SAX Q400 farming expedition
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SAX Q400 farming expedition
The Beeld reported yesterday that a SAX Dash Q400 taxied off the taxiway at George into the grass and got stuck. Anyone with further info?
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Saw this morning that it's still standing at GRJ, any idea what is going on, I suspect something must have been damaged if they couldn't get it flying up to JNB again...?
In the meantime SAX is using the "Community Airlines" 737-200 in it's place to GRJ...which is actually good for them, having extra capacity and cashing in on "Nationwided" pax.
In the meantime SAX is using the "Community Airlines" 737-200 in it's place to GRJ...which is actually good for them, having extra capacity and cashing in on "Nationwided" pax.
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Nose-wheel steering failure. Bombardier must be pulling their hair out with the Q400. SAS canned them because of all the problems - seems that the problems are ongoing!
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Not related at all...
Infact, there is no real difference between the Nose Wheel Steering System on the Q400 Series versus that of the 300 Series, as well as many others et al.
Nosewheel Steering System (Q400):
The tiller turns the nosewheel up to 70 degrees (60 degrees for 300 Series) either side of centre for low speed taxi. Steering with the rudder pedals turns the nosewheel up to 8 degrees (7 degrees for 300 Series) either side of centre.
Here is also initial proof that SAS eventually and possibly grounded their Q400 fleet due to their own inabilities to properly maintain the Type...
Infact, there is no real difference between the Nose Wheel Steering System on the Q400 Series versus that of the 300 Series, as well as many others et al.
Nosewheel Steering System (Q400):
The tiller turns the nosewheel up to 70 degrees (60 degrees for 300 Series) either side of centre for low speed taxi. Steering with the rudder pedals turns the nosewheel up to 8 degrees (7 degrees for 300 Series) either side of centre.
Here is also initial proof that SAS eventually and possibly grounded their Q400 fleet due to their own inabilities to properly maintain the Type...
Preliminary Investigation Report - SAS DHC8-Q400 LN-RDI Accident
Published by Michael November 4th, 2007 in Aviation Safety.
Denmarks Accident Investigation Board reported that the landing gear accident of SAS Dash 8 - Q400 LN-RDI at 27.10.2007 in Copenhagen was caused by a piece of rubber O-Ring trapped in the landing gear, preventing it from extending accurately.
This cause is not related to the two previous accidents which occurred in September 2007. According to the preliminary investigation report, this accident might have happened because of a fault by maintenance personnel and not because of a possible design fault of Bombardiers Q400.
Summary
During the examination of the retraction/extension actuator assembly from the right main landing gear of the occurrence aircraft, an O-Ring was found blocking the orifice in the restrictor valve.
The blocked orifice within the actuator assembly prevented the normal extension of the right main landing gear.
The O-Ring was similar to that O-Ring for the door solenoid sequence valve (SSV). The only component in the landing gear system that incorporated this O-Ring was the SSV.
An SSV on the right main landing gear system had been replaced on 16 October 2007.
In the past occurrences, O-Rings (situated adjacent to the filter) from the SSVīs are not known to have migrated into the landing gear hydraulic system.
The O-ring found blocking the right main landing gear actuator restrictor valve, was from the SSV that was previously installed on the occurrence aircraft.
The rogue O-Ring could not have traveled from the SSV to its final location in the right main landing gear retraction/extension actuator restrictor valve.
The MSV of the right main landing gear was replaced on 22 October 2007.
According to the maintenance records, the replacement MSV, was initially configured for installation into the nose landing gear hydraulic system. Prior to installation on the occurrence aircraft, the supplied MSV was reconfigured by maintenance personnel. To make it compatible with the installation requirements for the main landing gear, the unions from the replaced MSV were used.
During the replacement of the MSV, the rogue O-Ring could have unknowingly been transferred from one side of the MSV to the other side by maintenance personnel.
Following a possible transfer of the O-Ring, it could travel through the hydraulic lines towards the main landing gear retraction/extension actuator restrictor valve causing the blockage of the valve.
Published by Michael November 4th, 2007 in Aviation Safety.
Denmarks Accident Investigation Board reported that the landing gear accident of SAS Dash 8 - Q400 LN-RDI at 27.10.2007 in Copenhagen was caused by a piece of rubber O-Ring trapped in the landing gear, preventing it from extending accurately.
This cause is not related to the two previous accidents which occurred in September 2007. According to the preliminary investigation report, this accident might have happened because of a fault by maintenance personnel and not because of a possible design fault of Bombardiers Q400.
Summary
During the examination of the retraction/extension actuator assembly from the right main landing gear of the occurrence aircraft, an O-Ring was found blocking the orifice in the restrictor valve.
The blocked orifice within the actuator assembly prevented the normal extension of the right main landing gear.
The O-Ring was similar to that O-Ring for the door solenoid sequence valve (SSV). The only component in the landing gear system that incorporated this O-Ring was the SSV.
An SSV on the right main landing gear system had been replaced on 16 October 2007.
In the past occurrences, O-Rings (situated adjacent to the filter) from the SSVīs are not known to have migrated into the landing gear hydraulic system.
The O-ring found blocking the right main landing gear actuator restrictor valve, was from the SSV that was previously installed on the occurrence aircraft.
The rogue O-Ring could not have traveled from the SSV to its final location in the right main landing gear retraction/extension actuator restrictor valve.
The MSV of the right main landing gear was replaced on 22 October 2007.
According to the maintenance records, the replacement MSV, was initially configured for installation into the nose landing gear hydraulic system. Prior to installation on the occurrence aircraft, the supplied MSV was reconfigured by maintenance personnel. To make it compatible with the installation requirements for the main landing gear, the unions from the replaced MSV were used.
During the replacement of the MSV, the rogue O-Ring could have unknowingly been transferred from one side of the MSV to the other side by maintenance personnel.
Following a possible transfer of the O-Ring, it could travel through the hydraulic lines towards the main landing gear retraction/extension actuator restrictor valve causing the blockage of the valve.
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Originally Posted by SAASFO
Can anyone confirm that this was a landing gear related failure?
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Ever the expert...
It is possible (not just by luck), when landing the Q400 at less than one ton below MLW (and at George), to have the aircraft come to a complete stop 2/3 down the runway by using Discing only.
Been there and seen it ten's of times
It is possible (not just by luck), when landing the Q400 at less than one ton below MLW (and at George), to have the aircraft come to a complete stop 2/3 down the runway by using Discing only.
Been there and seen it ten's of times
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aircraft come to a complete stop 2/3 down the runway by using Discing only
Yeah, a few yrs since I flew things with unducted fans, except choppers and tail draggers.
I was commenting on the fact that if that deep sea Canadian trawler seems to have NO brakes on a 20 deg day, what do they do in the deep European winters?
And please guys, NOT a dig at the crew involved, I know how easy it is to sit in the pub with loads of lagers and comment.
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What they did was they took the firetruck and its hose and attempted to pull it out. The hose is rubber and it stretched, then when the aircraft snapped back onto the run way the hose being stretched pulled the aircraft into the fire truck damaging the pressurised hull.
It will most likely be flown to JNB unpressurised.
The side wheel went off and the front set of wheels got stuck behind a runway/taxi way light.
It will most likely be flown to JNB unpressurised.
The side wheel went off and the front set of wheels got stuck behind a runway/taxi way light.
