SACAA audit failure
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Why should they care? SAA hardly flies into Europe anymore. They are "expanding" into Africa.....
These guys long ago realised, THEY CAN DO NO WRONG ! And now they are making hay whilst the sun shines. Just look at any African scenario where the outside world is involved. They have seen that they can do what the hell ever they like, without the outside world doing anything (nasty, like sanctions etc) to them! Now for some time already they have been capitalising on this mindset. It's a free for all, if you have the one and only important-'criterion'!
These guys long ago realised, THEY CAN DO NO WRONG ! And now they are making hay whilst the sun shines. Just look at any African scenario where the outside world is involved. They have seen that they can do what the hell ever they like, without the outside world doing anything (nasty, like sanctions etc) to them! Now for some time already they have been capitalising on this mindset. It's a free for all, if you have the one and only important-'criterion'!
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Why not???
That wouldn't be the 'venerable' DM, who works for RF would it be? But then again, why not??? Nothing ethically wrong there for RF. He's a business man.....
Not a criminal offence, therefore you CAN do it! (In Africa that is)
Not a criminal offence, therefore you CAN do it! (In Africa that is)
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Article on the subject from African Pilot
CAA Media Statement - FAA audit results
2 November 2007
"The South African Civil Aviation Authority would like to confirm that the FAA audit final report has not been released. The rumours about the report being released are both false and malicious and can only harm the reputation of South Africa."
African Pilot’s comment
It has heard through reliable sources that the SA CAA has not passed the USA Federal Aviation Administration audit and this appears to be the reason why its communications department is not willing to divulge information to the media. There is no doubt that if the SA CAA had passed the FAA audit this fact would have been made public already. Therefore the above statement is a load of rubbish. If the SA CAA has failed the audit process, it must own up, because it cannot hide this fact for ever, and the aviation industry needs to know.
If the case is one of failure, then South African aviation is in for a very difficult future, as we see aviation in our country reduced to the level of most of the remainder of Africa. In order to rescue this situation and convince the SA CAA that certain management styles need to change, the industry working group must be taken seriously. Although A/P believes that the present CEO Jakes Myeza has been trying his best to make an A1 CAA, there is no doubt that certain managers within the SA CAA regulatory section are deliberately undermining his and other senior managers’ authority.
If Civil Aviation is to survive in South Africa, we all need to become involved and document the irregularities that are taking place, in order to rid the SA CAA of ‘short sighted’ staff members who intend to destroy aviation in South Africa. The problem really boils down to certain managers who have been appointed into positions that clearly they are not capable of commanding, due to their lack of knowledge on aviation matters.
CAA Media Statement - FAA audit results
2 November 2007
"The South African Civil Aviation Authority would like to confirm that the FAA audit final report has not been released. The rumours about the report being released are both false and malicious and can only harm the reputation of South Africa."
African Pilot’s comment
It has heard through reliable sources that the SA CAA has not passed the USA Federal Aviation Administration audit and this appears to be the reason why its communications department is not willing to divulge information to the media. There is no doubt that if the SA CAA had passed the FAA audit this fact would have been made public already. Therefore the above statement is a load of rubbish. If the SA CAA has failed the audit process, it must own up, because it cannot hide this fact for ever, and the aviation industry needs to know.
If the case is one of failure, then South African aviation is in for a very difficult future, as we see aviation in our country reduced to the level of most of the remainder of Africa. In order to rescue this situation and convince the SA CAA that certain management styles need to change, the industry working group must be taken seriously. Although A/P believes that the present CEO Jakes Myeza has been trying his best to make an A1 CAA, there is no doubt that certain managers within the SA CAA regulatory section are deliberately undermining his and other senior managers’ authority.
If Civil Aviation is to survive in South Africa, we all need to become involved and document the irregularities that are taking place, in order to rid the SA CAA of ‘short sighted’ staff members who intend to destroy aviation in South Africa. The problem really boils down to certain managers who have been appointed into positions that clearly they are not capable of commanding, due to their lack of knowledge on aviation matters.
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This is classic:
It didn't stop you from making statements about Nationwide, nor did you care if it would harm them.... 
"The South African Civil Aviation Authority would like to confirm that the FAA audit final report has not been released. The rumours about the report being released are both false and malicious and can only harm the reputation of South Africa."
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Sorry to change the subject but I am little bit worried. Do you think that with the current situation with SACAA (audit failure, bad management, negatives perspectives) is still good idea to start a CPL course in S.A?
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Do you think that with the current situation with SACAA (audit failure, bad management, negatives perspectives) is still good idea to start a CPL course in S.A?rgds
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chileno777, dont panic just yet. An audit failure does not necessarily imply an immediate ban in FAA airspace, it may still be a case of "get your house in order or else..." Hopefully the incumbent management (and politicians even more so) will wake up to the realities of what this can mean.
Lets just hope.
Lets just hope.
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JvJ wrote "
Just heard that 2/3rds of the CPL course will now be conducted in Zulu to comply with Equity Legislation that is being tabled by the South African Parliment."
Nice wind-up attempt once more JvJ, but truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction! Thats where the FAA and ICAO problem's for SACAA first began, when the then Min of Transport (believe it was Mufamadi) decided the CAR's must be published, in accordance with the constitution, in two of the official languages. He wanted English and Zulu instead of Afrikaans. Problem was, none of the SA black languages contain the technical words necessary to achieve this and so the "problem" was just left and CAR's were not signed into effect. Took the FAA to discover this and it opened the can of worms which effects are still being felt today.
Just heard that 2/3rds of the CPL course will now be conducted in Zulu to comply with Equity Legislation that is being tabled by the South African Parliment."
Nice wind-up attempt once more JvJ, but truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction! Thats where the FAA and ICAO problem's for SACAA first began, when the then Min of Transport (believe it was Mufamadi) decided the CAR's must be published, in accordance with the constitution, in two of the official languages. He wanted English and Zulu instead of Afrikaans. Problem was, none of the SA black languages contain the technical words necessary to achieve this and so the "problem" was just left and CAR's were not signed into effect. Took the FAA to discover this and it opened the can of worms which effects are still being felt today.
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nowhere near as "gloomy" as was made out to be...well done CAA
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i am sympathetic to those writers who have their doubts about the SACAA. but I think that the last mentioned report speaks for itself and provides reason to be hopeful. Thank God ! Well...chin chin
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I just read the letter from Mr. Jordaan regarding the SACAA.
It is amazing that the previous posters are so accepting of a letter written by the CEO of the organisation which was audited.
I would rather read the findings of the FAA who conducted the audit, or are you happy to be told what to believe.
Just seems strange how negative the earlier postings were and now suddenly the man in charge of that same organisation says 'everything is ok' so therefore suddenly it is!
It is amazing that the previous posters are so accepting of a letter written by the CEO of the organisation which was audited.
I would rather read the findings of the FAA who conducted the audit, or are you happy to be told what to believe.
Just seems strange how negative the earlier postings were and now suddenly the man in charge of that same organisation says 'everything is ok' so therefore suddenly it is!
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If you actually did this, you may recall that the full report will be released in March. Although this is preliminary information, it is a welcome change from the direction everyone feared things were going. So, in the meantime, let's just enjoy the moment, OK?
I just read the letter from Mr. Jordaan regarding the SACAA.
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OK Rockpecker, if it makes you feel better when the man in charge of the organisation so many thought was going in the wrong direction tells you its all ok, then fine.
You said this, 'Although this is preliminary information, it is a welcome change from the direction everyone feared things were going.'
What made you all fear things were going in the wrong direction in the first place, probably stories and things we all heard that were happening.
I was merely saying dont take everything the man in charge of the organisation in question says as gospel, do you think he was going to report bad news?
You said this, 'Although this is preliminary information, it is a welcome change from the direction everyone feared things were going.'
What made you all fear things were going in the wrong direction in the first place, probably stories and things we all heard that were happening.
I was merely saying dont take everything the man in charge of the organisation in question says as gospel, do you think he was going to report bad news?
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Southcoast, you and I have disagreed in the past but this time I must agree with you. In any case it has taken this long to release an interim report because they (the CAA) did initially fall short and were then given 45 days to straighten out or there would've been serious repercussions. The only good news in my opinion is they managed the 45 day deadline satisfactorily for a change! Second times a charm!
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south coast, Jamex,
You are both right, I have to agree. No question about it. We all know what the true state of affairs with the incumbent authority is, and more importantly, the current political climate regarding skills and retaining those skills, despite the political incorrectness of those who have them. I think for most people this audit's outcome was a foregone conclusion, so this message sparked the first indication of something possibly less gloomy. In my world, (if you look at the location I come from), I try to look for silver linings, and this looked like one. I still hope it is one. We can still sure as hell hope, cant we?
You are both right, I have to agree. No question about it. We all know what the true state of affairs with the incumbent authority is, and more importantly, the current political climate regarding skills and retaining those skills, despite the political incorrectness of those who have them. I think for most people this audit's outcome was a foregone conclusion, so this message sparked the first indication of something possibly less gloomy. In my world, (if you look at the location I come from), I try to look for silver linings, and this looked like one. I still hope it is one. We can still sure as hell hope, cant we?