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Old 24th Mar 2005, 08:43
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Strange noises from helicopter

Im pretty new to the aviation industry, so i will shoot away and ask my question.

Yesterday while down in the V&A Waterfront watching the helicopters take off and land, a Bell Jetranger belonging to Sport Helicopters made two loud banging noises which i have not heard before. The Helicopter is a Bell Jetranger, Reg ZS-HMB.

After speaking to one of the pilots he said that the turbine was barking and was caused by the compressor...

Can anyone explain this to me. What is barking..another oldish pilot said something about stalling????

What is the cause and is it safe to fly when it does this???

Many thanks
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Old 24th Mar 2005, 08:46
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As long as it wasn't Berts tockity-tockity-boom-chugga-lugga noise it should be OK.
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Old 24th Mar 2005, 08:54
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Hey you know Cape Town okes.....they bark at anything!!!

It can happen if the points are not set quite right and timing is out a bit leading to the coil sending a false signal to the hollow input shaft which then makes a loud growling noise.

This is normal for anything with pistons.

OH????? sorry....a 206.....ooookkk.....If its not a piston engine and it does it more than once... send it to maintenance. Check the compressor out for wear and tear....and...don't expect me to fly it there over "the Mountain" either.
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Captain Pheremone, thanks for the reply.

If the helicopter has a problem why is it still getting used to fly tourists around the coast

I assume that it must be alright then.
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Anyone else getting the feeling the bait is being twitched?


Journos...
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Old 24th Mar 2005, 14:02
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Another new Troll on Board. Welcome to the forum. Must be that now we are taking the heat off the Huey situation and dropping it on someones B206.
Anyway the term is Compressor Stall, look it up.
If the folks here had their names revealed Im sure they would all know each other. Seems they drink Beer together with their true names and then go to PPrune to stab each other anonymously.
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Old 24th Mar 2005, 14:05
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Helicopters are really a bunch of parts flying in relatively close formation; all rotating around a different axis. Things work well until one of the parts breaks formation.


Sorry Bert...!!

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fish

Last time I heard a bang from a chopper it was in the "bush" days. Nobody stood around listening, they were all running!!!!.
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Old 24th Mar 2005, 17:22
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Maybe ol Captn Wolff was up to some new tricks and barking orders at his ever faithful crew.......as long as it was'nt going Rrrrrrrrrrrr but Rrrrrruuufffffffff..
Naw seriously a bit of old fashioned cleaning reqd...bleed valve sticking again.
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Old 24th Mar 2005, 18:57
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Hey Bert.

I reckon your right. We all know each other somewhere from Vegas to Welkom.

Beware of trolls!!! they are only just worse than the whiners on other heli forums (JH) for eg.

You just woken up?????
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Old 25th Mar 2005, 03:55
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Bert going chuggalugga....never happen! He is much more refined than that nowadays....he actually uses a glass...spills most but always with his pinky pointing at the horizion!
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Barking Ali 250

Hello, before you all ask yes I am slightly darker than pale, and yes I have my COM working towards an ATPL. Now it strikes me funny to hear a Helicopter Barking. There was a time when only us Darker types were barked at. Seems the New South Africa has arrived in the Lilly White Cape.
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Old 26th Mar 2005, 23:07
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Ha Ha
Grommet, nobody here cares whether your darker than pale. Most folks in here hate everyone equally........

As to: " Seems the New South Africa has arrived in the Lilly White Cape."
That is nothing new, Crime and Corruption have been heading south for some time. Its still quite livable in the Cape area. Fences are not as high as GP. It gives the world a chance to import all SA Professionals. A lot of the SA Medical folks are already established in the U.S.,U.K. Aussie land etc. I can walk into almost any U.S. Hospital and find folks from SA. Give it a few years and then the saying will be last one leaving turn out the lights. You wanted it, you got it and now you can stuff it up like the rest of Africa.
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Old 27th Mar 2005, 08:55
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Grommet,

I'd have prefered to do this by PM or email but you've chosen not to accept either forms of communication so here goes:

You've been pretty active on a bunch of threads in the past few days & every one of your posts has a common denominator - you have to remind us that you're of African descent - bud, no one give a fat rats arse what color you are - join in these forums as a fellow avaition professional & drop the race card thing. This goes as a warning to other forum users as well - can the black/white/darker/lighter crap please.

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Old 27th Mar 2005, 09:20
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SRT ( a feeling that bait is being twitched)

No, Sir, this was not fabrication or speculation. What was heard was heard by the experienced and the NOT so experienced.

So to put it short, pretty new to the industry (+- 5.5 years) still a rookie compaired to the likes of Mr Sousa and the rest. So im by all means no Journo....

The A/c and operation that i mentioned are always very quick to throw all the others under the buss wether true or not.

The so called "bait" in my case is indeed fact and not just a story....Now i will throw out the bait.....rumour has it (from the guys that fly/flown them) that both "HIS" machines are temp limited to likes of around 80% ..at sea level....MMMmmm now this is bad

SRT, nothing personal, just a little bait in the pond.

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Old 27th Mar 2005, 09:51
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Whatever it was, you had enough of us snapping at the lure...
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Old 27th Mar 2005, 10:09
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Nothing is more tempting than a piece of bait fresh from the V&A Waterfront....

...o yes, the trebble hooks are very sharp
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Old 27th Mar 2005, 18:52
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Oui Grommet.

Stop worrying about the colour or the barking.

Me,colour,well Goffel says it all.

I used to work for a certain chopper jock,(he is/was a real Huey fan),when we wuz in the spray industry.

Now he used to give me a bucket of water and a cloth (some soap as well),and look at the A/c.
Now that look was "the look".

Whilst the aerie was being washed,he left his dog to mind over me,(you know these Broederbond okes,they think we steal anything) ,and everytime I stopped washing,the dog barked.

V?k Gert and could that dog bark.


When the aerie was washed,I was given the same "look" and if you followed the eye,there was his bakkie.

Same story.

But Grommet,today I have a good few thousand hours,lots of bush experience,know how to wash an aerie and a bakkie.

Today I still get the "look" and have to wash his car,and the dog is still left there to watch over me.

But the only time the dog barks is when I drive his white Porsche 996 (with the hound sitting next to me),down past Camps Bay beach.
(Yes,Bert,I get to drive it,as these Broederbond okes now believe the only proper way to dry the car is blow dry it).

Oh yes,it also has a rattle
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If it's making that "Zika-boing, zika-boing" sound, you know the grommet on the swonnicle defibrillator has fallen off...
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Old 28th Mar 2005, 06:21
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Noisy helicopter

Listen you ous,

The term "noisy helicopter" is a waste of one of the words. The age-old reason a chopper flies is that it makes so much noise the earth rejects it.

The chopper is a contraption which converts fuel into noise.

Did nobody hear this before ?

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