R22 Down in Stanger
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3 accidents in one day for one company
R22 (ZS-RBT),piloted by a student on a Nav, crashed near Stanger.
Piper Cherokee 140 (ZS-FOR), piloted by a student crash landed onto a beach abeam La Mercy.
Piper Cub, piloted by the fixed wing Chief Instuctor, veered off the runway at Virginia on landing and ended up in the hedge.
3 accidents in one day for Starlight on Friday 17th.
Are the stars falling for Starlight?
Piper Cherokee 140 (ZS-FOR), piloted by a student crash landed onto a beach abeam La Mercy.
Piper Cub, piloted by the fixed wing Chief Instuctor, veered off the runway at Virginia on landing and ended up in the hedge.
3 accidents in one day for Starlight on Friday 17th.
Are the stars falling for Starlight?
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
Originally Posted by herindoors
One of the stars that have fallen from Starlite is Slade no longer CEO.So who is now catching this falling starlite?
Starlite CT is not doing to good either but with the "management" team they have there I am not surprised.
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
ZS-RLC flew into wires on Tuesday 10 Jan 2006. Pilot is one of several SAPS students training at Starlight.Student was on a solo low-flying exercise.Student is fine, with only a few scratches but R22 a wite-off.It was fresh out of a re-biuld. ZS-RBT which crashed in September was also piloted by SAPS student whilst on a solo navigation exercise.Clutch light came on and student eneterd autorotation but did not flare at the end.
Is there a pattern developing here, and if so what?
Both students recieving instruction at Starlight.
Both aircraft maintained by Starlight.
Is there a pattern developing here, and if so what?
Both students recieving instruction at Starlight.
Both aircraft maintained by Starlight.
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
There's a thread on another BB about qualified pilots trying to join the SAPS Air Wing. Is it cheaper to train pilots ab initio while paying them a salary or is this just another slap in the face for a certain sector of SA's population?
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
Originally Posted by glimmerman_alpha
Thats News! Didnt know the man left his company.
Starlite CT is not doing to good either but with the "management" team they have there I am not surprised.
Starlite CT is not doing to good either but with the "management" team they have there I am not surprised.
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
This being your first post (under your new name) doesn't lend much credibility to your demand for "getting facts straight" does it Bravo44?
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Let's hazard a guess, - Bravo44 is one of those arrogant new young positive Saffers who can not distinguish between the trees and the roses. Perhaps he is concerned about how these incidents reflect on his own standard of training, and would like to suggest that the number of succesive incidents are merely coincidence.
Bravo44, wake up and smell the roses, you dont have the privelage or experience to call other people names nor to throw stones or point fingers if you live in a glass house. How many machines did you write off while you were training? When you address the "old manne" you have to type in capitals and show some respect.
If there is anything more you need or want to know about the industry, you have found the right place. If nothing to contribute then just observe - you might learn a lot and get a few surprises in the process.
Bravo44, wake up and smell the roses, you dont have the privelage or experience to call other people names nor to throw stones or point fingers if you live in a glass house. How many machines did you write off while you were training? When you address the "old manne" you have to type in capitals and show some respect.
If there is anything more you need or want to know about the industry, you have found the right place. If nothing to contribute then just observe - you might learn a lot and get a few surprises in the process.
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
Originally Posted by Bravo44
Get your facts straight idiot, what do you know? As a student who has trained at Starlite who's dealt personally with the "management team" there, i can vouch that they are doing exceptionally well at the moment and they are clearly on top of things! So obviously your'e someone that thinks you know it all but all you are is a dumbass!!!!
Bravo 44,
Firstly, my facts are straight. I have dealt with Starlite CT many times and it always turns into a mess. The Durban bunch are much better to deal with.
Secondly, are you sure you are not one of the "management" members
Thirdly, if you wish to talk that way - go find another forum.
Maybe you should go ask the the team at Starlite CT what their plans are for relocating this year....
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
Originally Posted by 4HolerPoler
This being your first post (under your new name) doesn't lend much credibility to your demand for "getting facts straight" does it Bravo44?
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
glimmerman_alpha you are in obvious need of some salient facts. Starlite Aviation is regarded highly both abroad and in South Africa, as anyone with any sense knows. Starlite Aviation in Cape Town excels in its chosen line of business and has a positive and friendly air despite facing many and varied challenges. ALL the staff are known and loved by past and present pilots who have flown there, as have I. Remember, glimmerman or woman, it is a coward who pontificates as holding the key to all knowledge, as you do, while hiding behind a pseudonym. As you read this at your pc you should feel ashamed! Jared.
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4HolerPoler,
I think the mere mention of credibility goes out the window on this whole thread, judging from some of the posts by others. I might question why you choose to pick on the one guy who has something good to say about Starlite when MAUW suggests in his post that a clutch light coming on and a flight into wires may have something to do with Starlight maintenance! Does that become a credible statement because he has posted twice previously? Especially as a moderator, may I suggest that you judge the credibility of posts by their content, and not by the date of registration.
And before I am questioned by GA, no, I have no connection with Starlite, but I would be more interested to see this thread being used to discuss why the accidents happened and how to prevent more in the future rather than twisting it into competition bashing.
I think the mere mention of credibility goes out the window on this whole thread, judging from some of the posts by others. I might question why you choose to pick on the one guy who has something good to say about Starlite when MAUW suggests in his post that a clutch light coming on and a flight into wires may have something to do with Starlight maintenance! Does that become a credible statement because he has posted twice previously? Especially as a moderator, may I suggest that you judge the credibility of posts by their content, and not by the date of registration.
And before I am questioned by GA, no, I have no connection with Starlite, but I would be more interested to see this thread being used to discuss why the accidents happened and how to prevent more in the future rather than twisting it into competition bashing.
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
The OLD MANNE at starlite is Stretch who has 15000 hrs instruction,Starlite Cape town use ABC for maintenance.No known aircraft or students down in CPT.
Maybe Bravo 44 did smell trees and roses while in Cape Town???
Maybe Bravo 44 did smell trees and roses while in Cape Town???
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
Jared,
I have no problem with Starlite. They are doing well in Durban and they are a respected and qualified bunch. But I know whats happening in CT.
"Remember, glimmerman or woman, it is a coward who pontificates as holding the key to all knowledge, as you do, while hiding behind a pseudonym. As you read this at your pc you should feel ashamed! Jared." This is a RUMOUR network, besides, most of the other people "hiding" on this forum know who I am.
Organ Donor,
All I wanted to know is whether the CEO left. No intention of mudslinging.
"I would be more interested to see this thread being used to discuss why the accidents happened and how to prevent more in the future rather than twisting it into competition bashing."
Same here
I have no problem with Starlite. They are doing well in Durban and they are a respected and qualified bunch. But I know whats happening in CT.
"Remember, glimmerman or woman, it is a coward who pontificates as holding the key to all knowledge, as you do, while hiding behind a pseudonym. As you read this at your pc you should feel ashamed! Jared." This is a RUMOUR network, besides, most of the other people "hiding" on this forum know who I am.
Organ Donor,
All I wanted to know is whether the CEO left. No intention of mudslinging.
"I would be more interested to see this thread being used to discuss why the accidents happened and how to prevent more in the future rather than twisting it into competition bashing."
Same here
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Re: R22 Down in Stanger
glimmerman_alpha
Your claim that you do not have a problem with Starlite sounds like so much whining in light of your previous initiation of a thread on this network where you incorrectly assert that a Starlite student crossed a runway without clearance.
Once again, you begin your postings on this thread by imparting a blow to Starlite Aviation by the use of the word “either,” now squeal as you unconvincingly perform a u-turn, that it is not Starlite Aviation in Durban that you have a problem with, again claiming the oracle of insider knowledge, but, Starlite in Cape Town who are “relocating.” You are way out of order with your spineless accusations followed by scurrying behind “glimmerman_alpha,” and “RUMOUR Network,” as your defence. Jared.
Your claim that you do not have a problem with Starlite sounds like so much whining in light of your previous initiation of a thread on this network where you incorrectly assert that a Starlite student crossed a runway without clearance.
Once again, you begin your postings on this thread by imparting a blow to Starlite Aviation by the use of the word “either,” now squeal as you unconvincingly perform a u-turn, that it is not Starlite Aviation in Durban that you have a problem with, again claiming the oracle of insider knowledge, but, Starlite in Cape Town who are “relocating.” You are way out of order with your spineless accusations followed by scurrying behind “glimmerman_alpha,” and “RUMOUR Network,” as your defence. Jared.