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hear at a friend today that the ops guy is forcing the pilots to do illigal flights!! to exceed FDP and to continue with the flight knowing that its unsafe!!!
Madness... and the best is that he manupulate the young pilots (new capt's) because they dont know better.. and are too scared to say NO!
They must get rid of all they guys in ops.. there must be over 5 of them at one time "operational" but only 1 doing the job... hear she might be leaving aswell... nextdoor to us at SAX.
I cant understand how pilots or actually anybody wants to work for Link?? After that JS41 that actually lost a nosewheel on takeoff.. or what about the one that never got the nosewheels out in the first place.. and did the emergency landing in durbs...
this time.. everything is going to come off... .. Link is slowly sinking.. sad but true..
Madness... and the best is that he manupulate the young pilots (new capt's) because they dont know better.. and are too scared to say NO!
They must get rid of all they guys in ops.. there must be over 5 of them at one time "operational" but only 1 doing the job... hear she might be leaving aswell... nextdoor to us at SAX.
I cant understand how pilots or actually anybody wants to work for Link?? After that JS41 that actually lost a nosewheel on takeoff.. or what about the one that never got the nosewheels out in the first place.. and did the emergency landing in durbs...
this time.. everything is going to come off... .. Link is slowly sinking.. sad but true..
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Some advice on talking to ops (or any one else at Link you feel this is appropriate for):
1. Tell the person you are speaking to that you are recording the coversation;
2. Actually record the conversation; and
3. If they do not agree to a recording ask them for a formal letter.
Now you have evidence of your conversation or their demands. All imporant when you are building your case for the CCMA.
Intimidation and discrimination (whether on health status, age, gender, etc) is unacceptable. Even if they put it in writing and every one agrees to it, they still cannot act against the law which specifically prohibits any form of discrimination and intimidation.
They are playing with fire and this bookworm is waiting for the explosion
1. Tell the person you are speaking to that you are recording the coversation;
2. Actually record the conversation; and
3. If they do not agree to a recording ask them for a formal letter.
Now you have evidence of your conversation or their demands. All imporant when you are building your case for the CCMA.
Intimidation and discrimination (whether on health status, age, gender, etc) is unacceptable. Even if they put it in writing and every one agrees to it, they still cannot act against the law which specifically prohibits any form of discrimination and intimidation.
They are playing with fire and this bookworm is waiting for the explosion
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There is a new socalled sick leave policy that states you now have to fax or email a doctors letter through to airlink within 6 hours of phoning in sick. I wonder if link thinks that the labour law does not apply to them. They also state that they can at their descretion insist that you now go to a doctor of their choice. Have they ever heard of doctor patient confidentiality. They also state that you can be forced to work on your off days to make up for the sick leave day.
You have got to go and get a mental check up if you are actually considering joining link. Really!!! That charter job is now becoming a seriously good alternate if not another airline.
You have got to go and get a mental check up if you are actually considering joining link. Really!!! That charter job is now becoming a seriously good alternate if not another airline.
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There is a new socalled sick leave policy that states you now have to fax or email a doctors letter through to airlink within 6 hours of phoning in sick. I wonder if link thinks that the labour law does not apply to them. They also state that they can at their descretion insist that you now go to a doctor of their choice. Have they ever heard of doctor patient confidentiality. They also state that you can be forced to work on your off days to make up for the sick leave day.
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Put yourself in their shoos, you would do the same thing. If a small percentage of your staff members are conveniently calling in sick on a friday afternoon when they are off on the weekend and you are called out to fly on your off day. You would be pissed off especialy when that is almost ongoing with those individuals.
I know that these duckers can get sick notes from their buddies. "No problem i will just call in sick"
I tell you one thing at Airlink, all you need to do is diligently go to work and enjoy it. Maybe one day you are sick - no problem you will have nothing to worry about.
If youre a sickheaded palooka that calls in sick and naais his maatjie then the f
c deserves to fly on his off days. Pitty these cts dont leave.
unfortunately a nice soft policy allows for the sick headed buckin rother duking chancers to take advantage
SO TO THE FEW THAT TOW THE LINE AND DO AN HONEST DAYS WORK WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT
I know that these duckers can get sick notes from their buddies. "No problem i will just call in sick"
I tell you one thing at Airlink, all you need to do is diligently go to work and enjoy it. Maybe one day you are sick - no problem you will have nothing to worry about.
If youre a sickheaded palooka that calls in sick and naais his maatjie then the f
c deserves to fly on his off days. Pitty these cts dont leave.unfortunately a nice soft policy allows for the sick headed buckin rother duking chancers to take advantage
SO TO THE FEW THAT TOW THE LINE AND DO AN HONEST DAYS WORK WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT
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awful truth
Thanx for putting in perspective. The truth is i never call in sick but i have to fly for "other people" i find it anoying. I hope the hardassed policy works.
The sky is a nice place 2B
The truth is i never call in sick but i have to fly for "other people" i find it anoying. I hope the hardassed policy works.The sky is a nice place 2B
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awful truth. Nice of you to participate again. Good argument and I am sure it holds some water. This is just one of those typical cases where the small minority buggers it up for the majority. It does happen in many aspects in life. I do not believe that link has the right to force any policy onto an employee that cleary contradicts the law.
PS: try edit your spelling of "shoos". We might just get the impression that you are that stupid OPS manager.
PS: try edit your spelling of "shoos". We might just get the impression that you are that stupid OPS manager.
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The union is falling flat. The price RF had to pay the previous union shop steward for firing him wrongfully was a bargain. Only 18 months salary for breaking the union's back. I hear the last union shop steward resigned recently(from the company). I feel very sorry for the poor chaps left behind at link when the union fades away completely. jvj will have a field day with them.
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There will be noone left to have a field day with except himself, Maybe roger can fly a few routes in his kingair!!!
And those that fly on their off days, you have just as much of a effect as those calling in sick, you also screwing the system and there are a few at Airlink that just bend over backwards and screw the others, ie calling in sick and flyin on off days are as bad as eachother in my eyes.
BUT, MAYBE people would not call in sick if they were given a nice weekend off, not a 2100 sign off on friday evening and then 0515am sign on on monday, thats not a weekend off in my eyes!!!!
The wheels sound like they already off and its crisis management at the moment!!!!hahaha roger, he who laughs last shall laugh the longest, remember your little statement a few years ago......u.......!!!!!
And those that fly on their off days, you have just as much of a effect as those calling in sick, you also screwing the system and there are a few at Airlink that just bend over backwards and screw the others, ie calling in sick and flyin on off days are as bad as eachother in my eyes.
BUT, MAYBE people would not call in sick if they were given a nice weekend off, not a 2100 sign off on friday evening and then 0515am sign on on monday, thats not a weekend off in my eyes!!!!
The wheels sound like they already off and its crisis management at the moment!!!!hahaha roger, he who laughs last shall laugh the longest, remember your little statement a few years ago......u.......!!!!!
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Think people. It is the great plan. Ps the people off and they will leave. If someone opposed you, work him out. High staff turnover? Yes. Soon only the desperate will remain behind. Yes you might cancel a few flight. Once you have all those out that oppose you, you can do with the rest what you want. Then employ new ones with new employment contracts and conditions. Make new rules and people will be ok with it because its what they know. You might lose a bit of cash in the short run, but in the long run you score all the way. Brilliant!!!!! Certainly not humane but brilliant. Capitalism with a j..............
s the people off and they will leave. If someone opposed you, work him out. High staff turnover? Yes. Soon only the desperate will remain behind. Yes you might cancel a few flight. Once you have all those out that oppose you, you can do with the rest what you want. Then employ new ones with new employment contracts and conditions. Make new rules and people will be ok with it because its what they know. You might lose a bit of cash in the short run, but in the long run you score all the way. Brilliant!!!!! Certainly not humane but brilliant. Capitalism with a j..............
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If youre interested in flying for airlink then send me a pm and i will forward you an email address so that your cv will get attention. This is my initiative. Im doing this to assist those who are trying to apply but they just dont know where to go. I know what its like to knock on a door and get no answers.
Once again this is my initiative so dont slam Airlink be free to slam me.
Looking forward to hear from you
fly4link
ps its not as easy as
but we are fair
If you want you can send your cv to an alternate email adress [email protected] and i will forward this to the right person.
Once again this is my initiative so dont slam Airlink be free to slam me.
Looking forward to hear from you
fly4link
ps its not as easy as
you can identify a fixed wing from a helicopter at least 7 times out of 10 your made....
If you want you can send your cv to an alternate email adress [email protected] and i will forward this to the right person.
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yip.. all true.. the guys staying behind at link are the guys that either no other airline want, or that are not doing an effort to leave.. they just along for the ride... on rodgers back!
Guys, you must make a change! I personally think that the grass is greener on the other side! ank me, Ive been there!!
Remenber what rodger and jvj said a few months ago.. If you dont like all the new "RULES" then leave... well thats what most of the pilots are doing!
for roger.. well.. 3new cadets cost him the same of 1 normal F/O.. more money to spare for his boat in plet that he only uses once a year..
guys you are being scrd bigtime... Everybody else are also looking.. thy handing in your cv at comair.. atleat you will fly something that is worth something in the longrun.. where is a JS41 going to get you..? maby HongKong defence force?? or what about an ERJ? - not even 20 000kg.. worthless in the longrun..
Guys, you must make a change! I personally think that the grass is greener on the other side! ank me, Ive been there!!
Remenber what rodger and jvj said a few months ago.. If you dont like all the new "RULES" then leave... well thats what most of the pilots are doing!
for roger.. well.. 3new cadets cost him the same of 1 normal F/O.. more money to spare for his boat in plet that he only uses once a year..
guys you are being scr
d bigtime... Everybody else are also looking.. thy handing in your cv at comair.. atleat you will fly something that is worth something in the longrun.. where is a JS41 going to get you..? maby HongKong defence force?? or what about an ERJ? - not even 20 000kg.. worthless in the longrun..
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Fly4Link said'I know what its like to knock on a door and get no answer'.
Yeah,so do we.....No ones ever in their friggin` office! When i`ve been in the administrative area and a potential pilot walks in and asks me to direct him to the Chief Pilot ,i turn this colour
with embarrassment. What do i say? "Sorry, i have`nt seen him in his office more than twice in 2 months".(no b.s!)Still, i think thats another RF trait - keep management unavailable to the minions.That way if you don`t hear of any problems then there are no problems! Right? Eer yeah,i suppose.Keep the Chief Pilot flying relentlessly and hey,presto! No problems reported. Well we`ll solve that they said,after the pilots complained-we`ll create an 'assistant chief pilot position'.Guess what? Have`nt seen him in weeks either.
.I`m afraid the good `ol ostrich syndrome is thriving at Airlink.(Look up the definition of 'ostrich"-its all very amusing............)
Yeah,so do we.....No ones ever in their friggin` office! When i`ve been in the administrative area and a potential pilot walks in and asks me to direct him to the Chief Pilot ,i turn this colour
with embarrassment. What do i say? "Sorry, i have`nt seen him in his office more than twice in 2 months".(no b.s!)Still, i think thats another RF trait - keep management unavailable to the minions.That way if you don`t hear of any problems then there are no problems! Right? Eer yeah,i suppose.Keep the Chief Pilot flying relentlessly and hey,presto! No problems reported. Well we`ll solve that they said,after the pilots complained-we`ll create an 'assistant chief pilot position'.Guess what? Have`nt seen him in weeks either..I`m afraid the good `ol ostrich syndrome is thriving at Airlink.(Look up the definition of 'ostrich"-its all very amusing............)
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I sent in my CV - I actually received following statement by the Deputy Chief Pilot (no alternate adress needed fly4link, but if you can get me an interview drop me a PM and I'll resend my details to you...):
Thank you for the interest shown in Airlink.
Your information will be kept on file. Please update your CV every 6 months.
Regards
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Fair enough - at least a standard response and common courtesy, better than nothing.
I've been on permanent standby for the past one and a half years, if the phone rings, I fly - so it would make no difference to me, if I'd suddenly encounter to sacrifice an off-day or two, what a joke. It's a personal thing, if you don't like it, then it might be time for a company change-the only thing that might change a personal situation for the better in this world and keeps us on our balls. Flexibility is the virtue of our time. All within limits of safety and the law however-in the long term the company will not profit by streching the limits as the record will go public one way or the other. But that is another typically African problem: the unability to do long term planning and just focusing at the most possible short term gain for the guys at top. But if that's the way they handle it, they will loose softskills and personal value as well - because then it will just become a stepping stone for better places.
Thank you for the interest shown in Airlink.
Your information will be kept on file. Please update your CV every 6 months.
Regards
...
Fair enough - at least a standard response and common courtesy, better than nothing.
I've been on permanent standby for the past one and a half years, if the phone rings, I fly - so it would make no difference to me, if I'd suddenly encounter to sacrifice an off-day or two, what a joke. It's a personal thing, if you don't like it, then it might be time for a company change-the only thing that might change a personal situation for the better in this world and keeps us on our balls. Flexibility is the virtue of our time. All within limits of safety and the law however-in the long term the company will not profit by streching the limits as the record will go public one way or the other. But that is another typically African problem: the unability to do long term planning and just focusing at the most possible short term gain for the guys at top. But if that's the way they handle it, they will loose softskills and personal value as well - because then it will just become a stepping stone for better places.
nice one