Rossair : Turbine DC3 ZS-OJI
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Rossair : Turbine DC3 ZS-OJI
Rumour has it that ZS-OJI pranged earlier this week, somewhere in Sudan. One main gear dug into soft ground on landing, swinging aircraft round, wing impacted, one engine detached.
Anyone got more recent news?
Anyone got more recent news?
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Not quite true, the incident happened on take-off at a runway in Sudan that is clearly not designed to accommodate DC3 Turbines. Left wheel sunk. Recovery crew is at present in Sudan replacing one engine and two props, expect to fly her out later today. (Saturday). A combination of factors led to the incident, all due respect to the crew certainly not their fault.
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the incident happened on take-off at a runway in Sudan that is clearly not designed to accommodate DC3 Turbines. Left wheel sunk. Recovery crew is at present in Sudan replacing one engine and two props, expect to fly her out later today. (Saturday). A combination of factors led to the incident, all due respect to the crew certainly not their fault.
all OLS strips have a type limit, wet/dry landable/unlandable.
or maybe it was the runway SLOPE,or the SLOPE in the airplane
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was it again the usual Whisky Lima "wet and landable" airstrip report or the usual OLS Air-Ops "yeah you can do it with the turbo dak or we cancel the contract and ask one of the Ruskov Anotonov to take it over"...
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Anybody know who the pilots were? I hope they all okay!!
Please PM me any info.
Anyhow hats off to the boys and girls up there doing a difficult job in an even more difficult aircraft!
Please PM me any info.
Anyhow hats off to the boys and girls up there doing a difficult job in an even more difficult aircraft!
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Probably.
One has to remember this "It is better to loose a contract with a serviceable A/C, than to loose a contract, because of a bent A/C".
The more experience a pilot has, the more he/she will realise the truth in this.
In Africa one should always carry a box of matches just for those eventualities, presuming the A/C is insured, of course.
One has to remember this "It is better to loose a contract with a serviceable A/C, than to loose a contract, because of a bent A/C".
The more experience a pilot has, the more he/she will realise the truth in this.
In Africa one should always carry a box of matches just for those eventualities, presuming the A/C is insured, of course.
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rossair turbine dc3 ZS-OJI
"Wet but landable"
Have'nt heard that phrase for a while. Hope the crew is ok. Having been there many times, "there but for the grace.....". I assume the crew were fully qualified and only trying to get the job done and get home safely to a few Tuskers. ( and maybe a nurse or two) Only kidding!!
Not only Rossair, but all contract companies operating in South Sudan have to rely on their crews to make on the spot assesments as to runway suitability and with the questionable info from OLS, this is not always easy. Fly safely out there.
Have'nt heard that phrase for a while. Hope the crew is ok. Having been there many times, "there but for the grace.....". I assume the crew were fully qualified and only trying to get the job done and get home safely to a few Tuskers. ( and maybe a nurse or two) Only kidding!!
Not only Rossair, but all contract companies operating in South Sudan have to rely on their crews to make on the spot assesments as to runway suitability and with the questionable info from OLS, this is not always easy. Fly safely out there.
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Any members of the Loki Snot Surfing Club out there? Those are the one's who've landed on wet black cotton and done a 360 deg or in some cases even had to take power to stop because of travelling backward in the slime. Most Twotter and Dak drivers who've done a Loki tour in the wet should qualify.
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It seems that OLS did in fact relay incorrect information to the crew of OJI. So in my humble opinion the crew are not culpable but rather OLS who once again "gets the info right every time!" NOT. OJI is now back in Nairobi - flew out the Sudan Saturday.
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bushjeppy and gbender both hit the nail on the head. But its only the depth of the sh1t that varies. Certain loco carriers have the same policy.different operation same mindset.
500 metres in a bush palne or 1500 in a boeing whats the difference exept the girls are prettier.
Anyone out there know how long MADING is . I couldnt get into AKUEM as it was too wet so i didnt get to (M)AJAKLIET either
I usually like it wet in AKUEM but once you're in its hard to get out.
I did like the mornings when MADING was long and serviceable.
Personnlly I think the whole system is AKON.
Forgotten the rest , and do miss winding up the slopes (safair) who missed the nuance of double entendre airstrips.
got to go my NEKAP is hurting
500 metres in a bush palne or 1500 in a boeing whats the difference exept the girls are prettier.
Anyone out there know how long MADING is . I couldnt get into AKUEM as it was too wet so i didnt get to (M)AJAKLIET either
I usually like it wet in AKUEM but once you're in its hard to get out.
I did like the mornings when MADING was long and serviceable.
Personnlly I think the whole system is AKON.
Forgotten the rest , and do miss winding up the slopes (safair) who missed the nuance of double entendre airstrips.
got to go my NEKAP is hurting
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Hmm. No doubt another bent AC tale to be discussed at length around the bar at Tango Mike on a warm evening with cold Tusker. Hear that they have a new pool.
Dicksynormous (Fester? Bundles?) you are almost quoting the dulcet tones of Mr. Meredith.
Dicksynormous (Fester? Bundles?) you are almost quoting the dulcet tones of Mr. Meredith.
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Grizzly Bear, where did you hear such junk! The Captain is leaving Rossair of his own accord, nothing personal dude! Most pilots use contract companies as stepping stones in their flying careers to go onto other things. That's it, no hidden agenda from either the Captain or the company - end of story.
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Grizly Bare-When posting info on this forum,please research the facts as most of us do not appreciate DUFF GEN!!
The mere fact that an accident is called that is because it is just that- an accident. I'm sure you don't get into your aerie and say today I'm going to prang it!!!
Please remember in future, that the wheel turns in this small world of aviation, and you might be the next subject being "asked" to leave.
Just a thought -use it,dont use it.
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The mere fact that an accident is called that is because it is just that- an accident. I'm sure you don't get into your aerie and say today I'm going to prang it!!!
Please remember in future, that the wheel turns in this small world of aviation, and you might be the next subject being "asked" to leave.
Just a thought -use it,dont use it.
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