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I think the parlimentary travell agent should be fired.
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Now that this abuse of the SAAF is out... What about Zuma's misuse of the SAAF?? Using the SAAF as a personel taxi service to his township in durban?? Hops on a falcon/BBJ to durbs, then onto an Oryx to his house... Sure his bill for all those trips is more than R384000...
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Don't you just love the pprune? Marvelous?
Throwing bones.....bonesmen, the noose is tightening, it's pulled from VERY high up. Left unattended this is going somewhere at a rate of Mcrit!
Who am I defending? The people and the best interrest of SA, to start with....
Balletjies trap!
Throwing bones.....bonesmen, the noose is tightening, it's pulled from VERY high up. Left unattended this is going somewhere at a rate of Mcrit!
Who am I defending? The people and the best interrest of SA, to start with....
Balletjies trap!
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OTD, the SA constitution allows freedom of speech and expression. If you don't like it, too bad. I'm definately not a "gatkruiper". Never been , and never will. I served my country from 1975 to 1981, and understand exactly what politics are all about, having majored in political & social sciences.
Pprune is a rumour network and what I write, is exactly how I feel. The ruling politicians in SA have blown it big time for the last 11 years with regards to service delivery, housing etc. SA is not the same, believe you me.
People praise Trevor Manual for the great job he's doing as Finance minister, inflation is low etc, but what you must understand is the fact that Trevor is doing well due to circumstances. In the old "apartheid" regime, the GDP of SA was based on the revenue of 5 million whites. Now it's based on the income of 4 million whites that are over the age of 18, and 45 million blacks, coloreds and indians. That makes a BIG difference.
With regards to the Bull
t of the Deputy President.... with respect.... she's blown it big time by being a liar, and I can assure you her credibility is hanging on a string.
Unfortunately, the majority of the people in SA are black, and they will always, due to their lack of ability and understanding of social affairs, vote for the ANC, with the result that the ANC will always remain in power.
Ten or maybe 20 years from now, SA could end up like Zimbabwe, and what is the rest of the world going to say then. Well Done Thabo & Co???
You must remember that Ronnie Kasrils, our "Intelligence Minister", commended Bob Mugabe and his cronies for f g up Zimbabwe, once the bread basket of Sub Saharan Africa, and said that Bob needs to be commended for his achievements over the last 25 years.
Achievements????? What achievements????
Think about it my friend, and then let me know whether you think the ANC Government in SA needs to be commended.
One last word before I sign off! What amazes me though, is how many staunch white South Africans, once serious racists, have become "gatkruipers" for financial gain. Maybe you fit in there???? Who knows, but it ain't me bro!
Ciao Senor! I'll have a grappa on you!
Pprune is a rumour network and what I write, is exactly how I feel. The ruling politicians in SA have blown it big time for the last 11 years with regards to service delivery, housing etc. SA is not the same, believe you me.
People praise Trevor Manual for the great job he's doing as Finance minister, inflation is low etc, but what you must understand is the fact that Trevor is doing well due to circumstances. In the old "apartheid" regime, the GDP of SA was based on the revenue of 5 million whites. Now it's based on the income of 4 million whites that are over the age of 18, and 45 million blacks, coloreds and indians. That makes a BIG difference.
With regards to the Bull
t of the Deputy President.... with respect.... she's blown it big time by being a liar, and I can assure you her credibility is hanging on a string.Unfortunately, the majority of the people in SA are black, and they will always, due to their lack of ability and understanding of social affairs, vote for the ANC, with the result that the ANC will always remain in power.
Ten or maybe 20 years from now, SA could end up like Zimbabwe, and what is the rest of the world going to say then. Well Done Thabo & Co???
You must remember that Ronnie Kasrils, our "Intelligence Minister", commended Bob Mugabe and his cronies for f
g up Zimbabwe, once the bread basket of Sub Saharan Africa, and said that Bob needs to be commended for his achievements over the last 25 years.Achievements????? What achievements????
Think about it my friend, and then let me know whether you think the ANC Government in SA needs to be commended.
One last word before I sign off! What amazes me though, is how many staunch white South Africans, once serious racists, have become "gatkruipers" for financial gain. Maybe you fit in there???? Who knows, but it ain't me bro!
Ciao Senor! I'll have a grappa on you!
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Originally Posted by ou Trek dronkie
Quite right SRT, I remember seing a bunch of Nats arrive at a camp near Beit Bridge to go off shooting at a sort of a reserve right on the Zambesi border. All I can rememer is that it had a donkey/zebra animal which was a source of wonder at the time.
oTd
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Normally they would land at a nice new runway which was also used as a forward control airport (never in my time) ... but Danie Hough (administrator of the Tvl) had a farm right close by ...damn the dorp has slipped my mind ..about 100 k's south of Messina (same dorp as Dirkie Uys Misty )
Anyway .. a Falcon or two would bring them : PW , MM , Pik .. Bill Venter , big man with a lot of Nissan garages in Pta etc etc ..
4 Puma 's ... cops / recce's .. die hele toet and off they will go hunting.
Did it many times - I thought it to be ok .. I was just a Captain and we did not ask questions.
Even today I still think a spangees is fine but I sidder to think what the costs was ...
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Listen man,
I am aware of everything you say and have thought (mostly) that way for many, many years. You cannot argue with facts.
No, look here, what I strongly objected to, sorry I was not specific, are the following :
“hout politicians” in my book, that is racist abuse. Try exercising your “Freedom of speech” with that phrase in another context and see what happens. Freedom of speech is a precious right and must be used responsibly, otherwise it devalues the currency.
“Jacob Zuma raped an HIV positive chick without any protection” I am sorry, I did not realise he has already been put on trial and found guilty. Are you absolutely sure about this ?
“Maybe the Sangoma will tell him to go and rape a baby to "cleanse" himself once he finds himself infected”
Yes, this sickening behaviour does happen, to the utter revolt of all decent minded people. Are you seriously suggesting any particular individual would do it ? That is what I call dangerous my friend.
If I have a contentious point or two to make, I try (not always succeeding) to keep the tone reasonably moderate, without writing reprehensible stuff which can be held against me (unless I am winding up).
And as for this : “ many staunch white South Africans, once serious racists, have become "gatkruipers" for financial gain. Maybe you fit in there????”
Bit of a cheap shot I’d say and a waste of ink. If you only knew, but it’s a wild accusation, rather like other things you have written, so I will not dignify it with a response.
I have never, ever commended the ANC government, far from it. In fact, commending governments would be a new departure for me anyway. Check my recent post on Signor Burlesquoni. But if I did, I believe people reading my rants would be more impressed by temperate language than unfounded racial abuse.
Hope you can see my point of view ?
Anyway, mi piace anche tantissimo il grappa - you can't be too bad a bloke if you like it too ! Salute !!!
oTd
I am aware of everything you say and have thought (mostly) that way for many, many years. You cannot argue with facts.
No, look here, what I strongly objected to, sorry I was not specific, are the following :
“hout politicians” in my book, that is racist abuse. Try exercising your “Freedom of speech” with that phrase in another context and see what happens. Freedom of speech is a precious right and must be used responsibly, otherwise it devalues the currency.
“Jacob Zuma raped an HIV positive chick without any protection” I am sorry, I did not realise he has already been put on trial and found guilty. Are you absolutely sure about this ?
“Maybe the Sangoma will tell him to go and rape a baby to "cleanse" himself once he finds himself infected”
Yes, this sickening behaviour does happen, to the utter revolt of all decent minded people. Are you seriously suggesting any particular individual would do it ? That is what I call dangerous my friend.
If I have a contentious point or two to make, I try (not always succeeding) to keep the tone reasonably moderate, without writing reprehensible stuff which can be held against me (unless I am winding up).
And as for this : “ many staunch white South Africans, once serious racists, have become "gatkruipers" for financial gain. Maybe you fit in there????”
Bit of a cheap shot I’d say and a waste of ink. If you only knew, but it’s a wild accusation, rather like other things you have written, so I will not dignify it with a response.
I have never, ever commended the ANC government, far from it. In fact, commending governments would be a new departure for me anyway. Check my recent post on Signor Burlesquoni. But if I did, I believe people reading my rants would be more impressed by temperate language than unfounded racial abuse.
Hope you can see my point of view ?
Anyway, mi piace anche tantissimo il grappa - you can't be too bad a bloke if you like it too ! Salute !!!
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Guns,
Normally they would land at a nice new runway which was also used as a forward control airport (never in my time) ... but Danie Hough (administrator of the Tvl) had a farm right close by ...damn the dorp has slipped my mind ..about 100 k's south of Messina (same dorp as Dirkie Uys Misty )
tWell, he runway where I was was Messina self. It was with a bit of a Mickey Mouse outfit at the time. Pik was definitely one of the ous. I remember him walking past me, totally ignoring my magnificent salute. Die donner.
There was another place to the south of Messina, just off the main road, it was a Broederbond hang-out. Maybe that was the one ? At Mesina, we had some big stuff coming in and plenty Imps. Lots of fun.
Lang verlede ...
oTd
Normally they would land at a nice new runway which was also used as a forward control airport (never in my time) ... but Danie Hough (administrator of the Tvl) had a farm right close by ...damn the dorp has slipped my mind ..about 100 k's south of Messina (same dorp as Dirkie Uys Misty )
tWell, he runway where I was was Messina self. It was with a bit of a Mickey Mouse outfit at the time. Pik was definitely one of the ous. I remember him walking past me, totally ignoring my magnificent salute. Die donner.
There was another place to the south of Messina, just off the main road, it was a Broederbond hang-out. Maybe that was the one ? At Mesina, we had some big stuff coming in and plenty Imps. Lots of fun.
Lang verlede ...
oTd
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Guns, jammer, maar akkerige vergelyking, aangesien die platbomme maar wyd gesaai was in PW se tyd. Hy's geen hero van my ook nie! Onthou daar was onluste en dan was ons ook nog in oorlog gewees, redelike groot verkil.
Inkopies doen vir altwee groepe met staatsvoertuie is uit, tensy jy dit takties kon doen, maar sy FI sê, was daardie ene nogal ongeleë veral nou! Dis asof dit nou 'n oes tydperk is, maar sommer blatant! Ons almal weet hulle wil hulle self verryk, maar moenie in die proses voorgee almal is ape nie. Almal, insluitende die hele bevolking, dink ek was rdelik tolerant. Ek persoonlik is teen geweld, maar is bevrees dat jy nou swaar polariteit gaan kry, tot nadeel van minderhede groepe.
Die minderheid is verryk, en die meerderheid lyk my het ook nou mooi genoeg. Daar is baie plaaslike betogings en die regering wil dit nie erken dat daar burgeroorlog onder hulle eie etniese groep is nie. Ontkennings fase tans, maar die lont het hulle al bewys, is baie kort!
Afrika het nog nooit sag met hulle eie gespeel nie, en die wêreld raak al hoe kleiner. Al die geld, maar waar sal ons dit dan spandeer?
oTd, wat was daardie van jou? Gaan jy jou voet ooit weer daar uitkry? Kom ons speel die bal, jammer jy het aangespreek gevoel.
Ek glo ons moet altwee die ekstreme ontlont. Ons het lankal bewys dit was nie die boere wat rasisties was nie, daai plooi het lankal al mooi platgeval. Die kroon sal moet introspeksie hou, orals het hulle pap op die vloer.
Stamp korrupsie uit! Gee die mense weer ware bekwame leiers, dan sal SA weer vooruit hardloop. Dink net al die mense weer terug, bly om terug te wees! Alhoewel met bietjie minder moela a.g.v. die "Sterk" rand......
Inkopies doen vir altwee groepe met staatsvoertuie is uit, tensy jy dit takties kon doen, maar sy FI sê, was daardie ene nogal ongeleë veral nou! Dis asof dit nou 'n oes tydperk is, maar sommer blatant! Ons almal weet hulle wil hulle self verryk, maar moenie in die proses voorgee almal is ape nie. Almal, insluitende die hele bevolking, dink ek was rdelik tolerant. Ek persoonlik is teen geweld, maar is bevrees dat jy nou swaar polariteit gaan kry, tot nadeel van minderhede groepe.
Die minderheid is verryk, en die meerderheid lyk my het ook nou mooi genoeg. Daar is baie plaaslike betogings en die regering wil dit nie erken dat daar burgeroorlog onder hulle eie etniese groep is nie. Ontkennings fase tans, maar die lont het hulle al bewys, is baie kort!
Afrika het nog nooit sag met hulle eie gespeel nie, en die wêreld raak al hoe kleiner. Al die geld, maar waar sal ons dit dan spandeer?
oTd, wat was daardie van jou? Gaan jy jou voet ooit weer daar uitkry? Kom ons speel die bal, jammer jy het aangespreek gevoel.
Ek glo ons moet altwee die ekstreme ontlont. Ons het lankal bewys dit was nie die boere wat rasisties was nie, daai plooi het lankal al mooi platgeval. Die kroon sal moet introspeksie hou, orals het hulle pap op die vloer.
Stamp korrupsie uit! Gee die mense weer ware bekwame leiers, dan sal SA weer vooruit hardloop. Dink net al die mense weer terug, bly om terug te wees! Alhoewel met bietjie minder moela a.g.v. die "Sterk" rand......
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Guys, a gentle reminder that this forum is English medium - please feel free to post other language news articles (if possible with an English translation) but then please continue the discussion in English.
Of course anything goes at the Campfire. Thanks for understanding.
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Originally Posted by ou Trek dronkie
Guns,
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I][COLOR="Red"]There was another place to the south of Messina, just off the main road, it was a Broederbond hang-out. Maybe that was the one ? At Mesina, we had some big stuff coming in and plenty Imps. Lots of fun.
oTd
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I][COLOR="Red"]There was another place to the south of Messina, just off the main road, it was a Broederbond hang-out. Maybe that was the one ? At Mesina, we had some big stuff coming in and plenty Imps. Lots of fun.
oTd
Anyway came back with my hunting party .. 2 land Cruiser bakkies and about 6 hunters and 2 "helping hands" .
This was about 1995 now but the new SA has not struck at Alldays hotel .. my helper was asked to leave the breakfast table .. so we all left - never to return again.
Last time I went through there was in 99 and things have changed for the better - new hotel owner of course
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Guns, agree! There is no more room for racial bias, from both sides! Guess what? Everyone is capable of operating within a corrupt free society, believe me. Then one quickly loses colour and are just a fellow citizen and government officials, officials again, and not empire managers.
Respect will then be EARNED!
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4HP, apologies, tried to rectify by editing, but my posting ability, now that's even mystifying me! Something I said?
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Goverment on the HOP ...
A crisis meeting was held at the highest level on Monday afternoon to try to limit the harm done to the government's image - at home and abroad - by deputy president Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka's visit to the United Arab Emirates.
It was learnt that she and the head of communications in the presidency, Murphy Morobe, met to draw up a strategy to put an end to the perception that things were being covered up.
A comprehensive announcement, placing all the presidency's cards on the table was envisaged, perhaps as early as Tuesday.
This follows questions from the Democratic Alliance about whether Social Development Minister Zola Skweyiya or his wife, Thuthu Mazibuko, accompanied the deputy president on the trip.
Skweyiya's spokesperson, Lakela Kaunda, denied that he was on the flight, but said nothing about his wife.
DA MP Gareth Morgan will ask questions in parliament to try to establish whether any cabinet ministers accompanied Mlambo-Ngquka.
DA intends testing rumour
In answer to an enquiry, Kaunda sent an SMS stating: "Minister Skweyiya did not go with the deputy president to Dubai."
She did not respond to enquiries about the minister's wife.
Morgan said that although the source of the rumour was uncertain, the DA considered it essential to test it.
"Given the number of versions of the events concerning Mlambo-Ngcuka's trip that have already come from the presidency, the DA is not prepared to let the matter rest there.
"We'll raise a question in parliament about it," he said.
Morgan said the absence of a cabinet minister scarcely explained why the presidency has given so many versions of the events.
"If a minister or the spouse of a minister did go with the deputy president to the Emirates, it would be a contravention of the manual for cabinet members.
"The guidelines in the manual state that cabinet ministers are entitled to travel business-class at government expense, if it is for official reasons," said Morgan.
Must declare all favours
He said that the presidency, once and for all, should put all its cards on the table and set out the purpose as well as the precise course of the trip - especially given the African National Congress's previous dubious attempts at fund-raising.
Morgan also pointed out that any member of parliament, cabinet minister and even the deputy president had to declare any favours or concessions they received concerning private accommodation in the register of members' interests.
This follows allegations that the Ngcuka family may have been hosted by a Dubai royal.
It was learnt that she and the head of communications in the presidency, Murphy Morobe, met to draw up a strategy to put an end to the perception that things were being covered up.
A comprehensive announcement, placing all the presidency's cards on the table was envisaged, perhaps as early as Tuesday.
This follows questions from the Democratic Alliance about whether Social Development Minister Zola Skweyiya or his wife, Thuthu Mazibuko, accompanied the deputy president on the trip.
Skweyiya's spokesperson, Lakela Kaunda, denied that he was on the flight, but said nothing about his wife.
DA MP Gareth Morgan will ask questions in parliament to try to establish whether any cabinet ministers accompanied Mlambo-Ngquka.
DA intends testing rumour
In answer to an enquiry, Kaunda sent an SMS stating: "Minister Skweyiya did not go with the deputy president to Dubai."
She did not respond to enquiries about the minister's wife.
Morgan said that although the source of the rumour was uncertain, the DA considered it essential to test it.
"Given the number of versions of the events concerning Mlambo-Ngcuka's trip that have already come from the presidency, the DA is not prepared to let the matter rest there.
"We'll raise a question in parliament about it," he said.
Morgan said the absence of a cabinet minister scarcely explained why the presidency has given so many versions of the events.
"If a minister or the spouse of a minister did go with the deputy president to the Emirates, it would be a contravention of the manual for cabinet members.
"The guidelines in the manual state that cabinet ministers are entitled to travel business-class at government expense, if it is for official reasons," said Morgan.
Must declare all favours
He said that the presidency, once and for all, should put all its cards on the table and set out the purpose as well as the precise course of the trip - especially given the African National Congress's previous dubious attempts at fund-raising.
Morgan also pointed out that any member of parliament, cabinet minister and even the deputy president had to declare any favours or concessions they received concerning private accommodation in the register of members' interests.
This follows allegations that the Ngcuka family may have been hosted by a Dubai royal.
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Social Development Minister Zola Skweyiya did not accompany Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka on a trip to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) late last year, the minister's office said on Monday.
Reacting to a statement by the Democratic Alliance, which claimed it had information suggesting Skweyiya had been on the controversial flight, the minister's spokesperson, Lakela Kaunda, said: "It is incorrect. He did not go on that trip at all."
Earlier on Monday the DA's Gareth Morgan said his party had "uncorroborated information" that Skweyiya and his wife had accompanied the deputy president to the UAE.
He said this was supported by reports suggesting Mlambo-Ngcuka and her entourage "were hosted in a palace by a member of the UAE royal family".
Reacting to a statement by the Democratic Alliance, which claimed it had information suggesting Skweyiya had been on the controversial flight, the minister's spokesperson, Lakela Kaunda, said: "It is incorrect. He did not go on that trip at all."
Earlier on Monday the DA's Gareth Morgan said his party had "uncorroborated information" that Skweyiya and his wife had accompanied the deputy president to the UAE.
He said this was supported by reports suggesting Mlambo-Ngcuka and her entourage "were hosted in a palace by a member of the UAE royal family".
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I'm sure someone on PPrune can assist the DA investigation....probe, test. They too are a puppet party...seems the stay was better than the Six star venue...nothing to do with fairness???!!!
The poor in the townships are rumbling....BRING NELSON BACK! I'm sure this was never in his personal game plan, nor would've allowed it.
The poor in the townships are rumbling....BRING NELSON BACK! I'm sure this was never in his personal game plan, nor would've allowed it.
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Looking at the SA govt, it's a pretty incestuous place with family and friends of the chosen sharing all the top jobs.
Guess the sh#t remains the same, then. Only the flies have changed.... 
Though I don't recall many wives having ministerial posts along with their husbands in the old days. No shortage of cousins and brothers in law, though..
Guess the sh#t remains the same, then. Only the flies have changed....
Though I don't recall many wives having ministerial posts along with their husbands in the old days. No shortage of cousins and brothers in law, though..
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Give credit where it is due : ERIKA GIBSON you have the Goverment in turmoil dear lady ...
ALL the major SA news web sites has some sort of article on their front pages - a clear indication of the impact that this has.
IOL / NEWS 24 / Bus Rep / iAfrica / Bus Day / and of course DIE BURGER where it all started
Well done - Maybe Mt Everest is too small to climb for you
Volle Berig uit die burger
ALL the major SA news web sites has some sort of article on their front pages - a clear indication of the impact that this has.
IOL / NEWS 24 / Bus Rep / iAfrica / Bus Day / and of course DIE BURGER where it all started
Well done - Maybe Mt Everest is too small to climb for you
’n Krisisvergadering is gistermiddag op die hoogste vlak gehou om die skade te probeer beperk wat die onthullings oor adj.pres. Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka se besoek aan die Verenigde Arabiese Emirate (VAE) aan die regering se beeld aanrig – binnelands én internasionaal.
Na wat Die Burger verneem, het sy gister met mnr. Murphy Morobe, hoof van kommunikasie in die presidensie, vergader om ’n strategie te bespreek sodat die persepsie dat die gebeure toegesmeer word, einde kan kry.
’n Omvattende aankondiging waarin die presidensie oop kaarte speel, word vir die nabye toekoms voorsien, dalk nog vandag.
Na wat Die Burger verneem, het sy gister met mnr. Murphy Morobe, hoof van kommunikasie in die presidensie, vergader om ’n strategie te bespreek sodat die persepsie dat die gebeure toegesmeer word, einde kan kry.
’n Omvattende aankondiging waarin die presidensie oop kaarte speel, word vir die nabye toekoms voorsien, dalk nog vandag.
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Good work! You too Guns, thanks on behalf of the whole of SA. Funny how the truth always seeks the light?
How open will the cards be, right into the bratha's sipping cognac and smoking cigar's in Braamfontein and beyond....see that Bush feels that the freemason Jackson's dream has not been realized yet. Well had he said that without membership to that bunch....ever, it may have been somthing completely different.
The relevance here...check the free media....."on our wings and a prayer", hello Beechjet!
How open will the cards be, right into the bratha's sipping cognac and smoking cigar's in Braamfontein and beyond....see that Bush feels that the freemason Jackson's dream has not been realized yet. Well had he said that without membership to that bunch....ever, it may have been somthing completely different.
The relevance here...check the free media....."on our wings and a prayer", hello Beechjet!
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This is a never - ending story .. and it get's better the more they open their mouths
News 24
The Emir of the United Arab Emirates hosted South Africa deputy president Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka during her recent holiday to his country at a guest house, the South African presidency spokesperson Murphy Morobe said on Wednesday.
There were, however, no "government-to-government" discussions as the deputy president was on holiday at the time.
Morobe, addressing a press conference at the Union Buildings in Pretoria but beamed to Cape Town, told I-Net Bridge that Mlambo-Ngcuka's husband, former politician and former National Director of Public Prosecutions boss Bulelani Ngcuka attended purely as "the spouse" on holiday with his wife and two children. No business transactions were discussed during this trip.
Morobe confirmed that welfare minister Zola Skweyiya's wife Thuthukile Mazibuko-Skweyiya had been on board the flight to Abu Dhabi. Also on board were two children of the deputy president's personal assistant.
While it is not clear why the personal assistant took another flight, Morobe said she was part of the delegation to the UAE. He could not confirm the costs involved for the trip but he emphasized that the deputy president had not broken the law and there had been "no intent on wrongdoing".
Her trip was signed away by the director general in the presidency, Frank Chikane.
"The process of costing (the trip) takes some while," he said. The opposition has estimated that the trip cost in the region of R700 000 including about R400 000 for the flight on a South African Air Force Falcon. The ultimate costs would "become part of public knowledge", he said.
Both the official opposition Democratic Alliance and Freedom Front Plus have said they would ask the Public Protector to investigate whether the deputy president broke any laws or regulations applying to her office. The DA specifically asked for a probe into the activities of the deputy president's spouse during the trip.
Project management
The duration of the trip was from December 27 to December 31. Morobe said that Mazibuko-Skweyiya had been taken along not only because she was a friend but also because of her skills in project management with particular focus on the empowerment of women.
Responding to criticism that a friend had apparently been taken on a holiday joyride, Morobe said in fact it should be commendable that "instead of just lying in the sun", the deputy president had chosen to visit development projects.
Mazibuko Skweyiya had been chosen because of her expertise. This was within the rules of the travel of the deputy president, he said.
Referring to her stay in the UAE, Morobe noted that the costs of accommodation and travel - which would normally be for the account of the deputy president - were paid for by the UAE. He also said that the required security and medical detail of the deputy president had also been on the trip.
There were, however, no "government-to-government" discussions as the deputy president was on holiday at the time.
Morobe, addressing a press conference at the Union Buildings in Pretoria but beamed to Cape Town, told I-Net Bridge that Mlambo-Ngcuka's husband, former politician and former National Director of Public Prosecutions boss Bulelani Ngcuka attended purely as "the spouse" on holiday with his wife and two children. No business transactions were discussed during this trip.
Morobe confirmed that welfare minister Zola Skweyiya's wife Thuthukile Mazibuko-Skweyiya had been on board the flight to Abu Dhabi. Also on board were two children of the deputy president's personal assistant.
While it is not clear why the personal assistant took another flight, Morobe said she was part of the delegation to the UAE. He could not confirm the costs involved for the trip but he emphasized that the deputy president had not broken the law and there had been "no intent on wrongdoing".
Her trip was signed away by the director general in the presidency, Frank Chikane.
"The process of costing (the trip) takes some while," he said. The opposition has estimated that the trip cost in the region of R700 000 including about R400 000 for the flight on a South African Air Force Falcon. The ultimate costs would "become part of public knowledge", he said.
Both the official opposition Democratic Alliance and Freedom Front Plus have said they would ask the Public Protector to investigate whether the deputy president broke any laws or regulations applying to her office. The DA specifically asked for a probe into the activities of the deputy president's spouse during the trip.
Project management
The duration of the trip was from December 27 to December 31. Morobe said that Mazibuko-Skweyiya had been taken along not only because she was a friend but also because of her skills in project management with particular focus on the empowerment of women.
Responding to criticism that a friend had apparently been taken on a holiday joyride, Morobe said in fact it should be commendable that "instead of just lying in the sun", the deputy president had chosen to visit development projects.
Mazibuko Skweyiya had been chosen because of her expertise. This was within the rules of the travel of the deputy president, he said.
Referring to her stay in the UAE, Morobe noted that the costs of accommodation and travel - which would normally be for the account of the deputy president - were paid for by the UAE. He also said that the required security and medical detail of the deputy president had also been on the trip.