Working in Africa
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Jock Flyer,
ATPL Course - PPSC March / April 2000, sat in front of you for the 4 week Nav Course - not sure if you remember me - Mark B.
If it is you, how is the flying coming along.
Spent about 2 months job hunting and got in with Crossair in September, EMB 145, really enjoying it.
Just had mail from Darren, will tell him I've made contact with you.
Speak soon
ATPL Course - PPSC March / April 2000, sat in front of you for the 4 week Nav Course - not sure if you remember me - Mark B.
If it is you, how is the flying coming along.
Spent about 2 months job hunting and got in with Crossair in September, EMB 145, really enjoying it.
Just had mail from Darren, will tell him I've made contact with you.
Speak soon
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Jimmy,
Drop us a line at [email protected]
I can give you all the details of the operators in Maun + any other advice you might want.
Cheers mate
Drop us a line at [email protected]
I can give you all the details of the operators in Maun + any other advice you might want.
Cheers mate
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Good question Hogwash, I'll second that.
F***ing Steph, you seem to have talked yourself into a conrer here. Either 1.you bought the ticket, and then couldn't get on the plane to Africa, 2. Went to Africa and couldn't deal with the lifestyle and got out quick, or 3. Got a job an weren't particularily liked and went home with your tail between you legs. And ever since have had a dislike of these "African Legends" you speak of.
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F***ing Steph, you seem to have talked yourself into a conrer here. Either 1.you bought the ticket, and then couldn't get on the plane to Africa, 2. Went to Africa and couldn't deal with the lifestyle and got out quick, or 3. Got a job an weren't particularily liked and went home with your tail between you legs. And ever since have had a dislike of these "African Legends" you speak of.
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It's not 1, or 2, or even 3... by far ! 
- Same player, shoot again -
I could answer you in detail, but then I'd have to kill you. Unless NitroMan, the self-proclaimed "Savior of the free world", comes to the rescue in time.
You already know I flew in Central Africa. Well, mostly Central Africa because I went North, South, West, and a bit less to the East and all the islands around the continent. You also know that there were containers in my planes.
I did that for 7 years.
Mmmh, I think that's enough...
It's not my style to give away my identity to people I barely know and treat me worse than trash. It's okay to talk, but don't expect me to do you a favor anymore.
By the way, why don't you introduce yourselves ? Why don't you tell us if you enjoyed flying in Africa (I guess you did, but I'm not even sure) ?
- Same player, shoot again -
I could answer you in detail, but then I'd have to kill you. Unless NitroMan, the self-proclaimed "Savior of the free world", comes to the rescue in time.
You already know I flew in Central Africa. Well, mostly Central Africa because I went North, South, West, and a bit less to the East and all the islands around the continent. You also know that there were containers in my planes.
I did that for 7 years.
Mmmh, I think that's enough...
It's not my style to give away my identity to people I barely know and treat me worse than trash. It's okay to talk, but don't expect me to do you a favor anymore.
By the way, why don't you introduce yourselves ? Why don't you tell us if you enjoyed flying in Africa (I guess you did, but I'm not even sure) ?
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Sharky 145 old bugger!! Been trying to catch you for quite a while. I lost your number and moved house ten times since you last left a message. Drop me a line on [email protected] Where are you now?? I fly the Caravan and sometimes go near JER ?? Still there or on the main island??? Say hi to your lady from "Frog the dog".
Hi Zazoo !! sorry mate, have be off line for a little while. C U @ The LGW BASH
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Hi Zazoo !! sorry mate, have be off line for a little while. C U @ The LGW BASH
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Jockflyer
Further to your message about spending some time in Zambia. I would seriously advise against it
Actually to me your posts do look rather racist Pavetack. Removed to Admin area for review by the team. If we decide they are acceptable, they will be reinstated.
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Further to your message about spending some time in Zambia. I would seriously advise against it
Actually to me your posts do look rather racist Pavetack. Removed to Admin area for review by the team. If we decide they are acceptable, they will be reinstated.
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If you want to corerespond further than email me on [email protected]
See post above
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Looks like this is really getting blown out of proportion slowly but surely ...
Stop fighting guys ... there's different opinions about the land where the doors are kept shut so that the heat stays outside (reinforced with burglar bars against other intruders) ... and that's good ... imagine us all sitting on the same spot 'cause we like it so much (like Jo'burg !?) ...
PapaWemba for example ...
hmmmpf plllbrrr gnnnlpfffwuaaahahahaha ...
(sorry gotta go to the lu)
I'm not gonna comment on his post ...
Or Pavetack ... weeell ... some take less (s**t) ... others like it hot ... not so?
Actually ... on a second thought ... I like this thread ... so bring it on guys, bring it on ...
cheers and beers
LF
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Let there be cold beers on a hot day !!!
Stop fighting guys ... there's different opinions about the land where the doors are kept shut so that the heat stays outside (reinforced with burglar bars against other intruders) ... and that's good ... imagine us all sitting on the same spot 'cause we like it so much (like Jo'burg !?) ...
PapaWemba for example ...
hmmmpf plllbrrr gnnnlpfffwuaaahahahaha ...
(sorry gotta go to the lu)
I'm not gonna comment on his post ...
Or Pavetack ... weeell ... some take less (s**t) ... others like it hot ... not so?
Actually ... on a second thought ... I like this thread ... so bring it on guys, bring it on ...
cheers and beers
LF
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Let there be cold beers on a hot day !!!
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Sounds to me that Pavetack is a bit unhappy with Zambia. Question would be if thats the case, what are you doing in SA if your an FAA licensed anything???
I have to agree that some of the countries in Africa are headed back to the stoneage, ie. Zimbabwe etc. Heres hoping someone gets the message before the passage of South Africa.
Its the best kept secret on the continent, I certainly love it there...
I have to agree that some of the countries in Africa are headed back to the stoneage, ie. Zimbabwe etc. Heres hoping someone gets the message before the passage of South Africa.
Its the best kept secret on the continent, I certainly love it there...
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Seems like you opened a place for people to talk about what's really bothering them in life..
I work in East Africa, so I can't comment about the rest..it's a great place to fly, hours come at a reasonable rate..600-800 a year, there are always operators who cruise on the back side of the curve so to speak, even in the hallowed airspace of Europe no doubt!!, but you can usually spot them!!
The IFR is often up to the pilot taking the beer time to practice..and after that cyclone near Mozambique..we're pretty current!
Don't be too disheartened by the sniping above, but be aware that over here, it is being seen and talked to that does the trick..work permits can be got by reputable companies if you are what they need and not everyone needs 1000 hours and MCC, the pay will obviously reflect the position in the beginning but usually improves as you gain experience.
If I can be of more assistance, drop me an email address..
Cheers
Keep the smily side up!
Seems like you opened a place for people to talk about what's really bothering them in life..
I work in East Africa, so I can't comment about the rest..it's a great place to fly, hours come at a reasonable rate..600-800 a year, there are always operators who cruise on the back side of the curve so to speak, even in the hallowed airspace of Europe no doubt!!, but you can usually spot them!!
The IFR is often up to the pilot taking the beer time to practice..and after that cyclone near Mozambique..we're pretty current!
Don't be too disheartened by the sniping above, but be aware that over here, it is being seen and talked to that does the trick..work permits can be got by reputable companies if you are what they need and not everyone needs 1000 hours and MCC, the pay will obviously reflect the position in the beginning but usually improves as you gain experience.
If I can be of more assistance, drop me an email address..
Cheers
Keep the smily side up!
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Ratcatcher- Can you give me any info on the current situation in Kenya. I was there several years back looking for work and subsequently worked in Central Africa. you can email me on [email protected]
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Jock Flyer,
Come over for a few months. See how you like it.
Jump seat a bit - if it suits you, stay.
Incredible characters, laid back attitudes, great beaches, good flying...
Some like it, some don't.
Check it out, take three months here and see what happens...
Come over for a few months. See how you like it.
Jump seat a bit - if it suits you, stay.
Incredible characters, laid back attitudes, great beaches, good flying...
Some like it, some don't.
Check it out, take three months here and see what happens...
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OK,
would anyone please give me some advice.
I passed the conversion exams in Tanzania and that was in Sept last year.
Had to rtn home due to sickness in the family.
The DCA in btw this said anyone wanting to convert now needs a 1000hrs.
I cant get any sence out of them in Dar, do you think I should go back out and just see what happens as they did let me spend lots of money passing the exams in the firts place!
All I need to do is get the licence issued and then I can fly my ass off in the great country.
Cheers
SJ's
would anyone please give me some advice.
I passed the conversion exams in Tanzania and that was in Sept last year.
Had to rtn home due to sickness in the family.
The DCA in btw this said anyone wanting to convert now needs a 1000hrs.
I cant get any sence out of them in Dar, do you think I should go back out and just see what happens as they did let me spend lots of money passing the exams in the firts place!
All I need to do is get the licence issued and then I can fly my ass off in the great country.
Cheers
SJ's
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I am Portuguese and I am also strongly thinking about going to Africa, as my situation is identical to the one of Jock Flyer. Although messages were addressed to him, I thank everyone who gave these important information, as it helps me too.
It is however, sad, that some "unnecessary" comments have been made. I assume that those who made them have been through hard times.
Jock, let me know when you leave.
The best of luck for you.
It is however, sad, that some "unnecessary" comments have been made. I assume that those who made them have been through hard times.
Jock, let me know when you leave.
The best of luck for you.
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Speedjeans,
just go back to Dar. This 1000hr thing is what they tell to all the foreign pilots who try to find a job in Tanzania. I had my licenced conversed with 350hrs 1,5 year ago and found a job with it. After your 'contribution' to the local economy the 1000hrs issue isn't that off a big deal anymore anyway.
Good luck
just go back to Dar. This 1000hr thing is what they tell to all the foreign pilots who try to find a job in Tanzania. I had my licenced conversed with 350hrs 1,5 year ago and found a job with it. After your 'contribution' to the local economy the 1000hrs issue isn't that off a big deal anymore anyway.
Good luck
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Im in europe now (5 year sabatical) having done 10 years and 9000hrs in africa fliyng everything from british royalty to wounded gangrenous dinka.
Go for it mate, i thrived on it.Just dont be naive, and pasing the u.k flight tests was a piece of piss so dont worry about skill erosion, just maintain standards. Like someone said earlier there is not a better training ground for command skills than the bush,i would add that with the cultural mix and race factor there isnt a better traing gnd for crm either.
Alot of people slag it off, but the ones who shout the loudest about professionalism ( or lack of it) etc are usually the ones with a limited or narrow experience base and are scared of what they dont know or have never had to deal with, and dont or wouldnt last in africa.
I've met a lot of good systems and aircraft managers in europe and alot of good pilots but by far the best mentors are the senior training people who started life in the african (or PNG) bush.
nuff said
Safari Njema.
Go for it mate, i thrived on it.Just dont be naive, and pasing the u.k flight tests was a piece of piss so dont worry about skill erosion, just maintain standards. Like someone said earlier there is not a better training ground for command skills than the bush,i would add that with the cultural mix and race factor there isnt a better traing gnd for crm either.
Alot of people slag it off, but the ones who shout the loudest about professionalism ( or lack of it) etc are usually the ones with a limited or narrow experience base and are scared of what they dont know or have never had to deal with, and dont or wouldnt last in africa.
I've met a lot of good systems and aircraft managers in europe and alot of good pilots but by far the best mentors are the senior training people who started life in the african (or PNG) bush.
nuff said
Safari Njema.
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Jockflyer,
Two more (africa)endorsements from a couple of hosers(Canucks). We flew in Botswana and we are now flying the Airbus back home. When we go out for beers, we talk more about the good times and flying in Africa than we do about flying the bus. Lots of people say the words "carpe diem" and "you only live once", unfortunately not many people really understand what those statements really mean. Go for it!
note: those looking for a reference should not look to the movie Dead Poets Society, instead read Robert Frost's Poem,"CARPE DIEM".
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Two more (africa)endorsements from a couple of hosers(Canucks). We flew in Botswana and we are now flying the Airbus back home. When we go out for beers, we talk more about the good times and flying in Africa than we do about flying the bus. Lots of people say the words "carpe diem" and "you only live once", unfortunately not many people really understand what those statements really mean. Go for it!
note: those looking for a reference should not look to the movie Dead Poets Society, instead read Robert Frost's Poem,"CARPE DIEM".
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Just for the fun...
KEATING
"I don't know what misguided impulse caused you to pull that ridiculous stunt, Mr. Dalton, but, whatever it was, I hope you've learned your lesson.
CHARLIE
You're siding with Mr. Nolan?! What about carpe diem and sucking all the marrow out of life and all that?
KEATING
Sucking out the marrow doesn't mean getting the bone stuck in your throat, Charles. You still have responsibilities to yourself and those who care about you.
CHARLIE
But I thought-
KEATING
There is a place for daring and a place for caution as well, Charles, and a wise person understands which one is called for. Getting expelled from this school is not an act of wisdom. It's far from perfect but there are still opportunities to be had here."
DEAD POET'S SOCIETY
http://cob754.dn.net/mypage/moviescr...oets_final.txt
KEATING
"I don't know what misguided impulse caused you to pull that ridiculous stunt, Mr. Dalton, but, whatever it was, I hope you've learned your lesson.
CHARLIE
You're siding with Mr. Nolan?! What about carpe diem and sucking all the marrow out of life and all that?
KEATING
Sucking out the marrow doesn't mean getting the bone stuck in your throat, Charles. You still have responsibilities to yourself and those who care about you.
CHARLIE
But I thought-
KEATING
There is a place for daring and a place for caution as well, Charles, and a wise person understands which one is called for. Getting expelled from this school is not an act of wisdom. It's far from perfect but there are still opportunities to be had here."
DEAD POET'S SOCIETY
http://cob754.dn.net/mypage/moviescr...oets_final.txt