ATR Coversion, with career prospect
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1981, completely agree with your attitude. my 'rich daddy' sponsored my B200 rating fresh out of comm, i got the hours, the experience and cash to pay him back albeit on a 3 month somali contract.
You self righteous critics need to get off your high horses and come mix it with us lowly 1500 hour types. all very well having your highly admirable aviation ethics. if paying for my rating is what it takes to get that coveted jet as opposed to waiting in line indefinitely and whingeing till blue in the face about the rich daddy types screwing aviation up for everyone else i won't think twice about paying for it.
Thats my opinion, I've had my rant, tear me apart, bring on all the thinly veiled threats of aviation being a small place.
You self righteous critics need to get off your high horses and come mix it with us lowly 1500 hour types. all very well having your highly admirable aviation ethics. if paying for my rating is what it takes to get that coveted jet as opposed to waiting in line indefinitely and whingeing till blue in the face about the rich daddy types screwing aviation up for everyone else i won't think twice about paying for it.
Thats my opinion, I've had my rant, tear me apart, bring on all the thinly veiled threats of aviation being a small place.
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Your lack of scruples and integrity is your own problem.
It's unfortunate that it impacts on those around you who may not have a rich daddy to pay for their ratings and are now more disadvantaged because of your actions.
It's unfortunate that it impacts on those around you who may not have a rich daddy to pay for their ratings and are now more disadvantaged because of your actions.
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SWT, Define short term! If by paying for a B200 conversion has got you to the point in your career where you are now more marketable for the bigger airline/corporate positions available, I would say, Paying for you B200 conversion was in Actual fact planning for the long term. You can continue going on and on and on....about how the positions will go to the pilots who can afford to pay for their convesions, and not the more 'deserving' experienced pilots. If they have failed to notice the trend in the aviation industry in this regard, Its there own fault!!!!Being more experienced, surely they have made some money out of flying themselve's, or maybe they have got the experience by flying for minimal financial return, I think we spoke about that earlier in this thread. That is in actual fact worse than paying for a conversion, Beacause the pilots already working in the contract industry's salary will reduce as a result of this. I dont understand how the older more experienced pilots can complain about this whole 'paying for the conversion' rubbish, When in actual fact it does not effect you.
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It's about the gradual and insidious erosion of terms and conditions. By acquiescing to these terms to get a job you are eroding the conditions for all aircrew as it becomes the norm. No doubt you'll be the first to complain when some rich kid gets your job because he's prepared to pay for the hours where you would like to earn a salary.
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Pity:: with a paid for rating, still comes f*@ll experience, decision making skills or decent risk management.
Paying to fill a seat for a CP who would rather go for the cheapest option, might get you the bragging rights you drooled over for so long, but it still makes you the clown in the seat that paid money to be there - not earned it.
With this attitude, I sincerely hope you never ever complain about quota players in sport, or the buddy buddy nature of SA politcs - you are exactly the same.
Just a lightie that paid for his seat.
Paying to fill a seat for a CP who would rather go for the cheapest option, might get you the bragging rights you drooled over for so long, but it still makes you the clown in the seat that paid money to be there - not earned it.
With this attitude, I sincerely hope you never ever complain about quota players in sport, or the buddy buddy nature of SA politcs - you are exactly the same.
Just a lightie that paid for his seat.
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work for your seat, and build experience while you are gettting there. Shortcuts will leave you short changed, in the long run.
When hiring pilots, I have always rather looked for the guy with a few hundred PIC hours, even if they are on pistons, than what I take a guy with 1000 hours in the right hand seat of a King Air. PIC time is what will keep you alive when the shart hits the fan, not some fancy right hand seat rating.
But flying is anyway no longer about learning and fililng the bags with experience, its all about the chicks, glamour and bragging rights --- right?
When hiring pilots, I have always rather looked for the guy with a few hundred PIC hours, even if they are on pistons, than what I take a guy with 1000 hours in the right hand seat of a King Air. PIC time is what will keep you alive when the shart hits the fan, not some fancy right hand seat rating.
But flying is anyway no longer about learning and fililng the bags with experience, its all about the chicks, glamour and bragging rights --- right?
