Nigeria bans old aircraft
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Nigeria bans old aircraft
Bad news for freight dogs Nigerias Federal Executive Council has dictated that any aircraft over 20 years old will not be allowed to fly in its airspace or be imported into the country.
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Nigerias Federal Executive Council has dictated that any aircraft over 20 years old will not be allowed to fly in its airspace
Why move this to African Aviation? I would not have seen it there.
It is of interest to any one who may fly to, or over, Nigeria.
In my company we often get rumours about our 25+ year old A/C going on the Lagos route. At the moment it's the new 767s and as far as I am concerned, they are welcome to it.
It is of interest to any one who may fly to, or over, Nigeria.
In my company we often get rumours about our 25+ year old A/C going on the Lagos route. At the moment it's the new 767s and as far as I am concerned, they are welcome to it.
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Well if that is the case it will be the end of any air cargo getting in Nigeria. Seems like a bit of an own goal seeing Allied Air (with their 727's) is one of the few Nigerian success stories in the air.
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Now this seems like something that the principles at Arik might lobby / buy from their "elected" representatives.
Underhanded, and slimy. Might even be effective for the demise of Arik competition.
Underhanded, and slimy. Might even be effective for the demise of Arik competition.
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I wonder if they have any idea what this really means.
I googled it, and found what looks like an actual article at
allAfrica.com: Nigeria: FG Bans Over-Aged Aircraft
and according to that, the ban is on ANY aircraft over 20 years old IN NIGERIAN AIRSPACE
So, can't fly over even.
But from what I've read, more than 2/3 of commercial aircraft and more than 80% of ga aircraft are over 20 years old worldwide.
This won't shut down just one airline, or just cargo, it will shut down aviation in Nigeria, completely.
do they think that airlines will all of a sudden decide that they'll only use their newest planes to fly in/out/over Nigeria?
I googled it, and found what looks like an actual article at
allAfrica.com: Nigeria: FG Bans Over-Aged Aircraft
and according to that, the ban is on ANY aircraft over 20 years old IN NIGERIAN AIRSPACE
So, can't fly over even.
But from what I've read, more than 2/3 of commercial aircraft and more than 80% of ga aircraft are over 20 years old worldwide.
This won't shut down just one airline, or just cargo, it will shut down aviation in Nigeria, completely.
do they think that airlines will all of a sudden decide that they'll only use their newest planes to fly in/out/over Nigeria?
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Old a/c in Nigeria: substance,not shadows,stupid
Just like Nigerian pols to pursue peripherals like aircraft age while ignoring the shameful corruption at the oversight agencies, gross inefficiency at the airports and chronic manpower shortages. Standing joke in the community just now is that the aviation minister, who's said to be a pharmacist, {naturally}recommends expiry dates for aircraft, just as she would, for drugs
Can't remember when last an actual aviation related individual was in that position, anyway that classical Nigeria, square pegs in triangular holes. Maybe us Pilots should join politics to ...
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I think everyone has got it wrong.The ban strictly affects any aircraft older than 20years been registered 5N,and those foreign registered under a Nigerian AOC.Technically BA can fly a 40 year old aircraft into Nigerian airspace,but cant lease that aircraft to a nigerian carrier.Allied air can continue flying their 20year plus cargo 727,because as of the time of registration they where under 20 years.Thats my understanding.And trust me,its is been ENFORCED.
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Localiser established please crosscheck your facts,the following aircraft were delivered to DANA a few mths/years back,which means they were delivered before the 20year limit.
Besides you should know that the MD started deliveries in the early 80's.So it did not exist in 1976.
Now my challenge to you is to prove me WRONG,on ANY aircraft over 20 years registered 5N in recent times.
5N-SAI Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83 - cn 53018 / ln 1779
Airframe Details
Construction Number 53018
Line Number 1779
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Date of Manufactur 10-1990
Age 20.3 Years
Airframe Status Active
5N-RAM Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83 - cn 53019 / ln 1783
Airframe Details
Construction Number 53019
Line Number 1783
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Date of Manufactur 10-1990
Age 20.3 Years
Airframe Status Active
5N-SRI Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83 - cn 53020 / ln 1789
Airframe Details
Construction Number 53020
Line Number 1789
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Date of Manufactur 11-1990
Age 20.2 Years
Airframe Status Active
Besides you should know that the MD started deliveries in the early 80's.So it did not exist in 1976.
Now my challenge to you is to prove me WRONG,on ANY aircraft over 20 years registered 5N in recent times.
5N-SAI Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83 - cn 53018 / ln 1779
Airframe Details
Construction Number 53018
Line Number 1779
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Date of Manufactur 10-1990
Age 20.3 Years
Airframe Status Active
5N-RAM Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83 - cn 53019 / ln 1783
Airframe Details
Construction Number 53019
Line Number 1783
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Date of Manufactur 10-1990
Age 20.3 Years
Airframe Status Active
5N-SRI Dana Air McDonnell Douglas MD-83 - cn 53020 / ln 1789
Airframe Details
Construction Number 53020
Line Number 1789
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas MD-83
Date of Manufactur 11-1990
Age 20.2 Years
Airframe Status Active
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My Bad
My error. I didn't have any facts there. I just took some flightdeck jokes too literally. Thanks for proving they were not made in 1976. At the same time, I'll take up your challenge and try to present some facts too (from your source).
5N-ASG (Parked in Kano)
Construction Number: 23436
Line Number: 163
Aircraft Type: Boeing 767-332
First Flight: 27-01-1987
Age: 24 Years
Airframe Status: Active
Delivered: 01-07-2010
5N-BMA (Parked at the GAT in Lagos)
Construction Number 24209
Line Number 1492
Aircraft Type Boeing 737-3Q4
First Flight 18-12-1987
Age 23.1 Years
Delivered: 25-03-2009
5N-BMG (Parked in Kano)
Construction Number 23638
Line Number 658
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-346
First Flight 22-09-1986
Age 24.3 Years
Test registration N6009F
Airframe Status Active
Delivered: 27-07-2009
5N-DDK (Parked in Kano)
Construction Number 23967
Line Number 692
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-346
First Flight 24-11-1987
Age 23.2 Years
Test registration N6005C
Airframe Status Active
Delivered: 20-08-2009
I'll just stop there. Trust me, there are many more. Plus, the limit was only reduced from 22 years to 20 years in November/December 2010
Unless you want to say "in recent times" means within the past two months.
5N-ASG (Parked in Kano)
Construction Number: 23436
Line Number: 163
Aircraft Type: Boeing 767-332
First Flight: 27-01-1987
Age: 24 Years
Airframe Status: Active
Delivered: 01-07-2010
5N-BMA (Parked at the GAT in Lagos)
Construction Number 24209
Line Number 1492
Aircraft Type Boeing 737-3Q4
First Flight 18-12-1987
Age 23.1 Years
Delivered: 25-03-2009
5N-BMG (Parked in Kano)
Construction Number 23638
Line Number 658
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-346
First Flight 22-09-1986
Age 24.3 Years
Test registration N6009F
Airframe Status Active
Delivered: 27-07-2009
5N-DDK (Parked in Kano)
Construction Number 23967
Line Number 692
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-346
First Flight 24-11-1987
Age 23.2 Years
Test registration N6005C
Airframe Status Active
Delivered: 20-08-2009
I'll just stop there. Trust me, there are many more. Plus, the limit was only reduced from 22 years to 20 years in November/December 2010
Unless you want to say "in recent times" means within the past two months.
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No worries,but dont forget NCAA process is slow,delivery date is different from"inspection date".Some aircraft when approved go straight into C check,before "delivery".Some even run into financial issues thereafter.So you may have your papers,but haven't taken delivery.I cant say for sure thats the issue with this airframes,but having been through the process,working with NCAA,i will say its very likely,as the time frame in your examples quite close.
