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Old 31st Dec 2005, 10:34
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Goodday Bert,

What new car you talking about??? You know something that i dont?

Seasons greatings all
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 15:05
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I do begin to wonder about all of this.

Bert slings his arrows...others sling their arrows....

The arrow catchers respond by saying ...."OH Yeah...OH yeah!"

We hear of the CAA being there....bad parts...bad engineering...unlicensed pilots...unlicensed aircraft...but yet...it keeps going?

It would appear to me...if the nay sayers are right...the operation would be out of business...or they would be facing legal action for slander and libel.

Now what is it guys....ya'll just agree to disagree and it is all equivalent to beer talk and no one takes this thing serious or...does the one side not care to resort to a formal venue to determine if the allegations are valid thus alluding to having some very dirty laundry they wish not to hang out for all to see in court?
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You have to be there to understand.
First the Huey is a tough aircraft. These folks prove it beyond a doubt.
Second there is no CAA to enforce rules......plain and simple.
And lastly they are making enough money to pay off anyone who may stand up.......
Things work well given those conditions. Its a matter of time.........
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Civil Courts there like in the USA, Bert....with vultures that sit on the airport fence waiting for an opportunity to pick the meat off the bones?
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Old 1st Jan 2006, 05:36
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Question
Why would they take the Huey out of service for two weeks for a minor tail rotor problem if they could just bung an old part on and fly?

Someone does care.

Bert as you are such a Huey expert maybe you should apply for the inspectors job at SACAA!!!

Thanks to all and happy flying in 2006
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Bert as you are such a Huey expert maybe you should apply for the inspectors job at SACAA!!!
Trust me, If SACAA had some teeth and I was working there, you would be back to sizing Sparkplugs in your Lawn Mower.

And besides remember when I mentioned every time you open your mouth you insert both feet. We were all led to believe by LH there WAS NO tail rotor problem. But I guess by sneaking into the Air Force base did cure some of the ills.
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Bert, with all due respect to the Kennel Keeper, he has the fact wrong. Nothing to do with the tail rotor itself.

We had a prob with the little chain which twisted, which in turn caused the peddles to become somewhat stiff but still functional.

We inspect the chain on a weekly basis and replace it it after every 100 hours service. ****e happens with any A/c and the pilot of the day made the correct decision by taking the A/c to Ysterplaat.

It so happens that with our Huey, whenever we have a prob the whole world (the States included - thanks to the select few) come down on our heads. Other operaters have their snags too ( i know of some incidents which have not being reported by "other operators" - not my concern") (crap attitude to have but im tired of fingers pointed at me/us all the time).

Anyways, the Huey will survive and will be around for a long time. We learn everyday and everyday we get stronger. In short you will spend the rest of your days chatting and worring about what we do.

I leave it at that, Bert.

Ps. We dont mind constructive criticism,so fire away...

Regards and safe flying all
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

We had a prob with the little chain which twisted, which in turn caused the peddles to become somewhat stiff but still functional.
The "Little Chain" is built not to twist. Sounds like it was tired.........


We inspect the chain on a weekly basis and replace it it after every 100 hours service. ****e happens with any A/c and the pilot of the day made the correct decision by taking the A/c to Ysterplaat.
Inspect, questionable and its not replaced every hundred hours. They last for years. As to the Pilot making a correct decision, that would be that he should have decided not to fly in the first place.
Better check the Airframe where the skids meet. No doubt the bounce will have caused a bit of damage.........
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HOOK LINE AND SINKER - THE XPERT LIMP SQUID TAKES THE BAIT!!!!!!!

My post was merely a trap to see if certain people take the bait!!

We are surely blessed in african aviation and must go down in history as the only engineering faculty which has experts on the other side of the world who can determine the serviceability of an aircraft or its components from a distance.

Boeing or Bell helicopter would surely pay an exorbitant sum of money to have such a far sighted individual as their inspector.

Imagine being able to tell the engineers or pilot how a component will fail without even being near the aircraft.
The NTSB would be very privelaged to have someone who could determine the cause of an accident or incident without even going near the aircraft.


And for those who dont know the definition of expert
X is an undefined quantity
Spert is a drip under pressure
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

I don't think it's so much as putting out the bait......

It's more like one not really knowing. I mean, it's really crazy if two people in the same company contradict each other as to what was actually wrong.

KK is an engineer, so he probably knows. As for LH, he's a public relations consultant gone wrong! The Quay side sales team tried to sell my friends some tickets on Sunday, and upon a number of pressing questions, the sales agent ran out of ideas. Maybe the LH should spend more time training the sales staff how to lie convincingly, instead of spending his days posting duff gen on the pprune.

Rumour at the V&A Waterfront Helipad is that the Chief Huey Pilot resigned today. He's apparently not convinced about the safety of the Huey.

What next?
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

LH,

Which maintenance schedule are you using for the inspections on the aircraft? The US Army system using the FM's for the Huey? That is what we use where I work.

Changing the chains every one hundred hours? They get wear.....I would think you would overhaul the worn chains and re-use them...that sure is easier than finding new ones.
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[QUOTE]My post was merely a trap to see if certain people take the bait!!QUOTE]

You are certainly a Moron......What more can be said... Im surprised the the "G" man hasnt done your dental work like he did on LH.....You guys are a pair to draw too. (Thats a Poker term for you non Vega$ folks)

And for those who dont know the definition of Moron, its a mentally retarded person with a mental age between 7 and 12 years of age or an Intelligence Quotient of between 50 and 75


Chief Huey Pilot resigned today
AI who would that be.??...So many folks fly there, some may even be licensed.
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Had a chat to the old bag trying to flog huey tickets in the V&A......what a circus!

KK - Looking at your last post, you'd make a perfect ring master!
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Well the rumors are certainly flying today.
Rumor has it the Fox is out on bail. Pilots who have or still want to fly may be arrested.......
The Huey is in the worst condition it has ever seen. (Consider it was junk when they obtained it.)
AND Kennel Keeper may be the new Director of Maintenance again......Give the man a Hammer and a Screw Driver and the Huey will be smoking down the road....soon
Who let the dogs out...Woof.Woofff
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Old 6th Jan 2006, 11:51
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

The Huey has been in and out of HeliBase the whole day today, so someone is flying it!
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Considering who the rumor mill says is the "Pilot" and the condition of the aircraft, keep your eyes on things..........Could get real interesting.......
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Is this the same guys that was on top billing a few months ago. My wife was going to stick me a ride on one of them as i love choppers and never been on one. But after reading this and see how Latin Heat respond to all your questions i'm not so sure any more.
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Seems like the Huey did a test flight around the Peninsula today. So, is this ZU-CVC,which is still grounded, or are they test flying the "new" ZU-UHI?

If they put the last mentioned heli into service, does this mean that we will be having this whole saga from the beginning

Also see that they are now driving pax from the Waterfront pad to heli-base using an old school bus......

Safe Flying to all in 2006!
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Quote "Also see that they are now driving pax from the Waterfront pad to heli-base using an old school bus......". If this is true, surely the bus has a valid Certificate of Roadworthiness, a valid Licence Disk, a valid Operators Permit, and has undergone the required inspection (according to Public Transportation Laws & Regulations). Furthermore, surely the driver has been licenced in the public transport category and has undergone the required medical(s) as required by the relevant laws and regulations. All the aforesaid read with applicable bylaws where relavant to transportation operations at the V&A.
On the other hand Darren, suppose Translux don't do short hops or it's another adrenalin advancing adventure sold by them to enhance the Huey flips. Maybe they should have thought about a Gauteng minibus or two when doing the business plan on this one.
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Re: The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

I have been reading the Huey Saga with some interest.I have had some involvement with the Huey but refuse to name when or why and what role I played.

The Huey is a beautiful machine airworthy or not. I personally would not ride in it again however I really hope for everyones sake that is DOES NOT come crashing down for that would be a tradegy.I am certain every heli operation on the waterfront has some skeletons in their closests and at some stage or another have done some illegal things.Every one is human everyone wants to make money.

what is more interesting is how would anyone know about "parts being re-used" etc?i am certain that u have not seen it first hand and are only relying on "reliable" information.i wonder where it all comes from? I have travelled all over the world and the one thing that is comman is that ppl will b***h about anything and everything.

Mr Van de merwe came up with a brilliant idea and the customers have generally all been pleased with the experience.there are a few unhappy im sure but every single company has them for gods sake!!!I met some very satisfied customers of the huey club and they loved every minute of it.I am very sure that clients know the risks involved in flying in a HELICOPTER regardless of the company.walking across the street is a risk but u dont sit there and b***h and whine all day bout it.we get over it.Without the huey u all would have so little to complain about it makes me wonder if u just complain cos there isnt anythign else?so my advice it to act mature and forget about it. and if one day god forbid someone gets hurt then u can sit and be all smug and say "i told you so"i but in the mean time grow up please.
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