SAX moving to DPE
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Avi8tor, you are 100% correct.
The guy that set up SAX was a Canadian con artist who traveled around the world setting up airlines for minority groups and pocket the commission of the A/C. Generally he would stick around for 2-3 years and then run before the house of cards would fall down. If my memory serves me correctly he did pull out and left in 1-2 days.
I think you can safely say that if it was not for SAA and the tax man's money SAx would not be around today
The guy that set up SAX was a Canadian con artist who traveled around the world setting up airlines for minority groups and pocket the commission of the A/C. Generally he would stick around for 2-3 years and then run before the house of cards would fall down. If my memory serves me correctly he did pull out and left in 1-2 days.
I think you can safely say that if it was not for SAA and the tax man's money SAx would not be around today
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And the point of this all is...what?
SAX has a rumoured debt of R300 Million - which Airline does not?
(Except if you just sold almost half your company to Investec)
SAX makes a healthy Nett Profit - in the region of R177 Million I am led to believe.
(Which other Airline does - very few yes)
The telling truth in this whole thread, is the fact that even if SAA has a miracle turn-around and makes R3 Billion Nett Profit per year, they will still be bashed. So why waste your breath...
Why (if they make a profit) I do not really understand - Oh wait, it has got to be the fact that there is a Private Company (or two), who could buy a few more 20 year old jets and try to provide the same service to the Taxpayers.
Similar to what is happening to SAX now, is it not.
Just interesting that those same Taxpayers (with ERJ Command et al) are continuously forwarding CV's to SAX.
Now get used to it - as SAX is only in the infancy stage.
At the same time, if you are really serious, update those CV's and submit.
More/"bigger" surprises on the way...
SAX has a rumoured debt of R300 Million - which Airline does not?
(Except if you just sold almost half your company to Investec)
SAX makes a healthy Nett Profit - in the region of R177 Million I am led to believe.
(Which other Airline does - very few yes)
The telling truth in this whole thread, is the fact that even if SAA has a miracle turn-around and makes R3 Billion Nett Profit per year, they will still be bashed. So why waste your breath...
Why (if they make a profit) I do not really understand - Oh wait, it has got to be the fact that there is a Private Company (or two), who could buy a few more 20 year old jets and try to provide the same service to the Taxpayers.
Similar to what is happening to SAX now, is it not.
Just interesting that those same Taxpayers (with ERJ Command et al) are continuously forwarding CV's to SAX.
Now get used to it - as SAX is only in the infancy stage.
At the same time, if you are really serious, update those CV's and submit.
More/"bigger" surprises on the way...
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I also wish SAX well, and the boys and girls that fly there. But its time to level the playing field. Its time to stop costing the tax payer money.
Thats out of the Business Day. If it was making a real profit why does SAX need government money again? How did it manage to burn all its cash if its making a profit?
Sorry people, paper profits don't count.
Auditors APF Chartered Accountants say this “material uncertainty” casts “significant doubt on its ability to continue as a going concern”.
Sorry people, paper profits don't count.
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Service???
"Why (if they make a profit) I do not really understand - Oh wait, it has got to be the fact that there is a Private Company (or two), who could buy a few more 20 year old jets and try to provide the same service to the Taxpayers"
Q4NVS,
I really would like to see a poll about who thinks SAA's sevice is any good. Personally, and it is only my opinion, I think their service and attitude stinks.
I can only comment on domestic service, as fortunately I have other choices for international travel. Why sit crammed in an A340 with 300 odd other people, JNB to CPT, and get Mr, or worse Mrs AA employee of the month throw a very stale missile called food at me without so much as a smile and never to be seen again,
when I could sit in a nice leather seat on a CLEAN MD80, pick what I want from the trolley and gladly pay my 10 bucks, enjoy my nice fresh sandwich and the lovely smile I got being served??
No contest, me thinks
Q4NVS,
I really would like to see a poll about who thinks SAA's sevice is any good. Personally, and it is only my opinion, I think their service and attitude stinks.
I can only comment on domestic service, as fortunately I have other choices for international travel. Why sit crammed in an A340 with 300 odd other people, JNB to CPT, and get Mr, or worse Mrs AA employee of the month throw a very stale missile called food at me without so much as a smile and never to be seen again,
when I could sit in a nice leather seat on a CLEAN MD80, pick what I want from the trolley and gladly pay my 10 bucks, enjoy my nice fresh sandwich and the lovely smile I got being served??
No contest, me thinks
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really would like to see a poll about who thinks SAA's sevice is any good. Personally, and it is only my opinion, I think their service and attitude stinks.
I can only comment on domestic service, as fortunately I have other choices for international travel. Why sit crammed in an A340 with 300 odd other people, JNB to CPT, and get Mr, or worse Mrs AA employee of the month throw a very stale missile called food at me without so much as a smile and never to be seen again,
when I could sit in a nice leather seat on a CLEAN MD80, pick what I want from the trolley and gladly pay my 10 bucks, enjoy my nice fresh sandwich and the lovely smile I got being served??
No contest, me thinks
I can only comment on domestic service, as fortunately I have other choices for international travel. Why sit crammed in an A340 with 300 odd other people, JNB to CPT, and get Mr, or worse Mrs AA employee of the month throw a very stale missile called food at me without so much as a smile and never to be seen again,
when I could sit in a nice leather seat on a CLEAN MD80, pick what I want from the trolley and gladly pay my 10 bucks, enjoy my nice fresh sandwich and the lovely smile I got being served??
No contest, me thinks
Just in case you forgot to look- the thread is about SAX not SAA. You sound like a used car sales man- CLEAN MD80= wheezing old banger with a shiney new paint job
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Deskjockey,
In case you did not read the post properly, Q4NVS brought SAA into play. (If I misunderstood his post I apologise )
As far as I am aware, my shiny old banger does not compete with SAX, but only SAA.
I have never flown on SAX, so cannot comment on their service, but agree with most that it should not fall into government clutches, or else there goes the profit , if such a thing exists........
In case you did not read the post properly, Q4NVS brought SAA into play. (If I misunderstood his post I apologise )
As far as I am aware, my shiny old banger does not compete with SAX, but only SAA.
I have never flown on SAX, so cannot comment on their service, but agree with most that it should not fall into government clutches, or else there goes the profit , if such a thing exists........