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Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.

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Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.

Old 24th Jul 2012, 04:53
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CPL.
I had no idea what I was getting into when I left for Africa.
I had enough of working a ground job dispatching aircraft and knew where I wanted to be. I quit my job and sold everything and a month after making the decision, I was on a plane for Jo'burg.

Two years later I was leaving again with nearly 2000hrs and 500 turbine.

You have to remember. It is only money. If all goes sour, you can always go home again and build up your savings for another go somewhere else.
Africa was my third attempt after Australia and Indonesia.

Sure 10k could buy you another 60hrs in a Cessna... or it could give you the chance to get 1500hrs.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 05:14
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Hey fella's. I've been thinking a lot about this whole bush pilot thing in Africa to build my hours. how legit is this whole thing? do most newbies go here and build their hours? I will be doing my ATPL / JAA license soon probably and was just wondering since I'm sure no airline would take me with low hours. so I need to pay the bills and I'm thinking about things like seaplanes, bush pilot, w.e it is. building hours and getting paid is my aim. do these operators need pilots? is there demand? and living in Africa sounds kinda weird for me, freaks me out a lil tbh just is very weird.. but yeah .

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Old 24th Jul 2012, 05:36
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You're right lilfly,It's also always possible that the gov. of Bots will again chance their regulations.
Lets see if the January is still on.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 15:05
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Oh that's the fun part about flying in Africa.
Just look at one of the new threads in the African forum about no permits being issues to expats in Tanzania.
There is chest beating like that every year. And then it all goes back to normal.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 15:09
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Nekro, Then it seems like Africa is not the right place for you.
You might want to look at getting an instructor rating or dropping parachutes.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 15:37
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I been watching that program on tele called Bush Pilots, where they are flying from Maun etc to all the smaller camps to take tourists to and from and food.

Seems like an amazing job to build the hours, i wonder if any of them pilots on tele are members of this forum
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 16:46
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You hoping for Emarn?
I know Kristy is on here somewhere, that's how she found out about the place.

I'm sure some of the Brits are as well... never did collect on those beers they promised me...
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 17:00
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I know may sound like a daft question but which one is Emarn again? haha

Im hoping any of them are on here, i would be good to actually ask some questions, or see how things are going etc.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 18:18
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haha yeah lilflyboy, i've been watching the show too. i actually trained in the same school as kristy. hadnt heard from her in a while so imagine my surprise when i saw she was in maun!
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 20:20
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Im not even sure what episodes im upto with this bush pilots series, has it ever been on before in the UK under a different name or anything? I want to catch up on any previous episodes.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 20:41
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No, it's a brand new series. Dave showed the entire set of 10 episodes over 2 weeks every weekday.

Now that it's finished, they're showing one a week. Episode 1 was on last Saturday, Episode 2 on this coming Saturday and so on.
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 20:43
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Hey CPLpilot87,

Looks like I will be seeing you in Maun next year, Jan- Feb. Got the permission from my GF after so much talking (Max. 2 years or she will leave and marry someone else!!!). After so much reading and research on Bush pilot, and lots of reality checks. Wants to challenge and experience Bush pilot life. My I/R will be expired soon. Does anyone know that current I/R is needed????? Up to now, I only know W.A requires I/R.

Thanks
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 23:57
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i may have to see if they are all available online to watch then
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 06:53
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You'll find it's over-dramatised drivel in many places, beginning with:
'Botswana - one of the most inhospitable places on earth.'
I lived there for several years, including four in Maun. It's nowhere near the dangerous environment that the exciteable presenter portrays. And as for making the pilots out to be steely-eyed supermen...
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 06:59
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Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.

N.dave I PM'd you, but what I've heard about the situation, there's only one pilot looking for job there, others went back to home because of lack of hrs. It seens to be that 350 is absolut minimum at the situation.
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 11:48
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CPLpilot87, check your pm!

Just been reading Wilderness Air requirements and they wanted 250hrs min. Also, been reading caab botswana caa about foreign licence conversion and it didn't mentioned anything about TT requirements. Unless things have changed recently!!

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Old 25th Jul 2012, 12:24
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Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.

That's the situation now what I've understood the provlem is work permit granted by goverment. That's at least due to emails I've got from there.
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 12:57
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One of the girls hired in the last round got hired with 275hrs.

Cpl, maybe it is too hard for you to come to Africa and perhaps you should be looking elsewhere as well?

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Old 25th Jul 2012, 14:23
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I think the only way to be 100% sure about the hours required is to personally contact the companies in question by telephone.
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Old 25th Jul 2012, 15:49
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Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.

Well it's just that if it's impossible to comply with the gov. under 350hr it's better to use that money and time to build up more hrs in somewhere else. At this moment in Maun people couldn't get anything under 300 and one guy with 300 got a job and went back to SA to build hrs to please the gov.
This is just the info I got from one fellow aviator whos now in Maun, also he told me that attitudes against foreign pilots have gotten tighter.
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