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Old 11th Sep 2010, 15:46
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Thumbs down Air Zimbabwe Pilots Strike Again

Apparently Air Zimbabwe Pilots have been on strike for the past few Days.....any news as to the progress if any?
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 17:23
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Maybe they asking for an extra BILLION Zim dollars increase per hour???

I think I have a 50 Billion Zim Dollar note somewhere.
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 20:21
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Just heard on the BBC, all sacked. Aircraft being hired from SA.
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 21:44
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Great, something else for the SA taxpayer to pay for. Football, Jacob Zuma's 22 children, and now flying Robbing and Graceless Mugape around
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One report says they haven't been paid allowances since Feb last year??
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BBC state aircraft to be hired from Quaries to fly their routes.

BBC News - Air Zimbabwe dismisses striking pilots

Now if they can't afford to pay their own pilots, how can they afford to hire in other airlines aircraft ?

Might be an idea to get cash upfront before starting any engines.
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Old 12th Sep 2010, 07:10
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I have seen a "zs" reg. F28 (JNB) with Air Zimbabwe painted on the side of the a/c.......
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Old 12th Sep 2010, 11:27
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Air Zimbabwe... Fair Play Please! The pilots are fired for not being paid?
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Old 12th Sep 2010, 12:00
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Any sensible pilot would get the out of there and get a job with a decent airline. There will never be any money because what little bit does come in will continure to end up with Mugabe's cronies in head office.

Air Zim is doomed, it might survive for a while as a virtual airline using wet leased overcapacity from other operators but even that is doubtful.

The entire country is a basket case.
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Old 12th Sep 2010, 14:29
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Any sensible pilot would get the out of there and get a job with a decent airline.
Which assumes that anybody else wants Air Zim pilots.
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I see that they have a ZS reg 737-200 on their regional routes now as well as the F28.

Surely it has got to be cheaper to pay the cabin crew what they are owed and get them back to work??

I don't blame the pilots.......have a job with Air Zim, work but not get paid. they might as well get fired, and still not get paid!!
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Old 12th Sep 2010, 18:36
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Which assumes that anybody else wants Air Zim pilots.
Abbey Road, you're obviously ignorant or oblivious as to the world of aviation........when you have time check how many ex Air Zim pilots fly all over the world. Just to help you with your "homework" some of the most senior Capt's in EK, GF, are ex Air Zim.......the rest is now for you to find out and report to Pprune Don't get onto your high horse and bad mouth Air Zim pilots. If you're African then am sure you do appreciate the problems involved with most African carriers and whether or not you support the politics of the respective countries, childish comments like yours should be treated with the full contempt they deserve. Even if it was shot at humour.....u deserve a 0/10

When it comes to bread and butter issues, aviators from any cockpit deserve our support and sympathy not ridicule. You never know when one day it will your "behind" on the picket line and an ex Air Zim pilot (who nobody wanted - in your wisdom or lack thereof) interviewing you for your next job. Take it easy on the rhetoric, sarcasm, humour blah, blah, blah and wind your neck in.

Alutta continua........
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 01:54
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Back in the 1980s Air Zimbabwe/Affretair pilots became available on the international job market. Prior to independence the Rhodesian Licence wasn't acceptable due to sanctions.

These pilots were snapped up by Cathay Pacific ("A" scale and very selective back then), Gulf Air, Dubai Air Wing, Singapore Airlines, Ansett, Australian Airlines and others.

In those days standards were high. These days, who knows ? Licence conversion would be much more difficult and potential employers far less welcoming.

If I were an Air Zim pilot I'd look at QATAR or other Middle East Airlines where my licence would be recognised. Get a couple of years of experience which would be acceptable elsewhere, pick up a JAA/FAA licence along the way, save some cash and move on.
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Several ex Air Zim Drivers on the B777 at QR Capt & F/O - All good guys
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 07:47
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In those days standards were high. These days, who knows ? Licence conversion would be much more difficult and potential employers far less welcoming.
This is where l had a gripe with a one Abbey Road and now Metro Man you wad into the same waters. Have you ever flown with an ex Air Zim pilot of "who knows" standard ? Standards are still the same as the days gone by and will never be lowered. And am sure you do appreciate any potential employer will put you through the rigours of an assessment before they turn you down whatever your background. And Air Zim has a lot of experienced pilots who unfortunately are not being paid their worth.

So Metro Man l do agree with you on the points you later raised, but just trying to fish out the "fly in the ointment" you had earlier brought up (ref: who knows) Am sure with the latest developements they will make the right choices on where to go and fly next. As you mentioned earlier many carriers have ex Air Zim pilots am sure the present crop once they make it through the interviews like should fit in like everybody else
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As you mentioned earlier many carriers have ex Air Zim pilots am sure the present crop once they make it through the interviews like should fit in like everybody else
IF the current crop are any good then they should have no trouble finding work if they are prepared to move internationally. I have flown with, and was taught by several ex Air Zim pilots who have moved along and are now Captains with major airlines.

However given the general deterioration of the country it would not be unreasonable to question the standards of the airline. Everything from drinking water quality to health services has slid down hill. The cream of the crop left long ago and we need to know what's replaced it.

If the airline was profitable, expanding, operating modern equipment and the licence was widely accepted for easy conversion. If major airlines were happy to code share on their flights. If the airline was allowed direct flights to the USA and Australia instead of being banned. Then their would be no question mark.

Unfortunately the airline is loss making, operates aging aircraft and has a poor reputation for reliability. This applies to some airlines in the west as well BUT CAA/FAA/JAA/CASA keep a special eye on them and will ground them if necessary.

If Air Zim buy new B777s and start direct services to New York on which American Airlines code share then their standards would obviously be acceptable.

Next time you are a passenger on a Cathay Pacific jumbo, it's quite possible the captain is an ex Air Zim Viscount/B707 driver.
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McGreaser, save your tantrum for someone who cares. I know several of the pilots you refer to, who are now in Emirates et al, so I know they are capable. I was referring to the Air Zim of today.
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 13:47
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Abbey Road you obviously have a chip on your shoulder ! am sure l can sense your drift, but you have no valid proof. Why are the pilots of today any different to the pilots of yonder ? Why do you think they are incapable ? Because of the current political climate in Zim you therefore think it transcends on the pilots or any other professionals that they become half baked ? If you have the presence of mind or time walk down any industry in the world and ask if there are any half baked professionals let alone pilots from Zim whether from today's generation or from the past.

To cut a long "tantrum" short Abbey Road, crawl back to your hole and live in the archives where your kind belongs. If you still aggrieved or feel the Air Zim pilots of today don't measure up, PM me and l will school you .......oh yeah l l forgot, you don't care

Surely the UK CAA, South African civil aviation authority, EU would have banned Air Zim from flying if they felt crew certification was below standard.

Metro Man makes a valid point, those who are ready to leave will throw their hats in the ring and look for greener pastures. Those who stay deserve to be paid accordingly or at least as per their agreement with the management
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 16:36
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McG, mind your blood pressure!
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Old 14th Sep 2010, 07:21
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Angry

Have the Um pilots been re hired yet ? That process is normally overnight for proper sensible consultation with the fairer sex. They tend to knock some sense into these clueless directors..or politicians whatever the case may be....Tread cautiously now Um U have been warned u may wake up to no Airline at all!
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