Crash at Virginia
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: South Africa
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Crash at Virginia
Six survive Durban plane crash
21/08/2005 15:51
Durban - All six occupants on an aircraft that crashed into a house in Durban North on Sunday morning were taken to the nearby Umhlanga Rocks hospital.
eThekwini municipality's Nelson Pillay said the pilot was in a serious condition after he and a passenger were trapped in the light aircraft which nose-dived into the roof of a house, causing damage to the lounge and dining room.
Police spokesperson Gugu Sabela said the passengers included an Austrian family who were on holiday on the KwaZulu-Natal north coast when they decided to take an aerial tour of the Durban area.
Sabela said the plane was due to land at the nearby Virginia airport when it crashed into the roof of a house in Danville Road.
"Luckily there was no one in the house because the owner decided to take his wife for breakfast.
"To minimise the risk of fire, foam was sprayed over the house."
Sabela said civil aviation officials from Pretoria were on their way to the crash site to investigate the incident.
"The owner of the house is in shock. He and his wife are not talking to anyone right now.
"It's also very busy here with neighbours and emergency workers all over the place," said Sabela.
News24/SAPA
21/08/2005 15:51
Durban - All six occupants on an aircraft that crashed into a house in Durban North on Sunday morning were taken to the nearby Umhlanga Rocks hospital.
eThekwini municipality's Nelson Pillay said the pilot was in a serious condition after he and a passenger were trapped in the light aircraft which nose-dived into the roof of a house, causing damage to the lounge and dining room.
Police spokesperson Gugu Sabela said the passengers included an Austrian family who were on holiday on the KwaZulu-Natal north coast when they decided to take an aerial tour of the Durban area.
Sabela said the plane was due to land at the nearby Virginia airport when it crashed into the roof of a house in Danville Road.
"Luckily there was no one in the house because the owner decided to take his wife for breakfast.
"To minimise the risk of fire, foam was sprayed over the house."
Sabela said civil aviation officials from Pretoria were on their way to the crash site to investigate the incident.
"The owner of the house is in shock. He and his wife are not talking to anyone right now.
"It's also very busy here with neighbours and emergency workers all over the place," said Sabela.
News24/SAPA
JB
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: @ hOME
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Details....
FYI
1. ZS-PCJ an Islander.
2. Danville Road is NOT behind the airport. It was a southly wind blowing in DBN , thus RNY 05 would have been in use. Possibly it lost it left engine and yaw'd to the left. and thus would have found Danville Rd. infront of them.
1. ZS-PCJ an Islander.
2. Danville Road is NOT behind the airport. It was a southly wind blowing in DBN , thus RNY 05 would have been in use. Possibly it lost it left engine and yaw'd to the left. and thus would have found Danville Rd. infront of them.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: South Africa
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FYI ppower
1. If it was a southerly wind in use in DBN, then why "thus RNY 05 would have been in use" ATC101 and aerodynamics101 state otherwise. Not saying though that 05 was not in use. I heard the same thing subsequently.
2. I've lived 2km from Virginia for 27 years. you get rwy 23/05, then the m4, then kentucky drive, then Danville AVE. I did however say ALMOST behind Virginia, the south end of danville AVE is ALMOST directly behind the tower. Sure the upper end of danville lies slightly north of the threshold rwy23.
An islander can hardly find forward speed with two donkeys so a one out with 6 up on departure cant have a happy ending.
I spoke to this aircraft on area a couple of days ago going from pongola to mazangwenya (forgive the spelling) Looks like the clients were having a great safari. Not the kind of end to a holiday you would want. Best wishes and speedy recoveries to all involved.
JB
1. If it was a southerly wind in use in DBN, then why "thus RNY 05 would have been in use" ATC101 and aerodynamics101 state otherwise. Not saying though that 05 was not in use. I heard the same thing subsequently.
2. I've lived 2km from Virginia for 27 years. you get rwy 23/05, then the m4, then kentucky drive, then Danville AVE. I did however say ALMOST behind Virginia, the south end of danville AVE is ALMOST directly behind the tower. Sure the upper end of danville lies slightly north of the threshold rwy23.
An islander can hardly find forward speed with two donkeys so a one out with 6 up on departure cant have a happy ending.
I spoke to this aircraft on area a couple of days ago going from pongola to mazangwenya (forgive the spelling) Looks like the clients were having a great safari. Not the kind of end to a holiday you would want. Best wishes and speedy recoveries to all involved.
JB
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southern Africa
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Come-on Tyrant, an Islander isn't that bad! Yes she's not a speed machine, but for the correct job it's a GREAT aircraft!
Any case, does anyone perhaps know where this particular one originated from? According to my knowledge there where only 2 Islanders in a flying condition left in SA about year ago. I sough another Islander getting resprayed and getting ZS reg. at FALA a couple of months ago, is this one perhaps the one that I sough at FALA?
Wish a speedy recovery to all.
Any case, does anyone perhaps know where this particular one originated from? According to my knowledge there where only 2 Islanders in a flying condition left in SA about year ago. I sough another Islander getting resprayed and getting ZS reg. at FALA a couple of months ago, is this one perhaps the one that I sough at FALA?
Wish a speedy recovery to all.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: South Africa
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OK Ossewa i'm sorry for dissing the winged donkey 
I'm guessing itshighveld based. Funny enough i noticed another one flying around the other day in the northern cape, perhaps the one you're talking about O. It was ZSNAT.
JB
I'm guessing itshighveld based. Funny enough i noticed another one flying around the other day in the northern cape, perhaps the one you're talking about O. It was ZSNAT.
JB
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southern Africa
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well Tyrant you need a donkey to pull an Ossewa or in the Islander's case two donkeys. 
Looks like the Islanders are taking to the SA skies more and more. Atleast jumping out of a Helo into an Islander isn't very difficult; I can almost do a hover landing with the Islander with that slow approach speed of her's!
Take care.
Looks like the Islanders are taking to the SA skies more and more. Atleast jumping out of a Helo into an Islander isn't very difficult; I can almost do a hover landing with the Islander with that slow approach speed of her's!
Take care.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: @ hOME
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ZS-NAT
tyrant , ZANAT is a turbine Islander.... owner last I knew , but a Lady called Natasha , (she also has V5-Nat , and you might have seen her on Discovery flying her Lions around in it (c-206))
Any way word is from the FAVG tower , that they asked the pilot if everything was OK, and hethen reported engine problems... and "he was over the fence before he decided to go around.... "
Later.
Any way word is from the FAVG tower , that they asked the pilot if everything was OK, and hethen reported engine problems... and "he was over the fence before he decided to go around.... "
Later.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Johannesburg
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
____________________________________________________
An islander can hardly find forward speed with two donkeys so a one out with 6 up on departure cant have a happy ending.
____________________________________________________
An ATC trying to say his say on pprune, thought they have their say everyday on FREQ. Please stay behind the mic and leave the flying to us.....
An islander can hardly find forward speed with two donkeys so a one out with 6 up on departure cant have a happy ending.
____________________________________________________
An ATC trying to say his say on pprune, thought they have their say everyday on FREQ. Please stay behind the mic and leave the flying to us.....
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: South Africa
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks for that info PP, didn't know there was a turbine islander in the country. I consider myself now educated
Jangys, sort out your issues mate, merely statements made in jest. I guess you are pilot, i'm sorry, i didn't know i was on holy ground.
Jangys, sort out your issues mate, merely statements made in jest. I guess you are pilot, i'm sorry, i didn't know i was on holy ground.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The frequency jungle
Posts: 975
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm sure that it says somewhere in the rules and regs of PPRUNE that ATCs are not supposed to make comments on aircraft performance and other aviation related topics....
You were kidding right Jangys?
You were kidding right Jangys?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Crash in Durban on Sunday
From:
http://iafrica.com/news/sa/474822.htm
http://iafrica.com/news/sa/474822.htm
CAA to inspect plane crash scene
Mon, 22 Aug 2005
Civil aviation authorities are on Monday investigating Sunday's plane crash in Durban North where a light aircraft carrying five Austrian tourists and a pilot nose-dived into the roof of a house.
The general manager of the nearby Virginia airport, Glen Bryce, said: "Our tower gave the pilot clearance to land but then he did a go-around."
He said the police and airport officials were clearing the scene of the crash.
Civil aviation authorities would remove the plane and take it to the airport where they would inspect it for clues to the cause of the crash.
The pilot, Alistair Freeman, suffered a broken leg, lacerations and bruising. He was in a stable condition in the St Augustine's hospital in Durban.
"He's lucky to be alive," the hospital's client relations department said on Monday.
The Austrian family, who were due to fly to Cape Town on Monday, were waiting to hear when three of their members would be discharged from the Umhlanga hospital.
Their doctor, Niresh Bechan, said the husband, only known as G Huber, was in a lot of pain. "He has been moved from the high care unit to the surgical ward after suffering cuts, bruises and lacerations," said Bechan.
He said the wife and daughter (12), were treated in the casualty ward on Sunday and then discharged, while their son, 10, was in the paediatric ward with lacerations.
Bechan said the wife's sister underwent surgery for a dislocated shoulder on Sunday.
"The family is stable but still in shock" said Bechan.
On Sunday police said the owner of the house, 72-year-old Alwyn Field, a widower, had been at a bowling club when the aircraft crashed into his lounge and dining room.
"His neighbours phoned to tell him what happened but he thought they were joking until he decided to return home to check," said Captain Gugu Sabela.
Sapa
Mon, 22 Aug 2005
Civil aviation authorities are on Monday investigating Sunday's plane crash in Durban North where a light aircraft carrying five Austrian tourists and a pilot nose-dived into the roof of a house.
The general manager of the nearby Virginia airport, Glen Bryce, said: "Our tower gave the pilot clearance to land but then he did a go-around."
He said the police and airport officials were clearing the scene of the crash.
Civil aviation authorities would remove the plane and take it to the airport where they would inspect it for clues to the cause of the crash.
The pilot, Alistair Freeman, suffered a broken leg, lacerations and bruising. He was in a stable condition in the St Augustine's hospital in Durban.
"He's lucky to be alive," the hospital's client relations department said on Monday.
The Austrian family, who were due to fly to Cape Town on Monday, were waiting to hear when three of their members would be discharged from the Umhlanga hospital.
Their doctor, Niresh Bechan, said the husband, only known as G Huber, was in a lot of pain. "He has been moved from the high care unit to the surgical ward after suffering cuts, bruises and lacerations," said Bechan.
He said the wife and daughter (12), were treated in the casualty ward on Sunday and then discharged, while their son, 10, was in the paediatric ward with lacerations.
Bechan said the wife's sister underwent surgery for a dislocated shoulder on Sunday.
"The family is stable but still in shock" said Bechan.
On Sunday police said the owner of the house, 72-year-old Alwyn Field, a widower, had been at a bowling club when the aircraft crashed into his lounge and dining room.
"His neighbours phoned to tell him what happened but he thought they were joking until he decided to return home to check," said Captain Gugu Sabela.
Sapa
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: @ hOME
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Latest
See this was posted under a "new forum".... some one must be a little short sighted. Any how this is then a repeat, but where it belongs.
CAA to inspect plane crash scene
Mon, 22 Aug 2005
Civil aviation authorities are on Monday investigating Sunday's plane crash in Durban North where a light aircraft carrying five Austrian tourists and a pilot nose-dived into the roof of a house.
The general manager of the nearby Virginia airport, Glen Bryce, said: "Our tower gave the pilot clearance to land but then he did a go-around."
He said the police and airport officials were clearing the scene of the crash.
Civil aviation authorities would remove the plane and take it to the airport where they would inspect it for clues to the cause of the crash.
The pilot, Alistair Freeman, suffered a broken leg, lacerations and bruising. He was in a stable condition in the St Augustine's hospital in Durban.
"He's lucky to be alive," the hospital's client relations department said on Monday.
The Austrian family, who were due to fly to Cape Town on Monday, were waiting to hear when three of their members would be discharged from the Umhlanga hospital.
Their doctor, Niresh Bechan, said the husband, only known as G Huber, was in a lot of pain. "He has been moved from the high care unit to the surgical ward after suffering cuts, bruises and lacerations," said Bechan.
He said the wife and daughter (12), were treated in the casualty ward on Sunday and then discharged, while their son, 10, was in the paediatric ward with lacerations.
Bechan said the wife's sister underwent surgery for a dislocated shoulder on Sunday.
"The family is stable but still in shock" said Bechan.
On Sunday police said the owner of the house, 72-year-old Alwyn Field, a widower, had been at a bowling club when the aircraft crashed into his lounge and dining room.
"His neighbours phoned to tell him what happened but he thought they were joking until he decided to return home to check," said Captain Gugu Sabela.
CAA to inspect plane crash scene
Mon, 22 Aug 2005
Civil aviation authorities are on Monday investigating Sunday's plane crash in Durban North where a light aircraft carrying five Austrian tourists and a pilot nose-dived into the roof of a house.
The general manager of the nearby Virginia airport, Glen Bryce, said: "Our tower gave the pilot clearance to land but then he did a go-around."
He said the police and airport officials were clearing the scene of the crash.
Civil aviation authorities would remove the plane and take it to the airport where they would inspect it for clues to the cause of the crash.
The pilot, Alistair Freeman, suffered a broken leg, lacerations and bruising. He was in a stable condition in the St Augustine's hospital in Durban.
"He's lucky to be alive," the hospital's client relations department said on Monday.
The Austrian family, who were due to fly to Cape Town on Monday, were waiting to hear when three of their members would be discharged from the Umhlanga hospital.
Their doctor, Niresh Bechan, said the husband, only known as G Huber, was in a lot of pain. "He has been moved from the high care unit to the surgical ward after suffering cuts, bruises and lacerations," said Bechan.
He said the wife and daughter (12), were treated in the casualty ward on Sunday and then discharged, while their son, 10, was in the paediatric ward with lacerations.
Bechan said the wife's sister underwent surgery for a dislocated shoulder on Sunday.
"The family is stable but still in shock" said Bechan.
On Sunday police said the owner of the house, 72-year-old Alwyn Field, a widower, had been at a bowling club when the aircraft crashed into his lounge and dining room.
"His neighbours phoned to tell him what happened but he thought they were joking until he decided to return home to check," said Captain Gugu Sabela.
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Holding somewhere.....
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jangys,thought your comments uncalled for, Tyrant has his opinion. Can we just leave the forum as to what its designed for and not a slanging match? Man so unnecessary!!!!!!!!
Anway hope all recover soon!!
Anway hope all recover soon!!
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Africa
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Now now guys, both are entitled to their opinions. Lets not turn this into a match between pilots and ATC's as we all know the pilots will come out on top (FL330 to be exact) sounded like tyrant's comment was made in jest, so lets leave it be.
Anyway this islander is frequently around plet, not sure exactly where it's based though.
sounded like tyrant's comment was made in jest, so lets leave it be.Anyway this islander is frequently around plet, not sure exactly where it's based though.
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Africa
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just had a look at the wreck! Lucky people! The left engine is unfeathered and shows no sign of rotational impact, whereas the right prop does. As can be seen from the pictures, the flaps were full down. Not a very good configuration for a go-around!
I also hear that the aircraft was at the fence when the go around was initiated. Why? The point being that the ATC must have got a really close view of an Islander staggering past!!
I also hear that the aircraft was at the fence when the go around was initiated. Why? The point being that the ATC must have got a really close view of an Islander staggering past!!
GunsssR4ever
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Out there somewhere ...
Posts: 3,816
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Crashed Plane Causes Havoc
A six-seater aircraft that crashed into a pensioner's house at the weekend caused more havoc as it was being transported to Virginia Airport.
The plane, a Britten-Norman Islander, became temporarily stuck under the M4 bridge to Virginia Airport in Hinton Road, Durban, on Tuesday. It was being towed to the airport so that civil aviation authorities could continue their investigations as to why the plane crashed into pensioner Alwyn Field's home in Danville Avenue.
Metro police officers were at the scene to escort the tow truck and to assist with traffic.
He told his unexpected visitors: 'I'm sorry I wasn't home when you called.'
The passengers - the Huber family from western Austria - and the pilot Alistair Freeman, 38, were lucky to survive.
Daryl Mann, chief engineer of the recovery operation, said all the necessary tests will be carried out to try and find out the cause of the crash.
Asked about the cause of the accident, a Civil Aviation Authority investigator said that it would take about five to eight months to complete the investigation.
Freeman had to be cut from the wreck and it took rescuers 90 minutes to free him. He was admitted to St Augustine's Hospital with a broken leg. He had been ferrying the family from Sibaya Lake near Sodwana to Virginia Airport. They were seconds away from landing when the plane went down.
Field, 72, was at a nearby bowling club at the time of the crash.
Gerald Huber is in Umhlanga Hospital with a dislocated leg, and cuts and abrasions to his face. The family is due to fly home on Friday, but hospital staff say it is unlikely as Huber would still be in hospital.
Huber's wife, Monika, and his 12-year-old daughter Felicitas, are wearing neck braces and Monika has a bandage on her eyes.
Monika's sister, Alexandre, and 10-year-old son, Adam, were also treated at hospital.
Field - now being nicknamed "Air-Field" by his neighbours - told his unexpected visitors: "I'm sorry I wasn't home when you called."
Huber's wife, the only one in the family who can speak English, apologised for hitting his home.
As fire officers pumped out fuel from the plane on Monday, an independent insurance expert called in by Field's insurers assessed the damage.
Field's daughter, Beverley van der Westhuizen, said her dad was "very upset as his case of whisky has gone".
The plane, a Britten-Norman Islander, became temporarily stuck under the M4 bridge to Virginia Airport in Hinton Road, Durban, on Tuesday. It was being towed to the airport so that civil aviation authorities could continue their investigations as to why the plane crashed into pensioner Alwyn Field's home in Danville Avenue.
Metro police officers were at the scene to escort the tow truck and to assist with traffic.
He told his unexpected visitors: 'I'm sorry I wasn't home when you called.'
The passengers - the Huber family from western Austria - and the pilot Alistair Freeman, 38, were lucky to survive.
Daryl Mann, chief engineer of the recovery operation, said all the necessary tests will be carried out to try and find out the cause of the crash.
Asked about the cause of the accident, a Civil Aviation Authority investigator said that it would take about five to eight months to complete the investigation.
Freeman had to be cut from the wreck and it took rescuers 90 minutes to free him. He was admitted to St Augustine's Hospital with a broken leg. He had been ferrying the family from Sibaya Lake near Sodwana to Virginia Airport. They were seconds away from landing when the plane went down.
Field, 72, was at a nearby bowling club at the time of the crash.
Gerald Huber is in Umhlanga Hospital with a dislocated leg, and cuts and abrasions to his face. The family is due to fly home on Friday, but hospital staff say it is unlikely as Huber would still be in hospital.
Huber's wife, Monika, and his 12-year-old daughter Felicitas, are wearing neck braces and Monika has a bandage on her eyes.
Monika's sister, Alexandre, and 10-year-old son, Adam, were also treated at hospital.
Field - now being nicknamed "Air-Field" by his neighbours - told his unexpected visitors: "I'm sorry I wasn't home when you called."
Huber's wife, the only one in the family who can speak English, apologised for hitting his home.
As fire officers pumped out fuel from the plane on Monday, an independent insurance expert called in by Field's insurers assessed the damage.
Field's daughter, Beverley van der Westhuizen, said her dad was "very upset as his case of whisky has gone".
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: South Africa
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Spoke to my folks last night, apparently due to a small calulation error (or lack of) the aircraft in the process of being transported back the airport got stuck under the M4 bridge due to height issues. oooops
oooops
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South Africa
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It would be nice to hear the answers to some questions....like why the overshoot...from all accounts he was on short short and if he had the power to get to where he got to why not just land. From the photos it looks like it stalled in and probably from low....which may account for the fact that they all (sort of) walked away from it.