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Old 11th Aug 2007, 14:07
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Comair purchase B777

I heard that Comair has purchased a B777. Can anybody confirm this? I'm sure it will get Vernon's attention
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Not in this lifetime much is the pity!
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Reminds me very much of a rumour I heard about this time last year that Kulula were "leasing" a BA 777 for use on the Gatwick run in competition to Vernons boys,might it just be a similar spin?Highly doubt its true though......
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Mmmm isn't it salary negotiation time again? Well at least they have progressed from a 767 to a 777 as the proverbial carrot.
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What a 777, together with 3 x B737-300s??

Ja likely one that?

Anyone know if Sker is on the course??
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Heard from the Comair tech rep they are off to the good old USA to have a look at some B737-400's

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Yes 737-400 makes sense, it has the right amount of seats It will definitely get Mango's attention. Specially after Nico Bezuidenhout's complimentary tickets to Mr Novik?
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Yes 737-400 makes sense, it has the right amount of seats It will definitely get Mango's attention. Specially after Nico Bezuidenhout's complimentary tickets to Mr Novik?
I think it is a more case of the 737-800 getting Kulula's attention, if I understand the Ryanair principle properly.

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Old 12th Aug 2007, 17:49
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This rumour is a non-starter! Comair are forbidden to conduct long haul flights, they would require the express permission of BA in London. I am sure that it wouldn't be a problem although I would find it difficult to see how they could get rights, SAA and Nationwide will put up a big big fuss to the extent that Comair would be barred from codesharing with BA on the route which they would have to fly under an MN number. In that case I find it difficult to see how BA would agree to it!
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Comair are forbidden to conduct long haul flights, they would require the express permission of BA in London
I have actually heard that BA mainline were actually ready to supply Comair with B777's about a year or two ago, to operate to the UK with their blessing, there just are not enough seats available on this route, but its the bi-lateral agreements and the slots at the UK side that are a real problem.

The other problem is the hesitant and ever over-cautious Comair board that are scared to take this risk.

The biggest problem in the near future and will be an ever increasing problem is the rate at which the pilots at Comair are now looking at the "sandy" pasture for better working conditions and salary, in a few months time their won't be any-one left to fly even the current aircraft schedules never mind the "dream" of international operations on B777's.
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Now there the truth be told.
The biggest problem in the near future and will be an ever increasing problem is the rate at which the pilots at Comair are now looking at the "sandy" pasture for better working conditions and salary, in a few months time their won't be any-one left to fly even the current aircraft schedules never mind the "dream" of international operations on B777's.
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The other problem is the hesitant and ever over-cautious Comair board that are scared to take this risk.
Agreed, although this approach has kept them in business for a hell of a long time.
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business science 101

rewards are directly proportional to risk
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Old 13th Aug 2007, 12:24
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Slots at Gatwick - not easy but not a problem!

Right between SA and UK - no problem for an SA based carrier - the current billateral allows for 42 weekly freequencies by each country, UK is using all (at least during summer) and SA is using 24 (maybe 27 during summer)!

Leasing a 777 from BA - non starter since they are short of long haul capacity, they are even considering using 757s transatlantic when open skies begin!

Comair's appetite for long haul - not a chance!
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south african business science 102:

risk is directly proportional to potentially afkaking
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Comair And 777's

Maybe the fact that their licence application for 6 frequencies a week to london was gazetted this week has someting to do with it
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might just be the tiny fire below the little smoke we start to see now
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Maybe the fact that their licence application for 6 frequencies a week to london was gazetted this week has someting to do with it
Rumours Rumours Rumours,....
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comair press release

Comair applies for London Route
Johannesburg - 20 August 2007: Comair Limited (Comair), the listed group operating British Airways Domestic and Regional routes and low fare airline, kulula.com - today announced that it had submitted an application to the International Air Services Licensing Council to commence flights to London.
The airline currently carries over 3,3 million customers each year both domestically and within Southern Africa. The most recent route to be added was the Johannesburg – Mauritius route. According to Gidon Novick, Joint CEO of the 61 year old airline group, “We believe that the London route would contribute positively to our already extensive domestic and regional network and are preparing a very strong case for the license application.”
Comair is simultaneously investigating various options to acquire wide-body aircraft that would be required to operate the long haul route.
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Comair applies for London Route
Johannesburg - 20 August 2007: Comair Limited (Comair), the listed group operating British Airways Domestic and Regional routes and low fare airline, kulula.com - today announced that it had submitted an application to the International Air Services Licensing Council to commence flights to London.
The airline currently carries over 3,3 million customers each year both domestically and within Southern Africa. The most recent route to be added was the Johannesburg – Mauritius route. According to Gidon Novick, Joint CEO of the 61 year old airline group, “We believe that the London route would contribute positively to our already extensive domestic and regional network and are preparing a very strong case for the license application.”
Comair is simultaneously investigating various options to acquire wide-body aircraft that would be required to operate the long haul route.
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Its sad that one has to read about these things on the net first,
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