SAA Captain fired for racist remark

[four engine jock]

Iam glad that SAAPA and SAA pilot's union's backed him up.
Good to see the system worked.

[flyknight]

Well done

Well done to the union representing the complainant (SATAWU) and SAAPA representing the Captain for sanctioning SAA to have the dismissal set aside.

[saywhat]

Sanity prevails......I was worried for a short while.

[Mixed Sources]

Best outcome for both parties concerned. Hopefully a lesson has been learned.

[ERASER]

Although I feel glad that the pilot got “away” with this as dismissal seems a very harsh punishment for a word said in anger or frustration. The official company policy is dismissal therefore the company is not consistent in their disciplinary proceedings. I’m sure this opened the door for future incidence as a president was set by this case.A (Indian) technician was dismissed for the same offence in the same period……..

[kalahariferrari]

Eraser

You seem to be contradicting yourself, are you really glad or do you also hide behind the policies? A man's livelihood was at stake here and a good man at that, at some point in time we are all guilty of such an offence, be it here or anywhere else in the world. Name calling had been around long before aviation came around!

P.S>The difference between us and him? He got ratted on!

[millertime]

kalahariferrari who ratted on him? Be careful before you answer. The victim lodged a complaint no more no less, any other stories floating around are rubbish.

[kalahariferrari]

Be careful before you answer.

My Dear Sir,

Whose side do you think i'm on? I was lead to believe that the captain in question actually apologised to the individual and the said individual accepted his apology, so then why the harsh attack on the captain? I will rephrase if it pleases the sir! The difference between him and us........he got Caught!

[ERASER]

Kalahariferrari, what I'm saying is that this pilot can be glad he got "away" with it as the policy of the company is dismissal for this offence. The fact that he got “away” opened the way for future offenders to insist on the same treatment, the company will have to be consistent or face the CCMA.Many good, hard working technicians and other staff had their livelihood taken away by being dismissed for the same mistake which I always found to be "harsh" and unforgiving.

[Gyro Nut]

The question is: Is instant dismissal the only punishment for a racial slur these days. What about getting a first warning. What's is one's right here as far as the labour court is concerned?

The correct disciplinary procedure wasn't followed in this case correctly, and HR took over the whole thing. It was in contravention of the SAA Regulating Agreement where the Fleet Captain would normally hand out the ruling over dismissal or not.

[groundfloor]

Well done to the CEO for showing: leadership, common sense and for getting a silver lining out of this storm in a tea cup....Now how about getting some more a/c, some more routes, some - no, LOTS more pilots and making some cash for a change!!!

[nugpot]

Now how about getting some more a/c, some more routes,

How about giving some routes to Mango and the pax to BA/Comair ......

[Cable Tie]

I suppose, the said technician is not a good man, nor does he have a livelihood. Just a thought. I suppose technicians are just dispossable

[unstable load]

I suppose technicians are just dispossable

When put up alongside pilots, we mostly are considered more disposable. After all, we cost money in spares and all that, whereas pilots bring in money from revenue flights.

[Cardinal Puff]

Not to mention tripping over your fingers as you drag your knuckles along...