Watch out with this guys in Congo DRC.
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Well
Well I guess the question is :
Where are those nice operators mentioned on the above posts?
Thank you.
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Last job I had in Congo was in 2007 on the Be 1900 making 400 USD per day .Food ,accommodation,insurance and so on.Business class airline ticket and I came back alive from Congo.
I do love money.No passion for flying any longer I do only for money.
Where are those nice operators mentioned on the above posts?
Thank you.
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Last job I had in Congo was in 2007 on the Be 1900 making 400 USD per day .Food ,accommodation,insurance and so on.Business class airline ticket and I came back alive from Congo.
I do love money.No passion for flying any longer I do only for money.
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Why?
So I do help people do not become suckers and murder like you Phoenix Dc.
As you know all those pilots that die in airplanes accident are because of people like you that have been denigrated all out category of professional pilots considering us , Captain, less than what you expel every morning from there rear part of your back body.
Now due too this attitude of less self respect now days there is a tendency of accepting always less money with more risk involved and some times even accepting to loose our life to please people like you PhoenixDC that more likely you are one of those that try to impress some of the operators that comes on this forum in search of the next victim that will offer their own life for free.
Fortunately there are still Captains with some self respect left in their soul that fight and do not accept miserable conditions of life in other to have job .
I am happy that finally always more people and people are starting to speak up , because only in this way we are going to see always less posts on this forum expressing their "fake" sorrow toward others pilots that lost their life because of the Glory of some insane person like you and some stupid operator.
Please give a favor to everyone get out from this forum you are dangerous.
R.V.
As you know all those pilots that die in airplanes accident are because of people like you that have been denigrated all out category of professional pilots considering us , Captain, less than what you expel every morning from there rear part of your back body.
Now due too this attitude of less self respect now days there is a tendency of accepting always less money with more risk involved and some times even accepting to loose our life to please people like you PhoenixDC that more likely you are one of those that try to impress some of the operators that comes on this forum in search of the next victim that will offer their own life for free.
Fortunately there are still Captains with some self respect left in their soul that fight and do not accept miserable conditions of life in other to have job .
I am happy that finally always more people and people are starting to speak up , because only in this way we are going to see always less posts on this forum expressing their "fake" sorrow toward others pilots that lost their life because of the Glory of some insane person like you and some stupid operator.
Please give a favor to everyone get out from this forum you are dangerous.
R.V.
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If R.V. spent half as much time and effort as he does ranting and raving on this site, on improving his image and skill in aviation, he might get somewhere, instead chasing every little prospect that raises it head.
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Sure
Sure PhoenixDC,
but as far I can see I am not so sure that what you said in your post would apply strictly to me , because I am not the one that with only 4 post in this forum have been reading all the post and threads for the past two years of another member .
Don t you have any thing better to do in your life?.
I guess this is the same story .
Now I would like to make an announcement:
To any Dracula operator on this forum , please give a job to PhoenixDC in any remote area with junk airplane without pay so , he will serve you as slave and will die for the Glory of you bank account.
PhoenixDC see how helpful I am toward my colleagues? Come now you are ready to go...
R.V.
but as far I can see I am not so sure that what you said in your post would apply strictly to me , because I am not the one that with only 4 post in this forum have been reading all the post and threads for the past two years of another member .
Don t you have any thing better to do in your life?.
I guess this is the same story .
Now I would like to make an announcement:
To any Dracula operator on this forum , please give a job to PhoenixDC in any remote area with junk airplane without pay so , he will serve you as slave and will die for the Glory of you bank account.
PhoenixDC see how helpful I am toward my colleagues? Come now you are ready to go...
R.V.
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Um, I'm not entirely sure, but the posting style is oddly similar to a certain Oxaliza-Oxen who has been extemporising prolifically over in the CC Wannabes (EK) forum 
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Hi Guys.
I originally placed a post here about some not so good buys in the DRC.
Day after day I came back here to see every kind of opinions and how this derivated in personal matters, this is not new, I have seen the same thing with other topics and in other forums.
Isn't it time we fellow pilots get together to give us a hand each other to avoid the kind of people I mentioned and to get through this difficul times?
Good luck to everybody.
I originally placed a post here about some not so good buys in the DRC.
Day after day I came back here to see every kind of opinions and how this derivated in personal matters, this is not new, I have seen the same thing with other topics and in other forums.
Isn't it time we fellow pilots get together to give us a hand each other to avoid the kind of people I mentioned and to get through this difficul times?
Good luck to everybody.
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so... i ask you this. ive been reading this forum for a year or two now...
just finishing my first season of work in the USA... will be done with about 1000 hours roughly...
and im STILL interested in this crazy place you call the Dark Continent...
does that mean I'm crazy?
and where do I sign up?
just finishing my first season of work in the USA... will be done with about 1000 hours roughly...
and im STILL interested in this crazy place you call the Dark Continent...
does that mean I'm crazy?
and where do I sign up?
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Another sucker for Africa.
Seem to be a lot of Yanks heading over here as your home market has tanked.
Since you guys keep lowering the bar at all your top airlines and that hasn't worked, you're coming over here to pollute the contract world by offering your services for free.
Good luck + remember: Anything north of the Limpopo just isn't worth taking.
Seem to be a lot of Yanks heading over here as your home market has tanked.
Since you guys keep lowering the bar at all your top airlines and that hasn't worked, you're coming over here to pollute the contract world by offering your services for free.
Good luck + remember: Anything north of the Limpopo just isn't worth taking.
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LOL im insulted to say that I am offering my services for free!!
I am paid very well at my current job, and i enjoy it, and could continue on next year if I want to... it just doesnt have the 'romance' that Africa holds...
I am looking for work that seems more suitable, than sitting and pulling the gear handle and getting paid the same as working at MCDONALDS like most jobs in the US are right now!!
I am seeking the real work.... the hard stuff, not the easy life. I enjoy a good challenge. Africa seems like a place to find that.
I am paid very well at my current job, and i enjoy it, and could continue on next year if I want to... it just doesnt have the 'romance' that Africa holds...
I am looking for work that seems more suitable, than sitting and pulling the gear handle and getting paid the same as working at MCDONALDS like most jobs in the US are right now!!
I am seeking the real work.... the hard stuff, not the easy life. I enjoy a good challenge. Africa seems like a place to find that.
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Ah well, well why didn't you say so earlier.
If its ROMANCE you are after, then you are coming to the right place. There is so much romance available to a Yanky M'zungu like you. The girls will be all over you - literally.
Just remember that African romance often comes bundled with the gift that keeps on giving... > also known down here as " The Slow Puncture."
If its ROMANCE you are after, then you are coming to the right place. There is so much romance available to a Yanky M'zungu like you. The girls will be all over you - literally.
Just remember that African romance often comes bundled with the gift that keeps on giving...
> also known down here as " The Slow Puncture."
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Romantic?
Ahhh yes their is nothing more romantic then Malaria, Cholera, poor pay shocking living conditions and more AK-47 than zeros at the end of the local currency T.I.A
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Africa is for those with good self awareness skills, those who have zero or dont even know what self awareness skills are keep away. Africa is not for the pedantic, moronic, arty farty, tree huggin, sundried tomato eating, trendy lefty, apron string suckin, sissyboys.
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Africa
Africa is most easy place to fly.
Malaria when you get it ,take chinino for 3 days and that is all, much easier to cure than a cold.I got 4 times my self .
AK 47 .... and ? I did see more arms in USA and Europe than in Somalia and Angola mix together during the early stage of the revolution.
The weather ...well I flown in Montana for several years I can tell you that it is the most challenging place I never flown in my life
R.V.
Malaria when you get it ,take chinino for 3 days and that is all, much easier to cure than a cold.I got 4 times my self .
AK 47 .... and ? I did see more arms in USA and Europe than in Somalia and Angola mix together during the early stage of the revolution.
The weather ...well I flown in Montana for several years I can tell you that it is the most challenging place I never flown in my life
R.V.
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From what I have seen on this thread, it is little wonder why Africa as the pitifully poor safety record it does. I am back in Africa (Nigeria) after 14 years away (Angola). It has not changed very much.
The improved areas include more VHF comm coverage and more ATC radar's. Weather services have improved, mostly due to the internet. And that is about it.
Poor International ATC communications. Poor ATC procedures. Poor Air Traffic Control. The airports have not improved much. Corruption and bribery is rampant. Many of the operators here make the USA bottom feeders and 134 1/2 operators look extremely professional.
I am still seeing aircraft flying without required parts installed. Including airframe parts. Pencil whipped maintenance is still common. Pushing to fly over weight is still the norm. I have watch an operator fly a B727-100 30,000 pounds plus over gross. Another time watch them load a B727-200 with 50 KG sacks of grain onto a standard passenger floor way over the floor limit.
In some whys India is getting as bad. Lying about the accommodations and trying to change the pay package after you get there. Trying to cheat you out of pay seems the norm for some operators. The operator I am working for here, just tried it and we just told him to get us tickets home as we were leaving. The tone changed rather quickly. But we also had an advantage of flying an N numbered aircraft.
As for pay, keep in mind the astronaut motto:
NO BUCKS, NO BUCK ROGERS!
The improved areas include more VHF comm coverage and more ATC radar's. Weather services have improved, mostly due to the internet. And that is about it.
Poor International ATC communications. Poor ATC procedures. Poor Air Traffic Control. The airports have not improved much. Corruption and bribery is rampant. Many of the operators here make the USA bottom feeders and 134 1/2 operators look extremely professional.
I am still seeing aircraft flying without required parts installed. Including airframe parts. Pencil whipped maintenance is still common. Pushing to fly over weight is still the norm. I have watch an operator fly a B727-100 30,000 pounds plus over gross. Another time watch them load a B727-200 with 50 KG sacks of grain onto a standard passenger floor way over the floor limit.
In some whys India is getting as bad. Lying about the accommodations and trying to change the pay package after you get there. Trying to cheat you out of pay seems the norm for some operators. The operator I am working for here, just tried it and we just told him to get us tickets home as we were leaving. The tone changed rather quickly. But we also had an advantage of flying an N numbered aircraft.
As for pay, keep in mind the astronaut motto:
NO BUCKS, NO BUCK ROGERS!