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Pilotd,
next in the sequence will be an invitation for an interview either in Lagos or London,
Interview Day 1,
Is an introduction of the company either by the Chief Pilot or some one from HR....then it is a panel interview, A pilot,HR staff and a Human Factors specialist,suggest you read the Ace Pilot,it is all very relaxed they do their best to relax you,no Arsto Physic questions....then a technical quiz 50 questions all from the Ace Tech Pilot Book, YOU COULD DO QUIZ FIRST BEFORE,INTERVIEW IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR GIVEN TIME ON THE DAY.
If you get through all that,you will be invited for a Sim assess in the UK Gatwick ,Gecat was used in past,they now use Alteon. Sim is 737 CLASSIC EFIS,some Pilots in the past got the 767
If you get through that you are offered a Job,with a course date..... from start to finish this process should take about a month !!!!,if not less given that they are looking for Pilots.
GOOD LUCK.....you are BONDED IF YOU ARE NOT TYPE RATED, 3 YEAR BOND.
next in the sequence will be an invitation for an interview either in Lagos or London,
Interview Day 1,
Is an introduction of the company either by the Chief Pilot or some one from HR....then it is a panel interview, A pilot,HR staff and a Human Factors specialist,suggest you read the Ace Pilot,it is all very relaxed they do their best to relax you,no Arsto Physic questions....then a technical quiz 50 questions all from the Ace Tech Pilot Book, YOU COULD DO QUIZ FIRST BEFORE,INTERVIEW IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR GIVEN TIME ON THE DAY.
If you get through all that,you will be invited for a Sim assess in the UK Gatwick ,Gecat was used in past,they now use Alteon. Sim is 737 CLASSIC EFIS,some Pilots in the past got the 767
If you get through that you are offered a Job,with a course date..... from start to finish this process should take about a month !!!!,if not less given that they are looking for Pilots.
GOOD LUCK.....you are BONDED IF YOU ARE NOT TYPE RATED, 3 YEAR BOND.
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There are two observations i have about the Low time that VK now advertises.
1. Initially, they had advertised ATP with 3000 hours for first officer.
"Nigeria needs the new generation of Pilots . BA still have cadets,who come out with a frozen JAR ATPL 200 hours....and get into the right hand seat of A jet airplane with an MCC under their belt and some multi engine jet Sim time at
age 19-24 i think......look at what is happening in India....so not too low,that thought process is OUT SIR".
If i understand you clearly Mj43, you're now and advocate for whats applicable world-wide or at least in the immediate western world?
This was applicable before the commencement of VK operations. Why then was there no pressing reason to have what is now applicable in the beginning?
If i remember clearly, there was a lot of noise as to what calibre of pilots Vk got at the time and what is Vk getting now?
I have come to realise that high time does not make a pilot, but what the pilot is capable of handling when "Sh*t hits the fan".
We have for years simply just appointed people based on personal bias and and the fact that they either belonged to a certain camp or not.
A lot of people did not gain Vk employment initially because some of us (Nigerians) held on to this fine 3000 hour line like the bible itself!
What is now consoling is that the Oyinbos have now come to set things straight since we cant!
2.As for Oom Kaspaas,
I think you should remain in Argentina shoveling sh*t, thats where you belong mate!
Like Mj says, maybe you need to keep your trap shut if you have nothing constructive to say, ding-wit!
1. Initially, they had advertised ATP with 3000 hours for first officer.
"Nigeria needs the new generation of Pilots . BA still have cadets,who come out with a frozen JAR ATPL 200 hours....and get into the right hand seat of A jet airplane with an MCC under their belt and some multi engine jet Sim time at
age 19-24 i think......look at what is happening in India....so not too low,that thought process is OUT SIR".
If i understand you clearly Mj43, you're now and advocate for whats applicable world-wide or at least in the immediate western world?
This was applicable before the commencement of VK operations. Why then was there no pressing reason to have what is now applicable in the beginning?
If i remember clearly, there was a lot of noise as to what calibre of pilots Vk got at the time and what is Vk getting now?
I have come to realise that high time does not make a pilot, but what the pilot is capable of handling when "Sh*t hits the fan".
We have for years simply just appointed people based on personal bias and and the fact that they either belonged to a certain camp or not.
A lot of people did not gain Vk employment initially because some of us (Nigerians) held on to this fine 3000 hour line like the bible itself!
What is now consoling is that the Oyinbos have now come to set things straight since we cant!
2.As for Oom Kaspaas,
I think you should remain in Argentina shoveling sh*t, thats where you belong mate!
Like Mj says, maybe you need to keep your trap shut if you have nothing constructive to say, ding-wit!
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LJT,
A comment that I can agree on.
Shortly after 911 a new market surfaced in aviation: Training of self sponsored pilots. New TRTOs saw daylight all over the world, and they all went for the guys and girls who either had saved around USD 20 to 30k or who could convince mama and papa to mortgage the house in order for the young pilot to obtain a type rating.
Before that, some airlines had run a cadet scheme, aka Ab-Initio training, where they took them "off the street", put them through initial training for a frozen ATPL and a medium jet type rating. I have spent time in the cockpit with several of them. 200 hrs + and keen. I cannot say I remember one who did not do a good job.
But back to the self sponsored guys. This trend brought a lot of low time pilots on to the market. Many of them had to continue paying for line training on revenue flight, which makes me and many others
. But the key here is that these low timers can do a good job providing they have been part of a training program from day 1 geared for the right hand seat of a medium size jet, and that socalled high timers do not necessarily perform better than colleagues with not so many hours in the logbook. There is no quality assurance in a lot of flying hours 
I have come to realise that high time does not make a pilot, but what the pilot is capable of handling when "Sh*t hits the fan".
We have for years simply just appointed people based on personal bias and and the fact that they either belonged to a certain camp or not.
We have for years simply just appointed people based on personal bias and and the fact that they either belonged to a certain camp or not.
Shortly after 911 a new market surfaced in aviation: Training of self sponsored pilots. New TRTOs saw daylight all over the world, and they all went for the guys and girls who either had saved around USD 20 to 30k or who could convince mama and papa to mortgage the house in order for the young pilot to obtain a type rating.
Before that, some airlines had run a cadet scheme, aka Ab-Initio training, where they took them "off the street", put them through initial training for a frozen ATPL and a medium jet type rating. I have spent time in the cockpit with several of them. 200 hrs + and keen. I cannot say I remember one who did not do a good job.
But back to the self sponsored guys. This trend brought a lot of low time pilots on to the market. Many of them had to continue paying for line training on revenue flight, which makes me and many others
. But the key here is that these low timers can do a good job providing they have been part of a training program from day 1 geared for the right hand seat of a medium size jet, and that socalled high timers do not necessarily perform better than colleagues with not so many hours in the logbook. There is no quality assurance in a lot of flying hours
LJT I believe that the early rationale behind the high hours requirement was that the first intakes of joiners were likely to provide the future management pilots for the expanding airline therefore greater experience was sought. I seem to recall that it was always intended that this requirement would lessen as the airline reached maturity.
It made sense to me as a non flyer to do things this way, and my opinion hasn't changed with the passing of time.
It made sense to me as a non flyer to do things this way, and my opinion hasn't changed with the passing of time.
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Hello Sn,
I need you to understand where I'm coming from.
The point here has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the Airline needed high time pilots to end up as management or not.
If that were the case? Where are all the so called high time pilots initially employed by Vk now?
Only a handful of them remain there as we speak.
My problem is, for starters, we knew then what we know now and thats my beef!
There were lots of pilots who had the time but no ATP's who didn't get in because of the high handedness of our brothers, and this is fact, not fiction!
We know whats right, but never do it! Instead, we go chasing after shadows of our so called enemies, like we are actually important enough to have enemies for real?
Has it ever occurred to most of us that flying airplanes does not make us any different from, or any smarter than those riding in the back seats?
Infact, it is my take that those at the rear, do have cause to feel special, cos they're ferried by the most qualified and specialized flying idiots who cant make a dime outside the cockpit.
This is not personal, but i must stress that we all know whats right, but never do it, when sh*t hits, we all say, "Oooo, I knew what the solution could have been"?
Please take note, that my comments are not directed specifically at any one person, but the lot of us (Nigerians) and it certainly includes me!
I need you to understand where I'm coming from.
The point here has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the Airline needed high time pilots to end up as management or not.
If that were the case? Where are all the so called high time pilots initially employed by Vk now?
Only a handful of them remain there as we speak.
My problem is, for starters, we knew then what we know now and thats my beef!
There were lots of pilots who had the time but no ATP's who didn't get in because of the high handedness of our brothers, and this is fact, not fiction!
We know whats right, but never do it! Instead, we go chasing after shadows of our so called enemies, like we are actually important enough to have enemies for real?
Has it ever occurred to most of us that flying airplanes does not make us any different from, or any smarter than those riding in the back seats?
Infact, it is my take that those at the rear, do have cause to feel special, cos they're ferried by the most qualified and specialized flying idiots who cant make a dime outside the cockpit.
This is not personal, but i must stress that we all know whats right, but never do it, when sh*t hits, we all say, "Oooo, I knew what the solution could have been"?
Please take note, that my comments are not directed specifically at any one person, but the lot of us (Nigerians) and it certainly includes me!
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LJT,
Surely Not,has taken the reply out of my mouth,he got to you before i did.
What SN puts down was,the rationale of the VK Ops management at the start of VK, for the B733,not all the start up Pilots would end up in Management of the Airline. i am still an advocate of all things right....
The high time jet pilots with NO ATP,was a spill off,of the old WT days when it was the Airline who sponsored your ATP,which for some pilots was a money making venture.....WT is not endorsed in the License (ATP) but the pilots name......the VK requirement at the begining was an ATP AMONGST other requirements.....a fair number of the high time jet pilots had no ATP and expected to be interviewed......no sir,Dont have an ATP, HR responded.
it is nice to see now that many just pilots, have sponsored their ATP,when they realised that not having one,was the obstacle to a desired job !!!!
Remember the Frozen ATP is the desired route now for many a bugging Pilot.
As to what Nigerians want or dont want ....is a conversation for another day.
Surely Not,has taken the reply out of my mouth,he got to you before i did.
What SN puts down was,the rationale of the VK Ops management at the start of VK, for the B733,not all the start up Pilots would end up in Management of the Airline. i am still an advocate of all things right....
The high time jet pilots with NO ATP,was a spill off,of the old WT days when it was the Airline who sponsored your ATP,which for some pilots was a money making venture.....WT is not endorsed in the License (ATP) but the pilots name......the VK requirement at the begining was an ATP AMONGST other requirements.....a fair number of the high time jet pilots had no ATP and expected to be interviewed......no sir,Dont have an ATP, HR responded.
it is nice to see now that many just pilots, have sponsored their ATP,when they realised that not having one,was the obstacle to a desired job !!!!
Remember the Frozen ATP is the desired route now for many a bugging Pilot.
As to what Nigerians want or dont want ....is a conversation for another day.
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It should not take long VK needs youBut they have no say in the immgration process..... i am sure they will have done all that need be done as
regards filing etc....worse guess they will get you in on business visa,get you flying while they follow up on the applied for work permit.... something to that effect,the process is constantly changing though towards perfection they say!!!!
But they have no say in the immgration process..... i am sure they will have done all that need be done asregards filing etc....worse guess they will get you in on business visa,get you flying while they follow up on the applied for work permit.... something to that effect,the process is constantly changing though towards perfection they say!!!!
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Hotmj43,
Having said that, i'm glad you could bring up some clarification on that. Various people had asked in the past and even recently, and i though i'd throw it open for you to respond to since you may have inside knowledge of the procedures involved. Thanks.
At least those in doubt can see for themselves what the answers are and not think there is/was any hidden agenda.
My ten cents.
Cheers.
Having said that, i'm glad you could bring up some clarification on that. Various people had asked in the past and even recently, and i though i'd throw it open for you to respond to since you may have inside knowledge of the procedures involved. Thanks.
At least those in doubt can see for themselves what the answers are and not think there is/was any hidden agenda.
My ten cents.
Cheers.
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Thanks LJT.......Well ,i hope it will be seen in the light of clarification of this matter.
i would have prefered dollars as opposed too Cents.... Naira would have been excellent though
i would have prefered dollars as opposed too Cents.... Naira would have been excellent though
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Hi gentlemen,
congratulations to all those called for the next phase with virgin nigeria. I would appreciate if someone knows something about their requirements to post it. Thank you in advance and good luck.
congratulations to all those called for the next phase with virgin nigeria. I would appreciate if someone knows something about their requirements to post it. Thank you in advance and good luck.
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hi guys
to all that got invited for an interview we have to pay our own travel cost to London or Nigeria which i think is BS as a major airline like Virgin i think the least thaey can do is provide discounted tickets.
to all that got invited for an interview we have to pay our own travel cost to London or Nigeria which i think is BS as a major airline like Virgin i think the least thaey can do is provide discounted tickets.
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I too have been invited to the interview, and will probably be attending as I should be in London at the time.
Few questions to the other guys who may know more.
Should you make it through the first stage after paying for flights etc. The return sim assesment, will I have to pay for that as well?
Is the jump straight on to the 737 co jo to much of a jump from a caravan? Obviously the size is hugely different but will the guy in the left seat look at you the same way as maybe somebody with a few hundred twin turbine hours?
And Lagos, To live there? Descent places to stay? Im sure I have visited worse, but not for three years....
Any input would be great!
Cheers, and good luck to the others who have been invited for the interview.
Few questions to the other guys who may know more.
Should you make it through the first stage after paying for flights etc. The return sim assesment, will I have to pay for that as well?
Is the jump straight on to the 737 co jo to much of a jump from a caravan? Obviously the size is hugely different but will the guy in the left seat look at you the same way as maybe somebody with a few hundred twin turbine hours?
And Lagos, To live there? Descent places to stay? Im sure I have visited worse, but not for three years....
Any input would be great!
Cheers, and good luck to the others who have been invited for the interview.
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QUOTE FAKAWI:" In my experience companies that play cheap from day one ie. travel to interviews etc. are not really worth working for."
In my experience new companies that spend a lot of money lavishly dont last either,and are not worth working for as well.
If you are serious about joining,why not invest?
would you say Emirates is not worth working for?
I paid my way to dubai myself when i went for thier interview.
QUOTE WINGS23 "Is the jump straight on to the 737 co jo to much of a jump from a caravan? Obviously the size is hugely different but will the guy in the left seat look at you the same way as maybe somebody with a few hundred twin turbine hours?
Dont worry how the guy in the left seat feels about you, CRM solved that problem already.What should concern you is how you fell about yourself,nothing comes easy,so if you are determined its not an issue.
All i can say we where not born flying jets!
And Lagos, To live there? Descent places to stay? Im sure I have visited worse, but not for three years....
Any input would be great!"
if you can hack j'burg, lagos is a piece of cake
In my experience new companies that spend a lot of money lavishly dont last either,and are not worth working for as well.
If you are serious about joining,why not invest?
would you say Emirates is not worth working for?
I paid my way to dubai myself when i went for thier interview.
QUOTE WINGS23 "Is the jump straight on to the 737 co jo to much of a jump from a caravan? Obviously the size is hugely different but will the guy in the left seat look at you the same way as maybe somebody with a few hundred twin turbine hours?
Dont worry how the guy in the left seat feels about you, CRM solved that problem already.What should concern you is how you fell about yourself,nothing comes easy,so if you are determined its not an issue.
All i can say we where not born flying jets!
And Lagos, To live there? Descent places to stay? Im sure I have visited worse, but not for three years....
Any input would be great!"
if you can hack j'burg, lagos is a piece of cake
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You have to pay your flight for the interview.
It's a first selection of candidates, those who don't want to pay are probably not the more motivated to join.
If you pass, the first stage, you're invited to the Sim and Psychometric test.
For the second stage, at the time I went there, the ticket was refunded.
It's a first selection of candidates, those who don't want to pay are probably not the more motivated to join.
If you pass, the first stage, you're invited to the Sim and Psychometric test.
For the second stage, at the time I went there, the ticket was refunded.