A Flighing Frelon in Cape Town
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A Flighing Frelon in Cape Town
I see on www.Airpic.co.za that the Frelon has once again grased the african sky line. Hope this does not turn out to be another Huey senario!.
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"This Super Frelon is the only airworthy example in South Africa today." ....... as per the Airpic site!
I will be very surprised if this helicopter's been certified by the SACAA, and issued with an Airworthiness Certificate.
As far as I remember, the Frelon was never type certified, and the French Manufacturer had no interest in supporting it in a civilian role.
Maybe someone can enlighten me???
Also, why did the aircraft not fly as ZS-HTN for nearly 20 years??
I will be very surprised if this helicopter's been certified by the SACAA, and issued with an Airworthiness Certificate.
As far as I remember, the Frelon was never type certified, and the French Manufacturer had no interest in supporting it in a civilian role.
Maybe someone can enlighten me???
Also, why did the aircraft not fly as ZS-HTN for nearly 20 years??
It was a matter of time before the obvious questions as to the legitimacy of this project are asked--- and the whole thing again descends into Huey like farce
I assume the Frelon must have had a CofA years ago, being on the ZS register? - but to be made current and re issued for new owners, Helibase, a new cert of release to service must be issued. By who, given that gearbox and engines would surely be due calendar o’haul and inspection? If not a special flight permit and test pilot (no one is current that’s for sure) would have been required for flight.
I believe there are no serviceable blades available in the world, and a few were bent in Lanseria, where did they get blades?
The above could all be called nasty conjecture if our friends are going to paint out the S in ZS and substitute a U – then take the magnificent beast to display at airshows and thereafter donate it to the SAAF museum…ja ja
Can’t wait for the next episode…nor can the CAA I’m sure.
I assume the Frelon must have had a CofA years ago, being on the ZS register? - but to be made current and re issued for new owners, Helibase, a new cert of release to service must be issued. By who, given that gearbox and engines would surely be due calendar o’haul and inspection? If not a special flight permit and test pilot (no one is current that’s for sure) would have been required for flight.
I believe there are no serviceable blades available in the world, and a few were bent in Lanseria, where did they get blades?
The above could all be called nasty conjecture if our friends are going to paint out the S in ZS and substitute a U – then take the magnificent beast to display at airshows and thereafter donate it to the SAAF museum…ja ja
Can’t wait for the next episode…nor can the CAA I’m sure.
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BB it surely will be nice to see a great piece of helicopter flighing through our skies.
Sadly I must say I already have my doubts about the legality of things.
Hope I am wrong and all doc's are in place this time.
Sadly I must say I already have my doubts about the legality of things.
Hope I am wrong and all doc's are in place this time.
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Glimmerman, you twitch good bait however im not going to waste time explaining the "Legality"of ZS-HTN to you.
Yes Gunns only time will tell and here's hoping that the rumour mongering will then grind to a halt.
Tassies on me when this is all over.
Yes Gunns only time will tell and here's hoping that the rumour mongering will then grind to a halt.
Tassies on me when this is all over.
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Tassies on me when this is all over.
yeah let's hope all things are legal and we have a nice machine with three motors buzzing around
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NRWR, thanks for initiating the thread, lovely to see.As per previous posts,not going to get into airworthiness debates, just for the love of the machine, great to see her in the air again.
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Lets see. This thing was pieced together by the folks at Helibase??
OK, what different would one expect ??
Whats with this bait stuff. All you morons keep saying your baiting everyone. I dont think you have a clue during any of your awake moments what "Legal" really means.
Since its such a rare aircraft and based on where it is now, it would probably be wiser to put it on static dispaly rather than suffer a loss.
GM, FM is away for a while, doubt that he really is concerned.
Maybe something from the Wild West will fill in the blanks.
OK, what different would one expect ??
you twitch good bait however im not going to waste time explaining the "Legality"of ZS-HTN to you.
Since its such a rare aircraft and based on where it is now, it would probably be wiser to put it on static dispaly rather than suffer a loss.
GM, FM is away for a while, doubt that he really is concerned.
Maybe something from the Wild West will fill in the blanks.
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Dean, AMO 938 has opened doors for you. Bring your cam, go for a ride in the Putco and post your opinion.
For the rest of you, the Frelon is all in order, paper work etc.
If only you could see the DE's smile
For the rest of you, the Frelon is all in order, paper work etc.
If only you could see the DE's smile
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Putco Airborne
Hey Chaps, thanx for the nice posts, (some of you). As for the rest... WHATEVER!
Judging by the hardness of the beast currently restrained by my zipper after two half hour sorties in the 'Putco' I'm DEFINITELY not out of town. Methinks youre a little confused about a few things, one of them being my identity! HAR!
Dean bru, pull in for a cold one right now if you wish, I'm buying!
Baksteen ole buddy, dunno yet, got summink ya want lifted?
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Sorry Bravedave, not so. Also bout the blades. This isnt the only Frelon flying in the world, you know. Have you ever heard of a Z-8?
Gotta go, friends and frosties waiting
Safe aviating everyone
FM is away for a while, doubt that he really is concerned.
Dean bru, pull in for a cold one right now if you wish, I'm buying!
Good to see the Frelon in the air. Any word on what the application will be after the restoration?
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Sorry Bravedave, not so. Also bout the blades. This isnt the only Frelon flying in the world, you know. Have you ever heard of a Z-8?
Gotta go, friends and frosties waiting
Safe aviating everyone
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The Zhi-8 (Z-8) is the naval utility helicopter built by Changhe Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) in Jingdezhen, Jiangxi Province. The helicopter is a reverse-engineering of the French SA 321Ja Super Frelon utility helicopter, which is also in service with the PLA Navy in a small number. The Z-8 is also produced in army transport variant Z-8A and utility variant Z-8F.
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GM, FM is away for a while, doubt that he really is concerned.
One concerned one Frelonius Maximus (note FRELONius
... and Francois Marais.
The helicopter is a reverse-engineering of the French SA 321Ja Super Frelon utility helicopter
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I'm DEFINITELY not out of town. Methinks youre a little confused about a few things, one of them being my identity! HAR!
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