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Old 30th Nov 2001, 21:43
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Question Recce over River Congo

Investigating the possibility of using a light aircraft to do some recce work on the downstream congo. In respect to fishing the river.
I beleive that the river is under dispute between Congo and Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire).
A) is there any General Aviation
B) who would be the best people to contact
C) how dangerous is this part of africa.

The project is UN funded, but as of yet the local authorities are sitting on any info. Is this due to the disputed territory?

Any help sort...
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There's an Aero Club in PNR. I know they've got a Rallye, and I've seen many ultralights flying out of there...
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Aeroclub... Yes but for mebers only. You need to convince one of the members to take the ralley out for the tour. Ultralights are privately owned, I tried to get e a ride but my inability to communicate in French seemed to hinder my attempts.
There is a company in PNR called Aeroservice. They have anything from a BN2 Islander to AN24 available for charter.
Sorry no contact numbers.
They do operate out of Brazza too. Prices? Supply and demand.

Personally I would stay out of the river region, especially the upriver. Quite wild up there. If you insist going for a fishing trip try looking up info on the South African fishing magazines and websites.

There are some barges that go upriver for days with all sort of supplies and come back with stuff out of the jungle. You might think about hitching a ride with one of these, get your own cabin (if available) to sleep in and fish during the day when they stop in many of the little villages. Your catch could even include the Hanta or Ebola
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after spending 8 months flying for the UN in the congo, you are a brave man to go up there to do some fishing. myself and the bloke i was flying with both took up rods with the hope of catching some big fish...we tried fishing at the nautical club in kinshasa and the norm for these places occured....we did not have our passports with us, we did not have fishing permits, we were on government property etc etc etc.
i think you will have to have lots of $$$$$ to help persuade people in that part of the world...and, you must really love fishing to go there!!!!!
also ask, the general, 4granted and tms..they were all there too....
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My advise is to take a flak jacket for "up river" excursions on the ground and depending on altitude...possibly for low level visits. Include a net good enough to pull out the occasional body that floats down the river and keep your eyes "wide open". The taste of the local fish is unknown to me, but I would say you have to be a brave man to try.....I heard of a girl swimming in the river and 2 years later still suffers from a rash.
Rather try the seychelles.......
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Been there, done that, got the T-shirt stolen... You'd have less hassle trying to fish for trout in the Sahara
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Thanks for the posts so far.

Just to clarify a point. The fishing is not rod and line fishing, but two 60 ton trawlers. We have to work out logistics, like landing sites, frozen storage and transport to the city.

The project is part of a 35 million dollar UN project to start industry and teach the locals the skills required to carry this out.

My understanding is that the area is very dangerous at present and most UN money is being bled off to fund the local governments various military adventures. This is to ensure the president stays in power by keeping the army busy!

Personaly I don't want to get involved, but all the info from you guys has been passed on.

Once again many thanks...
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Try getting hold of a guy by the name of Fred Summer/s/lin/?? "FRED" in Kinshasa.Tel Mobi..+243-88048103 (this no.s quite old) Hes an Instructor /charter /Freelance Pilot of note out there and a very nice guy. Hes got accsess to a little piston single and a Senaca II .He also knows a lot of people.
"Beer" in mind its difficult to get anything done but Joseph Kabila is a Fine young man who is very approach
-able. The Un have of course lots of a/c there. Why dont you just inter-agency sub charter a Cessna Caravan from UNHCR. I presume you're UNDP?? Or is UNletsgofishing.com ? I dont think theres much on the Brazza side but that was a while ago.
Also is this for up stream or down stream?
Down stream of course has Hydro elec plants that are better protected with anti aircraft stuff than ..well you get the idea...
good luck. Wouldnt mind doing a low level recce up and down that amazing river for a couple of days in a C208 on floats now....we can dream!!
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P.S General!
youll look back on your days flying up and down that river with fond memories..one day..I understand its still to early but believe me..
Give my left gonad to be there right now!

4g
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i would give my right gonad....and that scan of yours made me very jealous!
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you like that...HUGH??

As someone said to me the other day..Bloemfontein???!!!!
Patience my man patience...
p.s no luck on those questions..sorry
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There is also the Caravan of Aviation Sans
Frontières based in the region that is used
to fly around in the area beetwin Brazza -
Mbandaka - and plenty of place in RDC and RCA.
If you define your precise needs - dates -
places - i might help you out. Send mail if you wish.

Cheers

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Sorry for that Virus..and sorry to anybody else who got nailed from me..badtrans you b1tch!
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Gave BOTH my gonads...now I want them back!!!!
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doveton....they are gone for good, i am afarid that was the price you had to pay for all those $$$$$$$!

whats news then 4 granted?
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who said mbandaka...ah, mbandaka, mbandaka this is uniform november 804...do you read, infact....heish, hotel charlie 100 relay....!!
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"CALLING MBANDAKA..CALLING MBANDAKA?????"
"QNH NOT AVAILEABLE...YOU PARK HERE NO NO NO YOU PARK HERE!!!!"
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Just land, you land OK
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heish...you f***ing guys, always joking and deceiving us, infact....say again your position....runway vacated!!!roge.
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SO!!!.... getting back to this recce over/up the Congo river.

Billy the kidy
Have you thought of heading out to Kisangani and starting from there? Hey Id be on the first plane out ..even if you thought of doing it by pirogue...Now you're talking recce!!!
Hey what ever..

Calling Mbandakaaaaa... !
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