ZS-FUN off the runway - Kinshasa DRC
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ZS-FUN off the runway - Kinshasa DRC
Learjet reg: ZS-FUN (SOS Air Ambulance) landed Rwy 06, Kinshsasa (I am told last night????? not confrimed) and was severely damaged.
The aircraft was recovered from the edge of the runway about an hour ago to allow the heavy aircraft to make use of the full runway.
The aircraft was recovered from the edge of the runway about an hour ago to allow the heavy aircraft to make use of the full runway.
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Re: ZS-FUN off the runway - Kinshasa DRC
Crew very lucky,seems to have gone off the runway, and then back on again, broke left strut off, r/h gear also broke loose, a/c not to badly damaged. Hope crew are okay.
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Wishing the boys (or girls) the best of luck. You guys are always doing an Awesome job out there, all days and most nights. 
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Re: ZS-FUN off the runway - Kinshasa DRC
broke left strut off, r/h gear also broke loose, a/c not to badly damaged
Not to(o) badly damaged - well sure - it still had a good looking nose wheel.4HP
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BYAIRMAIL.....really uncalled for, enlighten me as to why you say that. I know the crew involved very well, and your little statement....I just shake my head. Come right man.
Aquaplaning due to inexperience?? Yes its possible, however I have millions of incident reports for you to read which will teach you otherwise .Seems like you need some education.
PS: The crew are fine, just arrived back in SA courtesy of their DA20.
Aquaplaning due to inexperience?? Yes its possible, however I have millions of incident reports for you to read which will teach you otherwise .Seems like you need some education.
PS: The crew are fine, just arrived back in SA courtesy of their DA20.
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"By Airmail" - you ignorant twit !!!
Dude where do you get off making a comment like that ????
Especially as you obviously have no clue as to who the crew are or who the operator is.
For your information, the operator is one of the finest part 138 operations you will find in the world and the crew concerned have a collective time on type in excess 0f 4000 hours, the captain is one of the most experienced Learjet commanders south of the equator.
I have never worked for this company myself but the dealings that I have had with them led me to beleive that they are definatly a very slick operation and that crew experience , or lack thereof , would definatly not be a factor.
Real glad that everyone is OK.
Dude where do you get off making a comment like that ????
Especially as you obviously have no clue as to who the crew are or who the operator is.
For your information, the operator is one of the finest part 138 operations you will find in the world and the crew concerned have a collective time on type in excess 0f 4000 hours, the captain is one of the most experienced Learjet commanders south of the equator.
I have never worked for this company myself but the dealings that I have had with them led me to beleive that they are definatly a very slick operation and that crew experience , or lack thereof , would definatly not be a factor.
Real glad that everyone is OK.
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By Airmail.........
I think you may want to remove your previous post.....as it is completely out of line. You are in no position to make such a comment, and I hope it was just a momentary lapse of judgement on your part.
So to avoid any further backlash - I strongly suggest you think about what you post before actually posting it.....as I am sure you dont want to be remember as a **** do you?
I think you may want to remove your previous post.....as it is completely out of line. You are in no position to make such a comment, and I hope it was just a momentary lapse of judgement on your part.
So to avoid any further backlash - I strongly suggest you think about what you post before actually posting it.....as I am sure you dont want to be remember as a **** do you?
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Re: ZS-FUN off the runway - Kinshasa DRC
Gents I am very far away and it is difficult to get the news over here. Just curious and without naming names -are any of the crew involved the regular operators of ZS TOY? Used to work with those chaps and as said here before they're pretty much two of the most proffessional guys around.
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So we say no more..for the time being, you want the story, just be patient,,!! No more childish comments will be tolerated....
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Come on Guys !
Pointing fingers with no hard and firm info??? Hope that never happens to you !
I understand my ex girlfriend may have been the PIC, and past relationships aside, she is one of the most professional pilots in the non scheduled business in Africa - bar none.(Gee that hurt ! - but its true!)
These things do happen on very wet runways, (having shredded a Citation's tyres AT FALA myself), and I am sure that at least two people on this forum will do the same thing during their careers.
The insinuation made that they landed becasue they were bingo fuel is also not justified, as Brazza was a stones throw away.
The reality of the situation is simply.....**** happens, and there but for the grace of God go I.........
These people are my opposition in the industry, but finger pointing without facts does everybody an injustice, and in my experience, the crew (captain anyway) are experienced aviators.
If the FACTS, at a later date show otherwise, lets rant then???
Pointing fingers with no hard and firm info??? Hope that never happens to you !
I understand my ex girlfriend may have been the PIC, and past relationships aside, she is one of the most professional pilots in the non scheduled business in Africa - bar none.(Gee that hurt ! - but its true!)
These things do happen on very wet runways, (having shredded a Citation's tyres AT FALA myself), and I am sure that at least two people on this forum will do the same thing during their careers.
The insinuation made that they landed becasue they were bingo fuel is also not justified, as Brazza was a stones throw away.
The reality of the situation is simply.....**** happens, and there but for the grace of God go I.........
These people are my opposition in the industry, but finger pointing without facts does everybody an injustice, and in my experience, the crew (captain anyway) are experienced aviators.
If the FACTS, at a later date show otherwise, lets rant then???
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Re: ZS-FUN off the runway - Kinshasa DRC
Exactly, ZS-FUN is not the first and will not be the last... We might be next!
ByAirmail... "Location: in the hold"? Well, with this kind of attitude, you may never be cleared out of it...
Good luck to the guys involved in this mishap.
ByAirmail... "Location: in the hold"? Well, with this kind of attitude, you may never be cleared out of it...
Good luck to the guys involved in this mishap.
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who are you to tell people what to write pirate....?
just because you dont like or agree with the persons statement...
'No more childish comments will be tolerated....' who are you, the headmaster?
just because you dont like or agree with the persons statement...
'No more childish comments will be tolerated....' who are you, the headmaster?
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I am no one, just some one who hates hearing silly little comments from folks who think they know...there's a difference between not liking/agreeing and knowing the truth, and also knowing that certain comments are childish and irresponsible. Thats all...
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Jees guys....Pitot tube covers at dawn or what ????
Come now guys we all grown ups here or so I would like to believe....
As for 'airmails' comment well to be honest I have found more intelligence in the dirt under my shoe !!!!!
I really dig this site and all who post on it so lets not get to character bashing because of one stupid amoeba (dunno if spelt correctly)
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Have worked with the Operators of ZS-FUN, a lovely little aerie and a great bunch of guys that own it! Hope FUN is going to be back to its normal self soon. Trust the crew are not too shaken up.
As for the comment on crew experience ...... I don't have to say anything further, I think it has been adequately covered - thanks guys.
As for the comment on crew experience ...... I don't have to say anything further, I think it has been adequately covered - thanks guys.
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so is anyone going to give any facts as to why this happened, or even just enlighten us a little more as to what actually happened...time of day of incident/accident, weather conditions...etc, etc.
and accidents do happen to experienced pilots, so why the excuse...i know these people and they are very expereinced...
and accidents do happen to experienced pilots, so why the excuse...i know these people and they are very expereinced...