SA Airlink J41 crash
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Cover-Up
On the 23rd September 2009 a part 121 public-transport aircraft normally used for for an airline scedule crashes.
It is now half way through November of said year, still no incling of what happened????
My ear close to the SACAA tell me this is one of the most spectacular cover-ups to ever happen, world-wide!! Air France/ Kenyan eat your hearts out, you can't hold a candle to this!
The hull is complete, albeit broken. The FDR is in perfect condition. The CVR is in perfect condition. One of the pilots has survived. The cabin attendant survived. Unluckily for him, the pilot died from his injuries and now cannot defend himself, if required.
Eye witnesses were present watching the a/c take off and climb away.(or not
) The ATCs were present.
Subsequently the engines were immediately sent to the manufacturer as well as the propellers for analysis.
There was no fire to damage and hide any evidence.
This should be a bench-mark analysis of an aircraft crash, with all the relevant factors fully dissected and analysed!
Whar the hell is going on?? !!!!!
It is now half way through November of said year, still no incling of what happened????
My ear close to the SACAA tell me this is one of the most spectacular cover-ups to ever happen, world-wide!! Air France/ Kenyan eat your hearts out, you can't hold a candle to this!
The hull is complete, albeit broken. The FDR is in perfect condition. The CVR is in perfect condition. One of the pilots has survived. The cabin attendant survived. Unluckily for him, the pilot died from his injuries and now cannot defend himself, if required.
Eye witnesses were present watching the a/c take off and climb away.(or not
) The ATCs were present.Subsequently the engines were immediately sent to the manufacturer as well as the propellers for analysis.
There was no fire to damage and hide any evidence.
This should be a bench-mark analysis of an aircraft crash, with all the relevant factors fully dissected and analysed!
Whar the hell is going on?? !!!!!
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Moenie worry nie, I'm not crying wolf, but knowing our wonderful CAA, it will be a cover up, just like most of the prangs in the country....
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MC......hate to burst your bubble, but the accident department is not actually part of CAA......it is a side devision, which in the near future, I believe, will have nothing to do with CAA.
So if you would be so kind as to point the fingers elsewhere and not at the CAA......even they get side-stepped.
So if you would be so kind as to point the fingers elsewhere and not at the CAA......even they get side-stepped.
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Randomness Comes In Lumps
Plane spins off PE runway
Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:00
An SA Airlink aircraft with 29 passengers on board left the runway at the Port Elizabeth airport on Wednesday afternoon, paramedics said.
None of passengers or the crew members on board were injured, said Netcare 911 spokesperson Jeff Wicks said.
"They've all been safely extricated from the plane by ACSA firefighters and shuttled to the arrivals area," said Wicks.
He said the plane, bound for East London, left the runway on take off.
"Passengers insist that as the plane rumbled down the runway and gathered speed they heard a loud noise from the left of the plane and it spun violently and skidded into the grass," said Wicks.
"Besides being visibly shaken all passengers and the crew are in good health."
Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:00
An SA Airlink aircraft with 29 passengers on board left the runway at the Port Elizabeth airport on Wednesday afternoon, paramedics said.
None of passengers or the crew members on board were injured, said Netcare 911 spokesperson Jeff Wicks said.
"They've all been safely extricated from the plane by ACSA firefighters and shuttled to the arrivals area," said Wicks.
He said the plane, bound for East London, left the runway on take off.
"Passengers insist that as the plane rumbled down the runway and gathered speed they heard a loud noise from the left of the plane and it spun violently and skidded into the grass," said Wicks.
"Besides being visibly shaken all passengers and the crew are in good health."
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which in the near future, I believe, will have nothing to do with CAA.
Whilst in the past it functioned very well, ALL under the Department of Transport. Those WERE better days, and the sky's a little safer!
Durban J 41 Accident - Pilot Extrication
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Advanced triage
In advanced triage, doctors may decide that some seriously injured people should not receive advanced care because they are unlikely to survive. Advanced care will be used on patients with less severe injuries. Because treatment is intentionally withheld from patients with certain injuries, advanced triage has ethical implications. It is used to divert scarce resources away from patients with little chance of survival in order to increase the chances of survival of others who are more likely to survive.
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Advanced triage
In advanced triage, doctors may decide that some seriously injured people should not receive advanced care because they are unlikely to survive. Advanced care will be used on patients with less severe injuries. Because treatment is intentionally withheld from patients with certain injuries, advanced triage has ethical implications. It is used to divert scarce resources away from patients with little chance of survival in order to increase the chances of survival of others who are more likely to survive.
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CM100,
you said,
Are you asking the question or are you hoping someone will ask so that you can answer it for us?
you said,
Durban J 41 Accident - Pilot Extrication
I am amazed that no one has asked why it took just under 3 hours to extricate the most seriously injured person ?
I am amazed that no one has asked why it took just under 3 hours to extricate the most seriously injured person ?
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Durban J 41 Accident - Pilot Extrication
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Extrication and triage are very different and occur in the order stated.
AirwayBlocker
I am hoping someone who was there could provide some insight.
Extrication and triage are very different and occur in the order stated.
AirwayBlocker
I am hoping someone who was there could provide some insight.
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Heard that Allister's fingers were jammed between the cockpit window and the dash, and they had to decide on the accident scene whether or not to amputate some of his fingers before they could get him out. In the end it sounds like he did loose some fingers, not that it matters now.
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Fuzzy Lager: "he acted with neither skill nor professionalism"
Never judge someone till you truly know them deeply and have walked a mile in their shoes!!!
Hope you never experience a engine failure - wonder how you would react!
Never judge someone till you truly know them deeply and have walked a mile in their shoes!!!
Hope you never experience a engine failure - wonder how you would react!
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Chances are he has experienced one.
There are procedures to be followed in the event of an engine failure. This particular case appears to be a shutdown and handover of control that may not have been strictly according to SOPs, from what I read here.
Walking a mile in anyone's shoes has no bearing on this. Even good guys get it wrong occasionally.
There are procedures to be followed in the event of an engine failure. This particular case appears to be a shutdown and handover of control that may not have been strictly according to SOPs, from what I read here.
Walking a mile in anyone's shoes has no bearing on this. Even good guys get it wrong occasionally.
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Tabitha,
I have indeed suffered an engine failure, and under far more trying circumstances.
I am not judging the man, I am judging the flying abilities of the man. The decisions he made whilst flying an Islander nearly 5 years ago had direct impact on my life so I feel entitled to do so.
My condolences on your loss.
I have indeed suffered an engine failure, and under far more trying circumstances.
I am not judging the man, I am judging the flying abilities of the man. The decisions he made whilst flying an Islander nearly 5 years ago had direct impact on my life so I feel entitled to do so.
My condolences on your loss.
