Anyone have any info of Solisos Airline???
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Hello guys,
I being new here would expect that we can all make deductions to any thread, be it rumour, or hear say.
It is not a very nice thing to read through and find fellows using language here that is only befitting of those without common sense.
If a person disagrees with another, its no reason to get personal, i think we are all entitled to make our little inputs whether right or wrong.
Avsec, i think you owe us all an apology, you may not know us all personally, but it's just wise to keep the peace.
Sosoliso's accident from what i hear, was narrowed down to windshear.
Happy holidays guys.
I being new here would expect that we can all make deductions to any thread, be it rumour, or hear say.
It is not a very nice thing to read through and find fellows using language here that is only befitting of those without common sense.
If a person disagrees with another, its no reason to get personal, i think we are all entitled to make our little inputs whether right or wrong.
Avsec, i think you owe us all an apology, you may not know us all personally, but it's just wise to keep the peace.
Sosoliso's accident from what i hear, was narrowed down to windshear.
Happy holidays guys.
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Some time ago Sosoliso offered me this
Some of the terms and conditions of the contract as it pertains to Line Captains is follows:
1.Guest house at home base or any other location the company is based.
2.Transportation,to and from work will be provided.
3.Paid holliday of four (4) weeks at a stretch after every six (6) months during the period of agreement.
4.The company will provide life insurance when on duty.
5.License insurance,according to the appropriate procedure will also be ensured.
6.All necessary books and documents required for carrying out duties will be provided.
7.Working time will be in accordance with Sosoliso Operations Manual.
8.A Nigerian residence and work permit for the period of contract.
9.A return ticket from country of origin to Nigeria during the holliday will be provided.
10.Every day time up to 10hrs and every engagement time up to four (4) landings during this time,you will be paid a duty allowance of N2, 500 and an out of base night stop allowance of N3, 000
11.Medical protection to and from medical centre.
If the conditions are okay by you,we ask that you please make necessary arrangements to immediately travel to Nigeria.You will be recieved here in Lagos where accomodation and transport will be provided for you on arrival.
You will also be reimbursed the cost of your flight ticket to Lagos,Nigera from your current base.
1.Guest house at home base or any other location the company is based.
2.Transportation,to and from work will be provided.
3.Paid holliday of four (4) weeks at a stretch after every six (6) months during the period of agreement.
4.The company will provide life insurance when on duty.
5.License insurance,according to the appropriate procedure will also be ensured.
6.All necessary books and documents required for carrying out duties will be provided.
7.Working time will be in accordance with Sosoliso Operations Manual.
8.A Nigerian residence and work permit for the period of contract.
9.A return ticket from country of origin to Nigeria during the holliday will be provided.
10.Every day time up to 10hrs and every engagement time up to four (4) landings during this time,you will be paid a duty allowance of N2, 500 and an out of base night stop allowance of N3, 000
11.Medical protection to and from medical centre.
If the conditions are okay by you,we ask that you please make necessary arrangements to immediately travel to Nigeria.You will be recieved here in Lagos where accomodation and transport will be provided for you on arrival.
You will also be reimbursed the cost of your flight ticket to Lagos,Nigera from your current base.
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AVSEC,
You're starting to lose credibility by insulting everyone on this forum and this will do you no good if you wish to maintain the unbiased attitude necessary in a security expert.
The Aviation Safety Network, recognised by many aviation safety bureaus as having been reliable since it was started 10 years ago seems to view the accident rather more from the viewpoint of other posters on this site:
Now, the management of Sosoliso may chose to say that inclement weather was the cause of the accident, but the stated probable cause is that the crew continued below decision height without having the required visual reference. When that happens in any reputable airline, there's no further decision to make - the aircraft immediately commences a GO AROUND. After that the crew may either decide to make another approach or set course for their diversion airfield.
The airline remains grounded with its AOC revoked.
You're starting to lose credibility by insulting everyone on this forum and this will do you no good if you wish to maintain the unbiased attitude necessary in a security expert.
Independent investigation has attributed the crash of Sosoliso to weather phenomenon.Why dont you quote that you misguided sooth sayers.
PROBABLE CAUSE: The crew's decision to continue the approach beyond the Decision Altitude without having the runway and/or airport in sight.
Contributory factors were:
- the aircraft encountered adverse weather conditions with the ingredients of wind shear activity on approach
- the reducing visibility in thunderstorm and rain as at the time the aircraft came in to land
- the airfield lightings were not on and may also have impaired the pilot from sighting the runway
- the aircraft had an impact with the exposed drainage concrete culvert which led to its disintegration and subsequent fire outbreak
Contributory factors were:
- the aircraft encountered adverse weather conditions with the ingredients of wind shear activity on approach
- the reducing visibility in thunderstorm and rain as at the time the aircraft came in to land
- the airfield lightings were not on and may also have impaired the pilot from sighting the runway
- the aircraft had an impact with the exposed drainage concrete culvert which led to its disintegration and subsequent fire outbreak
The airline remains grounded with its AOC revoked.
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So you detractors should SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
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Why dont you quote that you misguided sooth sayers.
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Gee...... are there no moderators on this forum?
I do believe avsec needs a finger wagging, if not more!
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So you detractors should SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
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Why dont you quote that you misguided sooth sayers.
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Gee...... are there no moderators on this forum?
I do believe avsec needs a finger wagging, if not more!
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I apologise for my immature earlier statements.
After the former minister of aviations error in judgement making official pronouncements on behalf of the ministry of aviation before studying the investigatory report,I would have thought that many african aviation observers and stake holders would have been careful as to how they interprete comments emanating fro Parastatals of the government.
I am of the opinion that many Nigerian airports are poorly equipped with landing aids and I believe the Paul dike report exposes this,as well as revelations from the ADC crash.
I am sad that so many children and adults lost their lives in the Sosoliso accident,but as a professional and stake holder in West African Aviation industry,I believe a spade should be called a spade,no matter whose ox is gored.
1.Has it been disproved that for 18 months the DC9 was out of operational use?
2.Has it neen disproved that the DC9 was not up for sale,and does it not make sense to maintain the aircraft when D checks were due so that a higher price could be got in its sale?
3.How long had the DC9 been operating,and why had the documents relating to parts of the aircraft not earlier detected?
4.Has it been disproved that the documents and parts in question did not come with the aircraft when Sosoliso purchased it?
5.Who should be sanctioned,Sosoliso or the company that knowingly sold the DC9 with parts thathad fake American government certification?
6.Should the ministry of aviation via foreign affairs of the federal government of nigeria not be trying to bring criminal action against that foreign company,by pressuring the supervising government civil aviation authority to bring action against that company?
7.The fact that sosoliso forwarded the documents to the NCAA,ministry of aviation and french civil aviation authorities does imply to me that they may not have been aware there was a problem.
Sosoliso has a lot of questions to answer RE:their technical department/procurement department, and their mode of procuring aircrafts insurance coverage.
However,what cannot be ignored is that in a balance of probabilities it has been shown that weather phenomenon and bad airport management were the main contributive factors to the accident.
why does no one seem to be asking what ATC communication was with the sosoliso crew on approach?
Were the crew warned about the changing weather?
Has an audit been done on the training of all personnel attached to ATC in PHC at the time of the accident?
After the former minister of aviations error in judgement making official pronouncements on behalf of the ministry of aviation before studying the investigatory report,I would have thought that many african aviation observers and stake holders would have been careful as to how they interprete comments emanating fro Parastatals of the government.
I am of the opinion that many Nigerian airports are poorly equipped with landing aids and I believe the Paul dike report exposes this,as well as revelations from the ADC crash.
I am sad that so many children and adults lost their lives in the Sosoliso accident,but as a professional and stake holder in West African Aviation industry,I believe a spade should be called a spade,no matter whose ox is gored.
1.Has it been disproved that for 18 months the DC9 was out of operational use?
2.Has it neen disproved that the DC9 was not up for sale,and does it not make sense to maintain the aircraft when D checks were due so that a higher price could be got in its sale?
3.How long had the DC9 been operating,and why had the documents relating to parts of the aircraft not earlier detected?
4.Has it been disproved that the documents and parts in question did not come with the aircraft when Sosoliso purchased it?
5.Who should be sanctioned,Sosoliso or the company that knowingly sold the DC9 with parts thathad fake American government certification?
6.Should the ministry of aviation via foreign affairs of the federal government of nigeria not be trying to bring criminal action against that foreign company,by pressuring the supervising government civil aviation authority to bring action against that company?
7.The fact that sosoliso forwarded the documents to the NCAA,ministry of aviation and french civil aviation authorities does imply to me that they may not have been aware there was a problem.
Sosoliso has a lot of questions to answer RE:their technical department/procurement department, and their mode of procuring aircrafts insurance coverage.
However,what cannot be ignored is that in a balance of probabilities it has been shown that weather phenomenon and bad airport management were the main contributive factors to the accident.
why does no one seem to be asking what ATC communication was with the sosoliso crew on approach?
Were the crew warned about the changing weather?
Has an audit been done on the training of all personnel attached to ATC in PHC at the time of the accident?
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AVSEC
Apology accepted!
Please don't think I'm getting at you when I say that captain Buck was quite correct in what he said. Irrespective of the weather phenomena and whether ATC warned the crew, most aircraft these days are equipped with weather radar; but his most telling statement is the fact that, in the event that the crew does not have the required visual reference at DH(DA)
I take due note of all your other comments regarding Sosoliso's culpability or otherwise in the matter of the spare parts and the accompanying documentation and agree that this needs further investigation.
Apology accepted!
Please don't think I'm getting at you when I say that captain Buck was quite correct in what he said. Irrespective of the weather phenomena and whether ATC warned the crew, most aircraft these days are equipped with weather radar; but his most telling statement is the fact that, in the event that the crew does not have the required visual reference at DH(DA)
there's no further decision to make - the aircraft immediately commences a GO AROUND. After that the crew may either decide to make another approach or set course for their diversion airfield.
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I know you don't have it any more, but any clues as to where the report can be obtained? I have been trying to get Nigerian official investigation reports for some time and have never yet succeeded.
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I heard from friends that copies of reports can be bought for a fee as I don't think that the Accident Investigation & Prevention Bureau (AIPB) believe the free dissemination of accident reports is useful. 
Additionally, they haven't entered the digital age yet so nothing is online.
Additionally, they haven't entered the digital age yet so nothing is online.
