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Old 9th Nov 2006, 09:25
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Sir Alex speaks on demographics for SAA

1. South Africa Airways (SAA) has established the following broad transformation guidelines with regard to pilots:

Table 1: Transformation Target for SAA Pilots - as at the end of August
2005 Plan2005 Actual2006 Plan 2006 Actual2009 PlanPDI7%8.3%8.8%8.3%13.5%White Females2%4.5%4.9%8.3%6.6%White Males 90%87.2%86.3%86.9%79.9%Total Headcount 765817817798817
(a) The above transformation guidelines are based on a number of assumptions, including headcount, labour turnover, number of qualifying cadets, operational levels, and are reviewed annually.
(b) The table below represents the actual number of South African historically disadvantaged pilots employed over the predetermined periods:

Table 2: Historically Disadvantaged Pilots Employed - as at the end of August
AM
CMIMAFCFIFWFTotal2004
6
0301010202005
3
030014112006*
0
0000000Total
9
060111431
2. The table below represents the SAA Cadet Pilot intake of white candidates over the given period:
Table 3: Training of White Persons as Pilots - as at the end of August

Year
White Female
White Male
2004
5
2
2005
1
0
2006
0
0
Total
6
2

The reduction in the number of white males undergoing pilot training is directly related to the highly skewed current SAA pilot figures in favour of white males, which necessitates the need to focus all available training on PDI Candidates. Coupled to this is the fact that there is a large supply, or pool, of already suitably qualified white male pilots, who can be recruited directly into SAA as pilots. The 2006 Cadet Pilot Training programme is scheduled to commence on 23 October 2006, and a further 2 white females have been selected, to participate therein.

3. It must be noted that SAA does not train employees in-house to become pilots, but rather recruits already qualified pilots and thereafter trains such pilots to become competent on fleet specific aircraft. The Cadet Pilot scheme assists non-employees to train, and when competent, to qualify as a pilot. Once a cadet has successfully completed the training programme, SAA has the first option of recruiting him/her.
To date SAA has not implemented a revised shorter or cheaper training programme for pilots, and the current Cadet Pilot Training programme, which has been in operation for the past twelve years in partnership with 43 Air School, remains in place. In order to qualify as a private and thereafter commercial pilot, cadets must be declared competent in terms of the standards and requirements stipulated by the South African Civil Aviation Authority (SACAA). 43 Air School, situated in Port Alfred, is a duly accredited institution, authorised by the SACAA to train, assess and declare cadets competent for specific pilot licenses.
4. In terms of the in-house training of SAA pilots, an IATA Operational Safety Audit was recently conducted on SAA by accredited international experts; the positive results thereof are a clear indication that all internal pilot related training, meets the required national and international standards. Additionally both Boeing and Airbus conduct annual audits on SAA Flight Operations and Training. Quote from the 2006 Boeing audit "SAA has a professional, experienced and highly motivated Flight Operations Department."
SAA is currently in the initial stages of exploring the concept of Multi-Crew pilots' licence (MCPL) which is specifically designed to meet the needs of airline operations worldwide. The need for the MCPL has been driven by the upsurge in air travel in recent years and the inability of the traditional flight training organisations to provide sufficient quantities of airline pilots and at reasonable cost. It is envisaged that Multi-Crew pilots' licence will be implemented by most airlines, once the Licensing Standards have been published by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) expected later this year. A SAA feasibility study is currently at the initial phase, and amongst others still needs to ensure the participation of the relevant stakeholders, design of the curriculum and course material, alignment to national and international qualification and competency standards, and obtaining SACAA's final approval. The Multi-Crew pilots training programme will take approximately two years to successfully complete, with the main focus being on airline specific operations and flying. The programme will include a significant amount of simulator training, in areas unique to airline operations. A cadet who successfully completes the Multi-Crew pilots' programme will be competent to fill the position of first officer on either a Boeing 737 or Airbus 319 narrow body short range airliner.


Alec Erwin, MP
Minister of Public Enterprises

Portia Molefe
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Old 9th Nov 2006, 13:57
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And provided that the delegated training organisations are not 'leaned' on in any way to allow marginal candidates through in order to maintain quotas.. it may well work.
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Originally Posted by ested
...necessitates the need to focus all available training on PDI Candidates. Coupled to this is the fact that there is a large supply, or pool, of already suitably qualified white male pilots, who can be recruited directly into SAA as pilots...

...SAA is currently in the initial stages of exploring the concept of Multi-Crew pilots' licence (MCPL) which is specifically designed to meet the needs of airline operations worldwide. The need for the MCPL has been driven by the upsurge in air travel in recent years and the inability of the traditional flight training organisations to provide sufficient quantities of airline pilots and at reasonable cost.
Sounds like a contradiction to me.
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12 years down the line?
SAA cadet pilot programme september 2006

Demographics: total(134)
African male 42
African female 2
Indian male 18
Indian female 4
Coloured male 21
Coloured female 5
White male 13
White female 29

African 33% White 31% Coloured 19% Indian 16%

Hmmmmn! makes me wonder
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From the mouth

So, from the mouth of the man himself, (who evidently is an authority on Airline flightdecks), YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 300hr ,+-, pilots, occupying the right hand seat of an advanced airliner, in a 2 person crew environment.
But it will be OK! Stop being paranoid! Technology has replaced experience sufficiently by now. Just ask the manufacturers of Airbus, (or Boeing).
The Captain won't get sick or incapacitated, the Co-pilot will NEVER be expected to complete the task on his own, in foul weather, with a fuel leak just high of one of the engines firewall-fuel shut off valves.
Azores 330
Canadian 767 etc etc......
Dominoes?? What the hell have Dominoes got to do with Airline operations?? We're talking profits and politics here!! don't come with your own personal agenda here, just because our envisaged solution doesn't fit your requirements!
Well done politicians! You're the brains of the country after all.

Oh yes, don't forget to shower!
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