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Old 7th May 2010, 12:02
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Airlink instructors

Is there anyone out there that has recently had a very negative experience with Airlink instructors?

If what I hear is true, then that place is heading for a fall.
Can it be possible that one instructor can fail more pilots in one year than what has been failed in 10 years prior to his reign?
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Maybe they're just doing what should have been done throughout the last 10 years???

Airlink can't afford anymore mishaps - so maybe it's a good idea to "dispose" of the weaker links. The consequences of our mistakes tend to have dire outcomes.

This is not something unique to Airlink, all operators need a shake up now and then. It will only benefit the industry as a whole.


My 2c worth............(stir, stir)
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Old 7th May 2010, 15:36
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"termiNATOR"

I think all operators have their designated "Hatchet Man". (Most often their nicknames end in the suffix "NATOR") ie:Terminator

One individual at MK springs to mind.......

I personally think it reflects badly on the companys training dept. when they allow one individual to have such a failure rate. Shows no consitency in the standards.

Yes Link need to keep their house in order, but do it fairly, across the board.

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I hear rumour that two of their senior instructors stepped down from their posts. Must be serious trouble in the pool if they are willing to take a financial loss.
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Ja, from what I have heard there is a serious division in the instructors pool on the Jet stream and the students are taking the fall with instructors trying to prove a point. Not professional ! Go back to flying school if you want a instructional ego trip and leave professional aviation alone.
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It wont be two from the JS41 Pool as these are all new instructors since the massive skill exodus to other pools since the accident. There are three particular nasty incidents that I am aware of since the the new kids arrived on the block. One Pilot is now booked off due to stress, apparently for six months, another was off for three months, one recently failed her sim and apparently another is a marked person. There seems to be a new method of creating a very stressful dictator like environment during training, creating "snags" and diversions to ensure a fail during line checks. Apparently there is one instructor giving fair marks while others mark the candidates on the opposite scale, this instructor fighting a losing battle to the new kids, apparently he is on thin ice. If these rumors are true then Link has got nowhere to go but down, its is and will always remain a kiddies airline! Good luck!
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Maybe they're just doing what should have been done throughout the last 10 years???

So Anti Skid, how-come Link had No Incidents in the last 10 years but 4 in the last 6 months of the arrival of the kiddies ? Is it perhaps that now there's a buddy system of friends from relevant flying schools entering the ranks?
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Yes machdet, the fleet training captain is flying on a different pool than the JS41, he apparently has this little puppy doing the dirty work on the JS41 pool, jumping in from time to time to complete the "work" done by said puppy. From what I hear its bully techniques like you won't believe.

Also a new set of SOPs apparently introduced with personal preferences build in, there's a lot of bitching going on regarding this, seems it's the brainchild of the fleet training capt.

I feel sorry for the kids on the JS41 pool, can't be fun flying with instructors you don't trust!
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Airlink can't afford anymore mishaps - so maybe it's a good idea to "dispose" of the weaker links
The comment above from ANTI SKID INOP in a previous post is truely sad. Generations ago, that was how flight training was done.
In the modern day adult instruction environment, pilots are trained to achive a higher than normal standard, and are then tested to the normal standard. To just outright test people to destruction, to try and get rid of them, shows shortcomings in this particular ATO and not the pilots. There aren't that many completely incompetant pilots that Airlink will have to wash more than what was required in the previous 10 years. This kind of stunt is tell tale of gross inexperience in the professional instruction arena.
Good luck to all those that fall under the hand of these Nazi's and to those instructors involved: May others not do onto you as you have done onto others.
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Well Said! Let the Kids play with each other, luckily there are real airlines out there that can transport my family !
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Hi Suitcaseman , I am sure the majority of the Instructors are just fine. However I would feel better knowing a more mature approach to aviation is adhered too. Yes from personal experience I have seen youngsters with the abilities and maturity that would put a lot of more experienced pilots to shame. Unfortunately it is normally these individuals that get bullied by those with inferior security and abilities. Yes, Airlink had a perfect record till recantly, and yes, a lot of skill left when the market opened, and yes they managed to train new people to the required standard afterward, and yes those individuals find themselves on other pools after the accident. Airlink now reached another cross road with little skill left on the Jetstream pool.
But it seems the training method of some of the new appointed instructors on the JS41 pool seems to be questionable, and that is of great concern, braking a students confidence is not good training, that's sabotage!
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Talking about instructors...... I recently was lead to believe that the Airlink cabin crew training is done by a school outside of Airlink, but, co-owned by the venerable JVJ and The Duke. These two were apparently buddies from their good old SAA days.
Now, I am just wondering why RF would contract work out to a company "outside" of Airlink to do work that Airlink can easily do inside? Is RF aware that these two "employees" of his, are rumoured to own this outfit known as [Aeroblue]??
I believe that the extremely short stay and very high turnover of cabin crew is, to provide a lucrative income for JVJ and his buddy, within Airlink and to the cost of the company
Makes one wonder if the major shareholders like Nedbank and South City etc. are aware of this?
Anyone know more about them? I Googled them and found a CEO by the name of Strydom and another AA ops manager by the name of Makhubela on their site, but not who the owners are.
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 11:19
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Hey chaps, when a training department turns into a checking department why not name and shame. These individuals eventually move on and can then get a taste of their own methods!!
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Old 11th Jun 2010, 16:01
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Now all we have to do is hope there heads shrink back to normal size.... remember boys your no better than the rest of us at work....come back to earth and off your mighty horses!!!!
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Dear o dear! Why in heavens name does Link Pilots continue on this destructive path of self-sabotage? Yes, RF and JVJ might make a few extra bucks on the side, but so what, they are businessmen and that’s what they do. Incidentally my dear flying friends, its these two individuals that saved your bacon, those two individuals give you and many others the opportunity to earn a living. Airlink IS a good company with a healthy management.

Your problems are self-inflicted and in the flying ranks. Blaming the company for not following the career path and seniority list is one good example. How many shop stewards do you have as flying crew, …one? What backing do you give these individual(s)?

Now naming and shaming each other is a great example of not getting hired, unfortunately this is happening, references from some individuals inside Link come out negative and reflects badly on the company as a whole. What’s been happening lately is unfortunately well known in the industry.

Had the pilots shown the maturity to stand up, form a strong union ( Solidarity/Alpa, although I doubt if Alpa want such immature behavior amongst their ranks) a bargaining body would be available for management to deal with. All parties will benefit from this, your salaries will be market related, hence pilots will make Airlink a long term prospect, hence the skill level will go up, so management will benefit from a more experienced work force and better trained pilots. Your Instructors will be more experienced and more mature for the position. (Maturity is not necessary age related)

I certainly would think twice before hiring individuals that badmouth the very company that gives them the opportunity to earn a living. Certainly having a young immature twenty something year old and his crony wrecking the careers of fellow pilots is not professional. Naming and shaming is not the answer to your internal problems. Get your house in order, there are many super capable individuals inside Airlink that can take the lead but need your support. If Airlink Pilots had a strong healthy union with a good structure these career threatening behavior would not have happened.

These incidences of bad training and personal vendettas/victimizing would have been dealt with immediately when picked up. As it is the company and those individuals concerned can be very lucky that the cases did not go to court. You cannot have loose canons like this ruining the reputation of the company and individuals.

Airlink Pilots have always had a good reputation, don’t drop the ball now! Identify the leaders with the maturity level to deal with your issues and BACK them, you will be surprised to find that management will be more than willing to deal with a well structured mature body, you will empower yourself and find that all aspects in the company will rise to new levels.

If you don’t, then be prepared to find yourself with Mr. self proclaimed Hatched Man Anti Skid in a position where the power of position will be abused. Before Airlink becomes your last place of employment, act now, the industry is watching!
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.....Mr. self proclaimed Hatched Man Anti Skid......

It's "Hatchet" Man, I say again "Hatchet" Man............get it right before I wash you too!!!!!!!!
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Old 13th Jul 2010, 10:35
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Talking

You have to get out of Airlink first dear friend. Happy Hunting !
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Looks like the chickens are coming in thick and fast now!

It would seem that the so called "bulldog" that hates pilots has left an empty void among his close followers. Sounds like the mat has been pulled from under their feet and unfortunately there is not much leg left to stand on. Rumor has it that several big guns are aimed and ready to fire at spaced intervals so as not to plunge link into the realm of "crisis management."
Dear oh dear. Bulldust may take one to the top, BUT it does not keep one there!! One often forgets that the people you pass on the way up are the ones you'll meet on the way down. It may not be a pleasant experience either!!
The wheel turns.
Good luck link. Don't back off now.
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Sadly I've heard the child instructor and his puppet master have won over the experienced gentleman.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 19:49
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My Info dried up a bit but please that not be the case !
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