SAA A340-200 cargo fire warning?
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What on earth has the EK incident got to do with the SAA return? Don didn't raise it because apart from the same airfield, it has jack **** to do with this case.
As for confrontation, that's exactly what you have created here, Pot calling kettle me thinks. The only thing Don ever writes is balanced and qualified (very qualified), if there are ever any barbs in his reply it's because the recipient is a ********.
What do you want, prune with a bunch of wannabes writing or someone who actually knows what he's talking about? Probably whatever makes you feel more comfortable.
What on earth has the EK incident got to do with the SAA return? Don didn't raise it because apart from the same airfield, it has jack **** to do with this case.
As for confrontation, that's exactly what you have created here, Pot calling kettle me thinks. The only thing Don ever writes is balanced and qualified (very qualified), if there are ever any barbs in his reply it's because the recipient is a ********.
What do you want, prune with a bunch of wannabes writing or someone who actually knows what he's talking about? Probably whatever makes you feel more comfortable.
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Any reference to the JoBurg Emirates incident seems to rattle a cage then! If you think you can drag me down to your level of arguement then sorry to disappoint. If the thread makes no sense to you then read it again or ask your good, well qualified mate Don or has he left for Asiana already?
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Hi Guys
Just a short note regarding the "Smoke Warning" in the fwd cargo hold of an SAA 340!
I`ve been operating this aircraft for a good few years now, and what I have noticed is that the "smoke detectors" are extremely sensitive(which is good news)....however they are easily triggered in two instances on a "regular" basis, and that is when "groung crew" FUMIGATE the cargo-hold whilst or after loading, depending on the "destination countriy`s" requirements,....or if we are carrying lots or FRESH FRUIT or suchlike.....and the pallets have NOT been completely SEALED with plastic....then the HUMIDITY from this type of cargo usually triggers the WARNING during the CLIMB.....gets the old ADRENALINE pumping.
Awareness of what you are carrying is obviously important, and in this regard, although "quick thinking" is required, don`t just assume the worst....unless you can back it up with other info like "heat" or "smoke".
Also, as mentioned, maybe an inexpensive camera-system would be a good idea in the cargo-holds!
Happy Flying
Just a short note regarding the "Smoke Warning" in the fwd cargo hold of an SAA 340!
I`ve been operating this aircraft for a good few years now, and what I have noticed is that the "smoke detectors" are extremely sensitive(which is good news)....however they are easily triggered in two instances on a "regular" basis, and that is when "groung crew" FUMIGATE the cargo-hold whilst or after loading, depending on the "destination countriy`s" requirements,....or if we are carrying lots or FRESH FRUIT or suchlike.....and the pallets have NOT been completely SEALED with plastic....then the HUMIDITY from this type of cargo usually triggers the WARNING during the CLIMB.....gets the old ADRENALINE pumping.
Awareness of what you are carrying is obviously important, and in this regard, although "quick thinking" is required, don`t just assume the worst....unless you can back it up with other info like "heat" or "smoke".
Also, as mentioned, maybe an inexpensive camera-system would be a good idea in the cargo-holds!
Happy Flying
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Just noticed King Red’s question – Airbus = EASA (JAA) “rules” – try www.jaa.nl or http://www.easa.eu.int/home/
“Prime Authority” = DGAC (France)
Small point about overweight landings – a special inspection is required before further flight – doubt if this was of paramount importance – but nice they saved some work.
Story – due to freight overload we need to lose some fuel in Switzerland (we “tankered” if we could) – no one wanted it out the tanks – so ATC suggested we off load some freight took off and dumped in circuit – great idea until someone remembered that a DC6 had done the same somewhere in the States – flew though it’s own vapour and blew up.
(we did get the freight there – and shut two down on landing – so we could taxi on the fumes – fun days
)
If you want cameras in your cargo bays http://www.aerospace-technology.com/...r%5Fsafety/ad/ - others do it as well – just got to get someone to pay for them
“Prime Authority” = DGAC (France)
Small point about overweight landings – a special inspection is required before further flight – doubt if this was of paramount importance – but nice they saved some work.
Story – due to freight overload we need to lose some fuel in Switzerland (we “tankered” if we could) – no one wanted it out the tanks – so ATC suggested we off load some freight took off and dumped in circuit – great idea until someone remembered that a DC6 had done the same somewhere in the States – flew though it’s own vapour and blew up.
(we did get the freight there – and shut two down on landing – so we could taxi on the fumes – fun days
)If you want cameras in your cargo bays http://www.aerospace-technology.com/...r%5Fsafety/ad/ - others do it as well – just got to get someone to pay for them
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Also, as mentioned, maybe an inexpensive camera-system would be a good idea in the cargo-holds!
