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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 21:03
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???

what's your problem dude ???
this ain't the 1940's anymore
ever heard of CRM ??
enough brains to get the concept ?
if yes to both questions
do yourself a favour
stop your dumbass (=unproffesional!) postings
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 21:13
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Sense of humour transplant didn't take then...?
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Old 3rd Jun 2007, 21:26
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Devil Sense of Humor?

WOT WOT WOT SRT:
A Capt with a sense of humor, **** no can't have a F/o think Capt's are human

Whats the dif between a seagull and a F/o?
CRM CRM CRM: atr ******: What part of I have control do you not understand?enjoy your play station.
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 08:11
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Hardly surprising really, given the fact that at the age of twenty two with 200hours, no one is much good for anything anyway!
In any event, if First Officers were thought to be of any use at all these days, the manufacturers would not be constantly striving for greater automation in the cockpit. Neither, incidentally, would there be a debate raging elsewhere on this forum about flying single crew King Airs.
It is actually high time that F/Os acknowledged the indisputable fact that they introduced the concept of CRM into aviation for purely selfish reasons,and, having done so, have never become proficient in its exercise themselves. First Officers always seek to post blame elsewhere. They should accept the fact that they are almost certainly completely superfluous appendages in today's advanced aviation atmosphere. It is hardly surprising therefore, that Captains, especially experienced ones, become exasperated at their very existence, let alone at their behaviour.

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Old 4th Jun 2007, 08:45
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Twitching the lure, eh Spotty...?
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 09:05
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Hardly surprising really, given the fact that at the age of twenty two with 200hours, no one is much good for anything anyway!
In any event, if First Officers were thought to be of any use at all these days, the manufacturers would not be constantly striving for greater automation in the cockpit. Neither, incidentally, would there be a debate raging elsewhere on this forum about flying single crew King Airs.
It is actually high time that F/Os acknowledged the indisputable fact that they introduced the concept of CRM into aviation for purely selfish reasons,and, having done so, have never become proficient in its exercise themselves. First Officers always seek to post blame elsewhere. They should accept the fact that they are almost certainly completely superfluous appendages in today's advanced aviation atmosphere. It is hardly surprising therefore, that Captains, especially experienced ones, become exasperated at their very existence, let alone by their behaviour.
Wow!
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 13:11
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Now thats what I call a bite and a half

hehehehehehehehehehehehe
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 13:26
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Hardly surprising really, given the fact that at the age of twenty two with 200hours, no one is much good for anything anyway!
In any event, if First Officers were thought to be of any use at all these days, the manufacturers would not be constantly striving for greater automation in the cockpit. Neither, incidentally, would there be a debate raging elsewhere on this forum about flying single crew King Airs.
It is actually high time that F/Os acknowledged the indisputable fact that they introduced the concept of CRM into aviation for purely selfish reasons,and, having done so, have never become proficient in its exercise themselves. First Officers always seek to post blame elsewhere. They should accept the fact that they are almost certainly completely superfluous appendages in today's advanced aviation atmosphere. It is hardly surprising therefore, that Captains, especially experienced ones, become exasperated at their very existence, let alone at their behaviour....



Champion!! Beatings will continue until morale improves
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 17:34
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An F/O is allowed to say three things:

1) Clear to the right Captain

2) That was a great landing Captain

3) I'll take the short, ugly, fat one - Captain

Other than that, they're only good for keeping the trim in check..............
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 17:44
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Too many shiny lures in the water. Think you've scared off the fish....
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 18:12
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Grrr Not for Sissies

If your flying abilities drive training captains to forget basic CRM principles, then maybe you should first start by looking at yourself...
The old timers have survived many things us youngsters can only begin to dream of, I suggest reading "FATE IS THE HUNTER" by Ernest K. Gann.
The mistakes in aviation are written in blood and sometimes psychological mumbo jumbo is not quite as effective as a good WAKE UP SLAP!
At the same time you also have to take it from where it comes i.e. a reputable instructor and you are the only one being shouted at maybe you should question yourself before looking for excuses. One thing you need to understand about aviation, your captain is not always going to be perfect, nor you instructor, nor your f/o, nor the weather or even the serviceability of your aircraft, not to mention ATC in certain areas of the world and if you can't learn to deal and handle these imperfections then you're in the wrong game!
P.s. If you are really a hot shot pilot, use your new CRM skills and turn the situation around.Aviation is not fair, it's full of dirty politics which makes me think this is what's going on here. If a training captian is really out of place there are many ways of dealing with sitiations like this, so take them on face to face, but make sure your nose is clean, because if it's not you will be known as the idiot.
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