C210 Crash in Namibia
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check front page of Die Republikein at www.republikein.com.na Its very sad indeed, especially if you spent so much time with the pilot dicussing the survey exercise and the safety aspect
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Thanks for the link Voel.
The photograph unfortunately confirms our worst fears.
Perhaps when the cause is found if at all, the rest of us who have been luckier may learn from it.
Something may come out from the tradgedy.
As you say it's sad but even more so when you've spent time with the crew.
The photograph unfortunately confirms our worst fears.
Perhaps when the cause is found if at all, the rest of us who have been luckier may learn from it.
Something may come out from the tradgedy.
As you say it's sad but even more so when you've spent time with the crew.
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Zeebee, I guess you will not be in a position to read the newspaper, but the one pilot used to be an Australian and the other one from New Zealand. Both known to me very well.
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Another sad day in Aviation!
Having flown C210 (awesome plane) in Namibia for the last three years till a few months ago, I got to know most of the WA crew. Was it their pilots flying, did not know they employed foreign crew or were they only employed to do the survey flying?! Working in another African country at the moment, and only found out about the accident here. Does anybody maybe know who the pilots was?
Having flown C210 (awesome plane) in Namibia for the last three years till a few months ago, I got to know most of the WA crew. Was it their pilots flying, did not know they employed foreign crew or were they only employed to do the survey flying?! Working in another African country at the moment, and only found out about the accident here. Does anybody maybe know who the pilots was?
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I think the pilot was an awesome Kiwi bloke who used to fly for Hardy's in Darwin, then went up to Horn Island with Aerotropics. He was doing this survey job for a couple of months before heading back to NZ to start with Eagle over there.
He will be missed by all the old Darwin boys (and lots of the girls too I think...) RIP Tripod
He will be missed by all the old Darwin boys (and lots of the girls too I think...) RIP Tripod
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Cessna down - Windhoek
Two killed in plane crash
22/10/2005 12:25
Two foreign nationals have been killed in plane crash in Windhoek, Nambia, SABC radio news reported on Saturday.
The two men, an Australian and a New Zealander, were in the country conducting geographical research when their Cessna plane crashed south of the capital.
It's believed they were blinded by the sun as they came over a mountain ridge and flew into the ground.
Their names have not yet been released, SABC reported.
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22/10/2005 12:25
Two foreign nationals have been killed in plane crash in Windhoek, Nambia, SABC radio news reported on Saturday.
The two men, an Australian and a New Zealander, were in the country conducting geographical research when their Cessna plane crashed south of the capital.
It's believed they were blinded by the sun as they came over a mountain ridge and flew into the ground.
Their names have not yet been released, SABC reported.
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Sad to say....classical and predictable survey accident. Single engine piston, probably 1st line of the day flying heavy, high alt and low to the ground with limited viz into the sun with mountainous terrain to deal with.
8 or 9 yrs ago a similar accident in Namibia claimed the lives of 2 Canadians doing exactly the same in a multi piston.
Interested to find out whether these guys were here to do this on a temporary basis with little or no survey experience in their past flying career.
Should not have happened........
My condolences to all family and friends.
8 or 9 yrs ago a similar accident in Namibia claimed the lives of 2 Canadians doing exactly the same in a multi piston.
Interested to find out whether these guys were here to do this on a temporary basis with little or no survey experience in their past flying career.
Should not have happened........
My condolences to all family and friends.
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Agreed StayinAlive that it was sad and shouldn't have happened, but I think you're drawing a long bow with the rest of your assumptions, given that we still don't really know what happened.
While I can't speak for the Kiwi pilot, I can say that the Australian pilot was very experienced in low level survey flying.
If it was a combination of terrain and sun-glare as one of the reports mentioned, then it highlights one of the few shortcomings of the C210 at low-level. That is, it's poor forward visibility over the instrument panel and engine bay, both of which make low flying in hilly terrain in these aircraft an excercise in faith.
Unfortunately, we will possibly NEVER know what really happened and as such no lessons will be learnt.
While I can't speak for the Kiwi pilot, I can say that the Australian pilot was very experienced in low level survey flying.
If it was a combination of terrain and sun-glare as one of the reports mentioned, then it highlights one of the few shortcomings of the C210 at low-level. That is, it's poor forward visibility over the instrument panel and engine bay, both of which make low flying in hilly terrain in these aircraft an excercise in faith.
Unfortunately, we will possibly NEVER know what really happened and as such no lessons will be learnt.
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Hope u dont get me wrong here....dont think drawing a long bow on this one here and making assumptions...merely after 7000hrs of low level survey behind me and another who knows how many ahead stating that this appears the most likely scenario and one of the most PREVENTABLE.
An organization exists namely IAGSA that was founded 10 or so yrs ago with the aim of eliminating this kind of thing. As far as their recomendations go with regards to Terrain / Temperature / Altitude / Low level risk etc I am pretty confident that they would certainly not agree with a single piston a/c but rather a multi turbine to carry out this type of work in Namibia that is notorious for killing experienced survey crews.
I have my own views on this one but feel that this aint the place to thrash it. I hope IAGSA are watching.........
I hope that we will be able to learn from this unfortunate and definately preventable accident.
Hope u dont get me wrong here....dont think drawing a long bow on this one here and making assumptions...merely after 7000hrs of low level survey behind me and another who knows how many ahead stating that this appears the most likely scenario and one of the most PREVENTABLE.
An organization exists namely IAGSA that was founded 10 or so yrs ago with the aim of eliminating this kind of thing. As far as their recomendations go with regards to Terrain / Temperature / Altitude / Low level risk etc I am pretty confident that they would certainly not agree with a single piston a/c but rather a multi turbine to carry out this type of work in Namibia that is notorious for killing experienced survey crews.
I have my own views on this one but feel that this aint the place to thrash it. I hope IAGSA are watching.........
I hope that we will be able to learn from this unfortunate and definately preventable accident.
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