There goes more of my tax money. SAA loose money again
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If
1. SAA is so bad and
2. South Africa is so bad
WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU STILL HERE AND BOTHERING?
1. If Australia is so good - WHY IS THEY IN SO MUCH OF A BOTHER LOOKING FOR PILOTS FROM SA?
MAYBE ALL SHOULD TAKE THEIR PRECIOUS BELONGINGS (TAX MONEY) AND ATTITUDES AND GO FLY FOR QUANTAS? I BET YOU YOU WILL SOON BE BACK AS THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE AS THERE IS USUALLY MORE SH!T!
I'm off to the local PUB for a BEER!
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1. SAA is so bad and
2. South Africa is so bad
WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU STILL HERE AND BOTHERING?
1. If Australia is so good - WHY IS THEY IN SO MUCH OF A BOTHER LOOKING FOR PILOTS FROM SA?
MAYBE ALL SHOULD TAKE THEIR PRECIOUS BELONGINGS (TAX MONEY) AND ATTITUDES AND GO FLY FOR QUANTAS? I BET YOU YOU WILL SOON BE BACK AS THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE AS THERE IS USUALLY MORE SH!T!
I'm off to the local PUB for a BEER!
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Flight to PE very recently, Spoories A319 lines up 03L, then taxis back to bay. Reason? "We forgot some passengers". Waits in the bay for 45 min for a small group of pax (4) to board, has to take on more fuel, finally takes off over an hour later. Real slick operation.
What happened to headcount / pax manifest / customer service? Eish
What happened to headcount / pax manifest / customer service? Eish
Maybe SAA should stop paying their senior management retention bonuses and we might see a little cash left in the coffers! Just a thought Khaya!
And by the way VG300...Qantas spelt without a 'U'.........!
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Who said anything about Australia? We're talking about SAA's habitual bail out policy and their attempts to hide the fact that sponging off the tax payer is the only way they can stay afloat while squandering billions. Don't let the voices in your head confuse you.
As Beechbum says, it's QANTAS - Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service.
As Beechbum says, it's QANTAS - Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service.
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Nobody is saying SAA or South Africa is 'so bad'. What we are saying is that both have problems. Wasting resources on badly run state airlines is NOT a winning solution.
Frankly, where I live or work won't affect the problem either.
Frankly, where I live or work won't affect the problem either.
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My view is that it is an unfair playing field. SAA has the most efficient fleet in the country and yet they still can't turn a profit? No-one gave Nationwide, Flitestar or Sunair money when they needed the injection (a tiny fraction of what SAA wants) so why should SAA get it? Such practises call only result in a monoply of the industry and the stifling of private enterprise.
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SAA has the most efficient fleet in the country and yet they still can't turn a profit
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MAYBE ALL SHOULD TAKE THEIR PRECIOUS BELONGINGS (TAX MONEY) AND ATTITUDES AND GO FLY FOR QUANTAS? I BET YOU YOU WILL SOON BE BACK AS THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE AS THERE IS USUALLY MORE SH!T!
So let me take my small amount, to a country where I will have to pay more tax, but I don't object, the services are functional.
Yes I have an Australian permanent residents visa, leaving after xmas.
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Best future for SAA
The dilemma is that the SA government is in about twenty minds as to what should be done. The realists want SAA sold, but are held back by some of their own ANC members, and most certainly by COSATU and the SACP. The latter actually want to get SASOL back as a state run entity, and are still chipped off about the former ISCOR.
SAA needs to be sold off, with a public share offering, for listing on the JSE. Only then will it be run as a proper, competitive business which will sink or swim on its own merits.
The operational staff are professionals who can hold their heads up high, but are let down by a bunch of ANC appointees who are generally incompetent.
The status quo is the most likely option for the immediate future.
SAA needs to be sold off, with a public share offering, for listing on the JSE. Only then will it be run as a proper, competitive business which will sink or swim on its own merits.
The operational staff are professionals who can hold their heads up high, but are let down by a bunch of ANC appointees who are generally incompetent.
The status quo is the most likely option for the immediate future.
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What I find so very interesting is there is a US law which states that any person flying on the states tab needs to fly on a US based carrier, irrespective of the cost.
Delta Airlines got about $60 million last year from US government business. Now the merits of this system is debatable.
Recently somebody I know was flying BA First Class and a government minister was in the cabin as well. Why are they not on SAA which won't actually cost us anything unless of course they bump a paying pax.
Delta Airlines got about $60 million last year from US government business. Now the merits of this system is debatable.
Recently somebody I know was flying BA First Class and a government minister was in the cabin as well. Why are they not on SAA which won't actually cost us anything unless of course they bump a paying pax.
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Well said Beechbum. Things do go further than just fuel efficient aircraft. But before we try to withhold those "deserving managers" performance bonuses we may just first want to see their job descriptions. Kind of like ESCOM where the CEO was entitled to his performance bonus even though the country was plunged into darkness with the resultant damage to the economy, he had actually performed in terms of his job description because the bonus had nothing to do with him ensuring ESCOM generates electricity efficiently (as stupid old me thought!) but rather, he had "transformation" targets to achieve and he had, in fact, exceeded his targets!!
Fourteen years into an ANC government and they are still "transforming" the country? Only in Africa
Fourteen years into an ANC government and they are still "transforming" the country? Only in Africa
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i dont profess to know whats going on with saa and government handouts and actually dont really care. Just think if saa dont get our money it would just be more for the dodgey corrupt politicians to get hold of, what is worse! As for those whiners at comair etc that go on about saa putting airlines out of business i really think saa are to busy trying to keep their house in order. Maybe those other airlines should look at their maintenance track record and maybe then engines wont fall off
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As for those whiners at comair etc that go on about saa putting airlines out of business i really think saa are to busy trying to keep their house in order. Maybe those other airlines should look at their maintenance track record and maybe then engines wont fall off
How can you compete against a business than can not fail? That can effectively price themselves cheaper than anybody else and not go out of business?
Comair are perfectly within their rights especially since other government departments are now trying to bully them such as the department of employment or what ever title they go by these days. Trying to demand they pay a fine for people not being black? Well our constitution says NO racial, gender classification there is no criteria for qualification and how to qualify race in south africa. It is funny my family has been in Africa for 300 hundred years so why am I not African?