Jetstar roadshow in Jan `08?
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http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/exams/cyber/convexam.htm
The work visa is more interesting. As far I understood Australia removed pilots from the SOL (Skilled occupations list) due to the number of qualified Australian pilots without jobs. Maybe this changed, I don't know.
The work visa is more interesting. As far I understood Australia removed pilots from the SOL (Skilled occupations list) due to the number of qualified Australian pilots without jobs. Maybe this changed, I don't know.
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Jet* will sponsor a 4 year work visa in which time you can apply for permanent residency.
Have to write Australian cpl airlaw and do practical IF test to get license endorsed and then do altp airlaw
Have to write Australian cpl airlaw and do practical IF test to get license endorsed and then do altp airlaw
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SAA training captains on A319 and A340 have been contacted directly by Jetstar, so I would imagine that the roadshow will be nothing like a walk-in Emirates roadshow.
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Jet* coming back you better book a seat
Jet* will return to SA soon and is looking for more pilots.
They will need 200 this year and 200 next year. It would appear for both seats.
Go to web sight or contact Amanda
They will need 200 this year and 200 next year. It would appear for both seats.
Go to web sight or contact Amanda
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This conjecture of sponsorship, Aussie Residency, 457 Visas, etc, is purely that.
Since the change of Government in Australia, I think the big end of town are finding that the Government is no longer kowtowing whenever they tug the fetlock.
Since the change of Government in Australia, I think the big end of town are finding that the Government is no longer kowtowing whenever they tug the fetlock.
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Sorry old mate but I don't have a clue what the hell are you saying. Here in down south we actually speak english!!! Care to try again in plain non kangaroooo english!!! 
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The Oz govt is more responsive to union overtures now, rather than that of big business. Your visa and work permit applications may be a little trickier to obtain, now that the strings are pulled by folks opposed to what they perceive as scab labour.
Better...?
Fetlock, Mr Gasket? Wouldn't that be a forelock? Tugging the fetlock would be akin to a bit of leg pulling, no?
Give it a year or two and we'll all roll up in Oz as refugees in any case.
Better...?
Fetlock, Mr Gasket? Wouldn't that be a forelock? Tugging the fetlock would be akin to a bit of leg pulling, no?
Give it a year or two and we'll all roll up in Oz as refugees in any case.
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No leg pulling intended Mr Twotter.
Another thing our Sud Afrikan cousins might wish to consider prior to acceptance of the JetStar deal is to go over whatever contract is offered with a fine toothed comb.This JetStar lot as well as Qantas management are notorious for open ended contracts that always seem to go in their favour when push comes to shove, go figure.
Another aspect of this offer particularly if you are coming over as a direct entry Captain is the security of your tenure. Check very carefully the fine print purtaining to your seniority.
You might find that in order to keep your command JetStar needs to maintain compounding growth. Will that be possible with the impending economic troubles looming.
Thown into this equation is the fact that there has been a change of Government from far right wing to more middle of the road ,(potentially left of centre even.) As a result some aspects of the Labour Laws in Australia that may have allowed Qantas to unilaterally cancel aspects of the protective Award/Agreement that Mainline pilots operate under, in order to create a panicked pool of pilots to feed any potential growth in Australia have now or at least come Febrary will be all but impossible to use.
So any rhetoric emanating from JetStar managements mouth purtaining to the glorious usurping of Mainline pilots by the JetStar juggernaught is just that.
I'm also told on good authority, that there is a high likelyhood of legal action challenging the legitimacy of JetStar International under the Qantas Sale Act, another potential incumberance to any direct entry Captains keeping their left hand seat.
By all means, come to Australia, just be very careful in checking what is being offered!
Look before you leap ,so to speak.
Another thing our Sud Afrikan cousins might wish to consider prior to acceptance of the JetStar deal is to go over whatever contract is offered with a fine toothed comb.This JetStar lot as well as Qantas management are notorious for open ended contracts that always seem to go in their favour when push comes to shove, go figure.
Another aspect of this offer particularly if you are coming over as a direct entry Captain is the security of your tenure. Check very carefully the fine print purtaining to your seniority.
You might find that in order to keep your command JetStar needs to maintain compounding growth. Will that be possible with the impending economic troubles looming.
Thown into this equation is the fact that there has been a change of Government from far right wing to more middle of the road ,(potentially left of centre even.) As a result some aspects of the Labour Laws in Australia that may have allowed Qantas to unilaterally cancel aspects of the protective Award/Agreement that Mainline pilots operate under, in order to create a panicked pool of pilots to feed any potential growth in Australia have now or at least come Febrary will be all but impossible to use.
So any rhetoric emanating from JetStar managements mouth purtaining to the glorious usurping of Mainline pilots by the JetStar juggernaught is just that.
I'm also told on good authority, that there is a high likelyhood of legal action challenging the legitimacy of JetStar International under the Qantas Sale Act, another potential incumberance to any direct entry Captains keeping their left hand seat.
By all means, come to Australia, just be very careful in checking what is being offered!
Look before you leap ,so to speak.
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Yarpies. Please be assured we Qantas and Jetstar pilots are in a fierce battle with the Qantas group over pay and conditions.
They are testing the waters to see if you guys will take the bad deal. We urge you not to. Better deals are on offer in most other airlines around the world.
Please say no to Jetstar.
They are testing the waters to see if you guys will take the bad deal. We urge you not to. Better deals are on offer in most other airlines around the world.
Please say no to Jetstar.
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I think your plea's are falling on deaf ears. I know im going if i can. I work for one of the lowest paying airlines in SA, if not the lowest. So Jetstar is a better deal. Sure there might be better deals out there but not in a country like OZ.
I only got 2 questions :
1. Where do i SIGN ?
2. Would you like it in BLACK or BLUE ink !
I only got 2 questions :
1. Where do i SIGN ?
2. Would you like it in BLACK or BLUE ink !
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Grant737,
mate let me assure you, myself and my union AIPA will do everything in our power to stop you guys getting a 457 visa. We dont need you the company are basically using people like you as scabs.
We have a new federal government(labour) which will be sympathetic to our problem of scab labour invading Australia.
I am contacting my local member tomorrow to ask why SA's are allowed to take Aussie jobs.
Get ready for a battle Yarpies cause your not wanted in Oz.
Cheers.
mate let me assure you, myself and my union AIPA will do everything in our power to stop you guys getting a 457 visa. We dont need you the company are basically using people like you as scabs.
We have a new federal government(labour) which will be sympathetic to our problem of scab labour invading Australia.
I am contacting my local member tomorrow to ask why SA's are allowed to take Aussie jobs.
Get ready for a battle Yarpies cause your not wanted in Oz.
Cheers.
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How many whining Aussies have taken jobs on ZS aircraft in the past years, with the help of Yarpies?!
The mere fact that you Australians are too lazy to do your own dirty work is indicative of the fact that most SA doctors are practising in your rural areas. I fly with AUS nationals at the moment, geez you lot need to get over your scab trauma.
So, as the gentleman before me said, black or blue ink. The pay in AUS is better than in SA plus we get a visa to stay, no Zuma and no ESKOM!
You need to get used to that!
How many whining Aussies have taken jobs on ZS aircraft in the past years, with the help of Yarpies?!
The mere fact that you Australians are too lazy to do your own dirty work is indicative of the fact that most SA doctors are practising in your rural areas. I fly with AUS nationals at the moment, geez you lot need to get over your scab trauma.
So, as the gentleman before me said, black or blue ink. The pay in AUS is better than in SA plus we get a visa to stay, no Zuma and no ESKOM!
You need to get used to that!
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Gondwala, do you really think that your local labor MP will stop J* from getting SA Pilots...wake up mate your coffee is getting cold.
Let me see If I get this right with Rudd promising to reduce inflation within 5 years he is going to tell Australian companies you are not allowed to recruit SA pilots because you need to pay the Australian Pilots more, that way I can reduce pressure on the wage inflation front.
Let me see If I get this right with Rudd promising to reduce inflation within 5 years he is going to tell Australian companies you are not allowed to recruit SA pilots because you need to pay the Australian Pilots more, that way I can reduce pressure on the wage inflation front.
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Hey Guys, I need to make this quick, got no electricity and only got 5min of battery power left on me laptop 
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Maybe if all the Oz pilots left Cathay and Emirates and came back home you wouldnt NEED us "Yarpies". Never heard of the locals in HK and UAE up in arms about you boys taking their jobs.
gondwalla - guess a lift from the airport is out of the question then.
.Maybe if all the Oz pilots left Cathay and Emirates and came back home you wouldnt NEED us "Yarpies". Never heard of the locals in HK and UAE up in arms about you boys taking their jobs.
gondwalla - guess a lift from the airport is out of the question then.
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YARPIES.....I will let you know what my labour MP says tomorrow about you guys taking Australian jobs.
Infact the Aussie media loves stories like this too!
Guys there is no pilot shortage in Oz just a shortage of people willing to do the job for the money and conditions.
You may want to check the new Jetstar EBA as they are about to introduce a B scale with even worse conditions for you desperadoes.
Infact it will be great to see you mob on third world conditions cause thats what you deserve if you do it.
Rest assured guys you will not be welcomed with open arms by jetstar or qantas pilots.
Think carefully guys your work environment may be very tense.
Infact the Aussie media loves stories like this too!
Guys there is no pilot shortage in Oz just a shortage of people willing to do the job for the money and conditions.
You may want to check the new Jetstar EBA as they are about to introduce a B scale with even worse conditions for you desperadoes.
Infact it will be great to see you mob on third world conditions cause thats what you deserve if you do it.
Rest assured guys you will not be welcomed with open arms by jetstar or qantas pilots.
Think carefully guys your work environment may be very tense.
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I think there is enough for everybody!!!!
Just cause a 200 CPL cant get work because he refuses to start at the bottom is no reason to squash the tide!!!!
MY 2C!!!
Aviation Industry Needs to Tackle Looming Pilot Shortage
Washington - The International Air Transport Association (IATA) warned the world’s airlines of a severe pilot shortage unless industry and government work together to change training and qualification practices.
IATA issued a new estimate that the industry may need 17,000 new pilots annually due to expected industry growth and retirements. "Increasing the retirement age to 65 will help but it can’t be the only solution. It’s time to ring the warning bell. We must re-think pilot training and qualification to further improve safety and increase training capacity,” said Giovanni Bisignani, IATA Director General and CEO. He told the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) International Safety Forum, "the industry is concerned that there are no global standards for training concepts or regulation. Pilot training has not changed in 60 years - we are still ticking boxes with an emphasis on flight hours.”
IATA supports the competency-based approach of multi-crew pilot licensing (MPL) training programmes. Unlike traditional pilot training, MPL focuses from the beginning on training for multi-pilot cockpit working conditions. It also makes better use of simulator technology. Europe was among the first regions to adopt MPL and Australia and China are moving ahead with implementation.
IATA launched the IATA Training and Qualification Initiative (ITQI) to support a global approach to MPL implementation. “Our goal is to increase the pool of candidates and training capacity while improving standards,” said Bisignani. As part of ITQI, IATA will host a database to track the progress of MPL cadets and allow the industry to make training adjustments, if necessary. IATA also called for greater cooperation with governments. In China, IATA is working with the government to develop the syllabus and incorporate MPL into national regulation.
Bisignani also called on government leaders at the Safety Forum to incorporate the IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) into their own regulations. Most recently, Mexico, Costa Rica and Turkey have committed to make use of IOSA. “The list is growing too slowly,” Bisignani said. “There is no cost to government and the results are clear.”
Myself would rather be in a Bizzie above all you moaning heavies
Just cause a 200 CPL cant get work because he refuses to start at the bottom is no reason to squash the tide!!!!
MY 2C!!!
Aviation Industry Needs to Tackle Looming Pilot Shortage
Washington - The International Air Transport Association (IATA) warned the world’s airlines of a severe pilot shortage unless industry and government work together to change training and qualification practices.
IATA issued a new estimate that the industry may need 17,000 new pilots annually due to expected industry growth and retirements. "Increasing the retirement age to 65 will help but it can’t be the only solution. It’s time to ring the warning bell. We must re-think pilot training and qualification to further improve safety and increase training capacity,” said Giovanni Bisignani, IATA Director General and CEO. He told the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) International Safety Forum, "the industry is concerned that there are no global standards for training concepts or regulation. Pilot training has not changed in 60 years - we are still ticking boxes with an emphasis on flight hours.”
IATA supports the competency-based approach of multi-crew pilot licensing (MPL) training programmes. Unlike traditional pilot training, MPL focuses from the beginning on training for multi-pilot cockpit working conditions. It also makes better use of simulator technology. Europe was among the first regions to adopt MPL and Australia and China are moving ahead with implementation.
IATA launched the IATA Training and Qualification Initiative (ITQI) to support a global approach to MPL implementation. “Our goal is to increase the pool of candidates and training capacity while improving standards,” said Bisignani. As part of ITQI, IATA will host a database to track the progress of MPL cadets and allow the industry to make training adjustments, if necessary. IATA also called for greater cooperation with governments. In China, IATA is working with the government to develop the syllabus and incorporate MPL into national regulation.
Bisignani also called on government leaders at the Safety Forum to incorporate the IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) into their own regulations. Most recently, Mexico, Costa Rica and Turkey have committed to make use of IOSA. “The list is growing too slowly,” Bisignani said. “There is no cost to government and the results are clear.”
Myself would rather be in a Bizzie above all you moaning heavies
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gondwalla - Guys there is no pilot shortage in Oz
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...95-951,00.html
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/con...7/s2055765.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/con...7/s2083038.htm