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Old 3rd Mar 2009, 14:37
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dang, you know things are bad when even Riccardo is dissin' you and you can't fight back.....
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J train ,
do you have a job at the moment?
R.V.
If yes please do not laugh on people that are not in the same situation you are.
About injustice in the aviation field , well has been long time that I am trying to improve the position of Professional Pilots , so I guess please do not pull my legs any longer on this matter. I sure appreciate your understanding
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Old 3rd Mar 2009, 16:54
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Riccardo,

I was not laughing at you in my message.

I was merely pointing out how bad things were for LOGS that you, who is normally the whipping boy on the Africa section of Pprune, were criticizing him and there was nothing he could say to defend himself.

For your information LOGS appears to be the enemy of all hard-working professional pilots. He thinks his money can get him a job, as WDaron was saying.

I want you to think about that for a moment, Riccardo, as you appear to be a well-qualified commercial pilot. Imagine if you and him applied for the CASA 212. You and him were the two finalists for the job BUT he gets it because he's willing to buy his type rating.

How does that make you feel?
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This thread has become very funny.

Just because you don't have a job gives you the right to insult those who do?

Just because you're not willing to do what needs to be done to get a job gives you the right to bitch about it to people who are willing.

Obviously if it came down to us two and I got the job was because I was the better choice, or would a company choose the worse one?

You must not know but buying your type is a VERY common thing in contract flying.

In reality, we all pay for the type rating in one way or another.

Keep it up, you guys are really entertaining me on this flight trip. Flew 6 hours today...felt great

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Old 5th Mar 2009, 04:42
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Casa training

Where can you get the ground school and type rating at for the Casa 212?
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Old 5th Mar 2009, 09:39
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BUT

but someone knows what airline is hiring? Evergreen? Kivu Air?

Casa 212 nickname is BOX SHOE

Any TRTO in Spain to get CASA's TR. Only military and State aircraft are flying here.
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Old 5th Mar 2009, 11:22
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TRTO?

TRTO????????
Any other place besides Spain for schooling for the Casa 212?
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Old 5th Mar 2009, 12:27
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Hello to everybody.

Does anyone know what outfit is that and where to apply? I am a C212 PIC with 1700 TT, 700 as PIC. Would really like to know more about which company is it for and what about the T&C's. Anyone can share some info?

Best regards to you all.
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Old 5th Mar 2009, 14:59
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212 Tr

http://www.eaglejet.se/Prislista.doc
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Old 5th Mar 2009, 18:24
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Casa 212 Training

I called that EagleJet training place in Miami
http://www.eaglejet.se/Prislista.doc
and they stopped 2 or 3 years ago and they didn't know of any other place in the US that does the training?????????

Any other ideas, training at the factory in Spain or what?
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Old 6th Mar 2009, 09:49
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I will try

I'm not sure but I think I know a man working in CASA or EADS, I'm going to ask. I couldn't found any info in Google. Maybe in Malaysa...
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Old 9th Mar 2009, 14:15
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Anyone knows anything more about this operation of Evergreen? And what about Terms and Conditions? I have made a spontaneous application through their website.

Any info I am pretty much obliged.

Thank you!
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Old 14th Mar 2009, 23:03
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It is confirmed: Those jobs are for an evergreen operation in Congo. climbto350 as the job posted. I have already applied through evergreen website and am still waiting for a response from them. As anyone applied already?

Cheers!
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Old 15th Mar 2009, 00:17
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Which Congo? It makes a big difference.
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Old 15th Mar 2009, 00:29
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Rick,

That is what I need to ask evergreen if they call me for any kind of assessment... For now I have no info. Know nothing about the operation they are performing, nothing about which of the Congo's, nothing about T&C. Haven't got the faintest idea... I was hopping to know something on pprune, but it seems like the CASA dricers don't use this forum...

Cheers.

P.S.: Are you applying?
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Old 15th Mar 2009, 08:19
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Devil LOGS

Better that you just shut up....
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Old 15th Mar 2009, 12:58
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C212,

No I am not. I used to work for Evergreen. There is a saying around the helicopter industry, 'Everyone has worked for Evergreen, ONCE'. The CASA's are under the helicopter program, so the FW pilots are treated like a lesser life form. There are some good people there, but the management resembles the movie 'Animal House'. The benefits are good. Keep in mind since you are working overseas, their insurance program kicks in immediately, not 90 days down the road. The pay is normally a little lower that the norm for these types of contracts. Evergreen has a history of paying under the average pay for the area and industry. Your job is only as secure as the contract. When the contract goes away, so does your job. While it is possible that they might continue to use you after the contract, it is not the norm.

Maintenance is normally good, but the final quality as always depends on the quality of the mechanics in the field. John K. was and most likely still is the the Director of Maintenance out of McMinnville. He has a very good head on this shoulders, but remember he is a company man, first and foremost. If you have a problem and he likes your suggestion on how to deal with it, he will support you fully. If he doesn't like it, don't go there.

It is like no other company you could imagine. You will go places and do things, you never though you would do. It is an experience you will never get anywhere else.
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Old 15th Mar 2009, 21:23
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Originally Posted by 5Z4
Better that you just shut up....
Why and to whom are you saying that? If I may ask...
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Old 15th Mar 2009, 21:31
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Rick,

Thank you for all the time sharing your experience and knowledge about evergreen.

I am still trying them because I would really like to keep on flying turbo-prop instead of the A's and B's. At least for some years (even for the entire rest of my flying career, who knows). Because of that desire I am talking to everyone that has CASA 212 as I am type rated on the a/c. Nowadays as you well know the times are difficult and it is hard, if not impossible, to grab a seat on a turbo-prop if not type-rated...

If you know of someone that as a place for me flying turbo-prop, preferrably in Africa, please give me a call.

Cheers!
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Old 17th Mar 2009, 22:55
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sslliicckk, google "Fayard Enterprises Llc"

Being part 91, these guys might be the only ones willing to give a C-212 training versus $$$ to a complete stranger.
Just beware of the quality of it as they are known to use dummy copilots (aka someone not even trained on type to occupy the right seat) for some of their skydive ops.

There is also Blackwater aviation but I don't think you would call them a training outfit
Same with Fugro who is not hiring anyway.
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