speak differently: an airline cannot stay solvent on happy thoughts and cameraderie alone. It needs cash, and quickly.

[Ghost_Rider737]

Can someone from 1time actually confirm the above ?

[Artrides]

I have friends who work there, and they were paid yesterday only 50% of their gross basic.

[skywalker001]

What we are looking at is either the beginning of drastic change of the company's structure in order for it to survive, or the actual bankruptcy and liquidation of it.

Although pessimistic, I highly doubt it's the former. Lets face it, 50% of all crews' salaries for the month of September will hardly make a dent in the debt incurred by the airline (almost R500m). By process of elimination I think this is probably the beginning of liquidation.

[Artrides]

I fear that you are quite correct. Pulling through something like this almost exclusively happens only in Hollywood movies: you can't expect a business rescue practitioner to miraculously multiply 3 fish and 5 loaves into a feast to feed the masses...

[Ghost_Rider737]

I hope we don't see the demise of 1time......South Africa cannot afford to lose another airline.....

[starliner]

1time

i guess saa and mango will be celebrating around a fire tonight

[Artrides]

As much as SAA can take the blame for this due to their uncompetitive practices, one mustn't lose sight of the fact that if the previous management at 1time hadn't effectively raped, ravaged, and pillaged the company to a carcass, it wouldn't be in the dwang in the first place.

No, Rodney James, Michael Snyman, Michael Kaminski and Glen Orsmond deserve most of the blame here.

[kykweer]

I heard that they are going to retrench quite a few pilot. The strange part is, they are trying to withold salaries from pilots resigning giving only a months notice in stead of two months. This after only paying them only 50% of their salaries. Of course they can get away with murder since most of their pilots are employed via Amico (labour broker). How do you plan to keep loyal pilots if you're into these games? I suppose its still the same henchmen running their flight ops. Shame on you 1time. I thought you progressed beyond these practises of exploiting your staff.

[fly nice]

starliner

i guess saa and mango will be celebrating around a fire tonight

That's sick bud! These guys have families and obligations. Perhaps that's how you would think, but don't assume to label others by your standards.

[TheManPartOne]

I hope that's not the case. If so you'll probably see the guys give 24hour notice. If the 50% salary is true it will be considered breach of contract unless the employees agreed and signed for it in advance. Thats all contracts off the table... Mass exit imminent, which will at least avoid retrenchments for now.

[revertedrubber]

Majority of pilots work for Amico as stated above and hence are only contracted to 1Time. That means that 1Time has the upper hand over the pilots and can do what they want. Good luck guys

[kykweer]

Is it only the pilot's salaries or all employees? I believe the Jetworx engineers have been on 50% salary for 3 months already. Its hearsay so maybe somebody can confirm it? If the office workers are also only getting 50% salary, do they still have to work a full day? Sad state of affairs.

[fly1981]

This is going to get messy. Fact of the matter is, amico or not, in history airlines in this position tend to do what they like regardless, speak to ex air Atlanta guys.....(before I get shot down, I understand it's a different country, which there for has different labour laws) in a senario like this, they aim to reduce costs as much as possible. If I was one of the high earning senior pilots, I would be weary, only advice, get alpa on standby, although not going to help much, it's some help! From what I understand, it's the whole company, right from the bottom to the top.

[kykweer]

I think if you're on the Amico Trust system, ALPA will not be of much help. I think if you battle to pay salaries, you obviously don't have money for a lot of other day to day operational expenses.

[Tableview]

The demise of an airline really benefits nobody. Sadly the type of negativity displayed here, particularly when it really gets into the public domain, becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I've booked a couple of SA domestic flights for later this month. Guess which carrier they're not on. Sad but realistic.

[Ghost_Rider737]

I know that SAA interviewed a few 1 time guys recently. Has anyone got the nod ?

When Nationwide was about to go bust SAA "rescued" about 15 of their pilots...back in 2008

[glorybusdriver]

Yes 2 1Time pilots got the nod from SAA.