SAN Parks Board(Kruger) Corruption
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SAN Parks Board(Kruger) Corruption
Heard through the grapevine that there are some more changes on the way at Kruger Park again. Why is it that there is such a large turnover of aircrew at Kruger? Corruption maybe - seems if you do not agree with the CP you are out the door. All good and well if you disregard regulations and company procedures but just because those above you don't like you - I don't think so.
I believe that a number of Safety issues have been raised lately. Seems the Chief Pilot was sweeping a large number of reportable incidents under the carpet. This is of great concern - I was always taught that you report as many incidents as possible so you can reduce the number of major incidents or accidents. (Byrd's Triangle - I think)
I think we all know what's going to happen next - "BOOM" another fatality - I don't think the SA or any other flying fraternity needs that.
My suggestion - sort out the safety aspects first and then get rid of the corruption. If it means the corruption is the major cause of the problems then all will be sorted out - will it not?
CR
I believe that a number of Safety issues have been raised lately. Seems the Chief Pilot was sweeping a large number of reportable incidents under the carpet. This is of great concern - I was always taught that you report as many incidents as possible so you can reduce the number of major incidents or accidents. (Byrd's Triangle - I think)
I think we all know what's going to happen next - "BOOM" another fatality - I don't think the SA or any other flying fraternity needs that.
My suggestion - sort out the safety aspects first and then get rid of the corruption. If it means the corruption is the major cause of the problems then all will be sorted out - will it not?
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Sorry for you mate. This pprune thing is a buddy buddy thing,, small ring of losers in GA who gossip about what could have been if they had have been at the right place at the right time. They talk about the who knew who, blab bla bla, …..Forget it this is Africa, live with it! Law prevails in the first world, not here.
Ahh, Oom, Rule #1: Don't post when you're pissed. When you wake up in the morning you might consider deleting this post & leaving us "small ring of losers" to gossip & blab, bla, bla............
4HP
Ahh, Oom, Rule #1: Don't post when you're pissed. When you wake up in the morning you might consider deleting this post & leaving us "small ring of losers" to gossip & blab, bla, bla............
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Oompie,
It's probably with an attitude like that why safety is a major concern in Africa. Forget what the SACAA is going to do about it - probably nothing - It is what you as an aircrew member are going to do about it.
Don't just say "we'll it's Africa" Everybody has an input and can do something about it.
The majority of aircrew, civilian as well a military(ex as well as present) are extremely proffesional and want to improve the present situation. Mate, with your attitude you are breaking down what they are trying to build.
Same as what is happening at Kruger - Fix it.
CR
It's probably with an attitude like that why safety is a major concern in Africa. Forget what the SACAA is going to do about it - probably nothing - It is what you as an aircrew member are going to do about it.
Don't just say "we'll it's Africa" Everybody has an input and can do something about it.
The majority of aircrew, civilian as well a military(ex as well as present) are extremely proffesional and want to improve the present situation. Mate, with your attitude you are breaking down what they are trying to build.
Same as what is happening at Kruger - Fix it.
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4HP and CR
I couldn't agree with you guys more!!! Safety starts with having the correct attitude, and I don't mean in relation to the horizon, however that helps to!!
OP I dont think "this is Africa" is an excuse to turn a blind eye!
Safe flying to ALL
VM
I couldn't agree with you guys more!!! Safety starts with having the correct attitude, and I don't mean in relation to the horizon, however that helps to!!
OP I dont think "this is Africa" is an excuse to turn a blind eye!
Safe flying to ALL
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New Chief Pilot Sanparks - previously the Safety Officer Sanparks
The gentleman in question and his new brother in arms fresh from Bassair must think that everybody in the small SA industry is as incompetent, sorry maybe the right word is "uninformed" as the managers they work for.
Safety in flying is something you either subsribe to, or you don't.
I don't have to relate it to all the CRM stuff. It all goes about integrity and absolute honesty. It requires the ability to own up to mistakes and through reporting try to prevent repeats or even break the chain leading to eventual accidents.
The CP was appointed in April 2003 as a pilot in Kruger with the explicit responsibility to establish the Safety Management Plan iaw the CARS. He presented a certificate from Court Flight Safety in order to comply with the requirements as was set out in the ad in the S Times.
The man hails from the fairest Cape where his last position was that of CP Base 4. Incidentally an almost meteoric rise from his former position as an Elvis employee.
The two ex SAAF pilots at the time at SANParks gave him as much dual and sticktime as possible to get him settled down in the capture business. Alas that was all he ever did! Reference his delegated responsibility of sorting safety out..........!, "Sorry you want me to write what?' During this period he did manage not to report two incidents(his) of damage to helos. Only owned up until confronted by the other pilots. The other guys left for greener pastures which left him licking his lips for the CP position.
Alas he was overlooked due to lack of fixedwing, instrument and instructional qualifications. Ouch!!!! Now very p..........s..d off.
PLAN Ambush the new Manager. Ex SAAF with all the quals.
One overtemp on start and a bladestrike by the newby and the writerscramp disappeared quickly. Armed with an enormous feeling of resposibility reported the matter to higher authority. Declaring the newby to be a serious threat to flying and the public. He suffers from a bout of forgetfulness, because he completely forgot to tell them about the overtemp that occurred two weeks prior. We are back to the kiss and tell bit. If the incident was discussed and reported the second incident probably would ever have happened.
End result : SANParks does not recognize international acc/incident investigation guidelines such as MAN,MACHINE,MEDIUM AND MANAGEMENT. Nope, do a criminal investigation and then discipline him, and fire hiss a.......ss. No lessons learnt.
Which brings us back to our intrepid flyer now flying unchecked without any management intervention or proper safety plan. Until they appointed a "Real" Safety Officer. Man with 24 years exp. Fifteen years SAAF, SAPS and other. Been in safety from year one in the SAAF. Principled to the extent that he won a Supreme Court case against the State(SAAF) after his recommendation that the ALO 111 remains grounded, following a number of accidents, were overturned by the generals at the top.
This is the worst possible news to CP. Soon the incidents starts piling up and are duly recorded and forwarded to CAA. Bad yes because it draws attention. Puzzling because "surely that does not qualify as an incident" So what now? Have to get rid of this ouk too. How shall I do that?
So sorry could go on if you want me to. Any takers?
Safety in flying is something you either subsribe to, or you don't.
I don't have to relate it to all the CRM stuff. It all goes about integrity and absolute honesty. It requires the ability to own up to mistakes and through reporting try to prevent repeats or even break the chain leading to eventual accidents.
The CP was appointed in April 2003 as a pilot in Kruger with the explicit responsibility to establish the Safety Management Plan iaw the CARS. He presented a certificate from Court Flight Safety in order to comply with the requirements as was set out in the ad in the S Times.
The man hails from the fairest Cape where his last position was that of CP Base 4. Incidentally an almost meteoric rise from his former position as an Elvis employee.
The two ex SAAF pilots at the time at SANParks gave him as much dual and sticktime as possible to get him settled down in the capture business. Alas that was all he ever did! Reference his delegated responsibility of sorting safety out..........!, "Sorry you want me to write what?' During this period he did manage not to report two incidents(his) of damage to helos. Only owned up until confronted by the other pilots. The other guys left for greener pastures which left him licking his lips for the CP position.
Alas he was overlooked due to lack of fixedwing, instrument and instructional qualifications. Ouch!!!! Now very p..........s..d off.
PLAN Ambush the new Manager. Ex SAAF with all the quals.
One overtemp on start and a bladestrike by the newby and the writerscramp disappeared quickly. Armed with an enormous feeling of resposibility reported the matter to higher authority. Declaring the newby to be a serious threat to flying and the public. He suffers from a bout of forgetfulness, because he completely forgot to tell them about the overtemp that occurred two weeks prior. We are back to the kiss and tell bit. If the incident was discussed and reported the second incident probably would ever have happened.
End result : SANParks does not recognize international acc/incident investigation guidelines such as MAN,MACHINE,MEDIUM AND MANAGEMENT. Nope, do a criminal investigation and then discipline him, and fire hiss a.......ss. No lessons learnt.
Which brings us back to our intrepid flyer now flying unchecked without any management intervention or proper safety plan. Until they appointed a "Real" Safety Officer. Man with 24 years exp. Fifteen years SAAF, SAPS and other. Been in safety from year one in the SAAF. Principled to the extent that he won a Supreme Court case against the State(SAAF) after his recommendation that the ALO 111 remains grounded, following a number of accidents, were overturned by the generals at the top.
This is the worst possible news to CP. Soon the incidents starts piling up and are duly recorded and forwarded to CAA. Bad yes because it draws attention. Puzzling because "surely that does not qualify as an incident" So what now? Have to get rid of this ouk too. How shall I do that?
So sorry could go on if you want me to. Any takers?
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Gents this is an epidemic.
Over the years I have known all the pilot's and chief pilot's - a real fine bunch. The CP pilot's has always been supurb (Mr Otto etc)
Last I heard that Smurf H and Fanie J was the pilot's - so I pressume that is the two ex-SAAF guys out / still out there.
Finer pilot's are hard to get mate so for HdW to shake his stick around is a far cry from professionalism and " safety concerns".
Smurf and Fannie (that sounds better)
- stick it out there - you guys are for real
Cheers Gunss
Over the years I have known all the pilot's and chief pilot's - a real fine bunch. The CP pilot's has always been supurb (Mr Otto etc)
Last I heard that Smurf H and Fanie J was the pilot's - so I pressume that is the two ex-SAAF guys out / still out there.
Finer pilot's are hard to get mate so for HdW to shake his stick around is a far cry from professionalism and " safety concerns".
Smurf and Fannie (that sounds better)
- stick it out there - you guys are for real Cheers Gunss
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Correction Gunns
Guys out FJ & ML (Bokvoet; Sloet)- Jan 2004
Ambushed - RF 2004
Come and gone CA (STAR) 4 months 2004
IN CHARGE HdW & GK!!!
In the crosshairs - MH
Anybody else out there that have suffered the wrath of crossing swords with the man?
Ambushed - RF 2004
Come and gone CA (STAR) 4 months 2004
IN CHARGE HdW & GK!!!
In the crosshairs - MH
Anybody else out there that have suffered the wrath of crossing swords with the man?
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Sanae - Aaah this brings back some memories of my last visit out there. How is our mutual friend doing, hope he has found some greener pastures, away from HdW.
Is Tembe still running the maintenance there. He is one guy that impressed me. The day we had our hot start while out capturing he showed how good he was.
Cheers
Ned
Is Tembe still running the maintenance there. He is one guy that impressed me. The day we had our hot start while out capturing he showed how good he was.
Cheers
Ned
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What will one do without a good old PM ...
Damn sad ! 
RF was fired by a Kangeroo court .. he was in FJ's place after FJ could not take it anymore.
Smurf is next in the firing line. This after he opened a can of worms on the safety aspects.
Smurf is next in the firing line. This after he opened a can of worms on the safety aspects.
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SANAE 1249,
Seems you know a bit more than us about what's going on there. Do Parks Board management realise what is going on there or do they just bury their heads in the sand and hope this blows over. The other side of the coin is obviously that the CP has some serious top cover from somebody at management.
We can't just accept the fact that so much has happened in the last couple of years and nothing got done about it. Piet O has built up quite a credible system there but now everything is falling to pieces.
Sanae give us some more gen.
CR
Seems you know a bit more than us about what's going on there. Do Parks Board management realise what is going on there or do they just bury their heads in the sand and hope this blows over. The other side of the coin is obviously that the CP has some serious top cover from somebody at management.
We can't just accept the fact that so much has happened in the last couple of years and nothing got done about it. Piet O has built up quite a credible system there but now everything is falling to pieces.
Sanae give us some more gen.
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Here's a dare....
I know the guy who was fired by the 'kangaroo court' and therefore I will issue this challenge on his behalf....
Why don't the guys who really care to know the truth about the situation just ask him about it outright? I have and he is not afraid to tell it as it is, his own mistakes included.....
Why not ask the present pilots to own up about their own mistakes? just for a laugh, ha, ha.. (don't expect too much though).
Stay loose..
Why don't the guys who really care to know the truth about the situation just ask him about it outright? I have and he is not afraid to tell it as it is, his own mistakes included.....
Why not ask the present pilots to own up about their own mistakes? just for a laugh, ha, ha.. (don't expect too much though).
Stay loose..
