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Radar Pete, Haven't heard from you for a while. (Ex Tongwe)Good to see you again. A change from the old aeropages days when you were the only voice in the wildeness on our old site, giving the atc view.
So what is all the fuss about here now? Read the lot and as usual we are all chasing tails. Get tit i mean it off your chests boys and girls.
The other day there was this young, sounded young and Irish lad at FALA. It started getting busy with some broad in a lear doing 220knot circuits and flying rings around some 172's in the pattern. I was finished with a detail out in the Vaal and on the way back called, asked re entry, told to continue and I'll call you back. Eventually over LA I managed to get a word in edge ways as to what was next. By then Warrick had taken over and was breaking all existing land speed records for the most words spoken in a minute. I was told to vacate the controlled and hang around the south limit untill called back.
Ten minutes later , I sneeked a quick word in and said Hi and when asked my distance I said 10 miles out, ahhh but the zone is 12 so you are in my space and hanging around the ILS, so Fox Oscar out to 12 miles and I will call you back. 20 minutes later and the request for an air tanker to do an inflight refuel, I was cleared in and told to speed it up. Reduce height to 5000 and then bat in the lear came around again, so a little orbit and back on the center line. Ever needed a piss so bad that the kidneys ache and the eyes water, standing up in the seat, up against the peddles, simulating a flying pervert with both sticks in hand. The Piper Pawnee is a great plane. I approached , landed and was asked by ground to contact the tower after landing. Oh boy big trouble now.
I was reminded that one does not enter controlled airspace without permision, even if you are a ex crop sprayer with as many procedural skills as the captain of the titanic. I apologised and even the excuse of being told to continue, I was out of order. I didn't mind, by then I had passed water, so NOTHING mattered.
Many thanks ATC in Sa. You guys and girls do a wonderful job.
WDS
So what is all the fuss about here now? Read the lot and as usual we are all chasing tails. Get tit i mean it off your chests boys and girls.
The other day there was this young, sounded young and Irish lad at FALA. It started getting busy with some broad in a lear doing 220knot circuits and flying rings around some 172's in the pattern. I was finished with a detail out in the Vaal and on the way back called, asked re entry, told to continue and I'll call you back. Eventually over LA I managed to get a word in edge ways as to what was next. By then Warrick had taken over and was breaking all existing land speed records for the most words spoken in a minute. I was told to vacate the controlled and hang around the south limit untill called back.
Ten minutes later , I sneeked a quick word in and said Hi and when asked my distance I said 10 miles out, ahhh but the zone is 12 so you are in my space and hanging around the ILS, so Fox Oscar out to 12 miles and I will call you back. 20 minutes later and the request for an air tanker to do an inflight refuel, I was cleared in and told to speed it up. Reduce height to 5000 and then bat in the lear came around again, so a little orbit and back on the center line. Ever needed a piss so bad that the kidneys ache and the eyes water, standing up in the seat, up against the peddles, simulating a flying pervert with both sticks in hand. The Piper Pawnee is a great plane. I approached , landed and was asked by ground to contact the tower after landing. Oh boy big trouble now.
I was reminded that one does not enter controlled airspace without permision, even if you are a ex crop sprayer with as many procedural skills as the captain of the titanic. I apologised and even the excuse of being told to continue, I was out of order. I didn't mind, by then I had passed water, so NOTHING mattered.
Many thanks ATC in Sa. You guys and girls do a wonderful job.
WDS
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Radar Pete - not the same Goaf's. Just wanted to set the record straight - I can't count 100 atc's (guess 70 or so) that are ex SA in the UAE since 1991 and can count at least 12 that left since then from the UAE to SA, HKG, ZRH, Dublin and 2 went to fly - Unfortunately JNB only got 2 (Hope my count is about right, not counting 3 who were back in SA for a few years before returning to the UAE). I think it is more like 15% that have left the UAE?
You didn't come across as an ex jhb app/area type - sorry, I am pro life in the UAE, as well as the work at JNB -life is like that and you can't be at both places at once for the best of both.
ZRH - Hello there long time no see as well as the other psuedo german from Bloemies now in EDDF. Agreed not CPT!!
You didn't come across as an ex jhb app/area type - sorry, I am pro life in the UAE, as well as the work at JNB -life is like that and you can't be at both places at once for the best of both.
ZRH - Hello there long time no see as well as the other psuedo german from Bloemies now in EDDF. Agreed not CPT!!
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Greetings Banner Boy. Prefered the Tongwe callsign. Hope all is well.
Gofor
I think you are closer to the mark, I did wing it a bit at trying to guess and after some thought I think the mark is closer to 80, but I might be counting pre 1991 departures as well.
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Gofor
I think you are closer to the mark, I did wing it a bit at trying to guess and after some thought I think the mark is closer to 80, but I might be counting pre 1991 departures as well.
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Radar Pete
No Sweat - Pre '91 could have only been ex-zim/rhodie types who did touch and goes at JNB and left around '87, 3 SA's on foreign passports up to '91, the real influx was only '94 onwards which took 1/5 of the SA workforce to the UAE by '97!! That is working on these figures - +-38 in the UAE in '97 and SA's total controller contingent in '94 was +-147, JNB in '94 then sufferred further with 4 off to NZ (one of these back to SA and 2 to the ME/HKG)!! Money only makes you happy for so long, working conditions/lifestyle mean more - hence many controllers are in the UAE coming up 10 years now. The money in SA is also not bad and lifestyle is great - depending on how you asses it - hence many SA types defend staying in SA - rightly so as we all make our own choices.
Have fun in the sun.
CHEERS
PS: Anybody know if the Danes in JNB are ex AUH/DXB??
No Sweat - Pre '91 could have only been ex-zim/rhodie types who did touch and goes at JNB and left around '87, 3 SA's on foreign passports up to '91, the real influx was only '94 onwards which took 1/5 of the SA workforce to the UAE by '97!! That is working on these figures - +-38 in the UAE in '97 and SA's total controller contingent in '94 was +-147, JNB in '94 then sufferred further with 4 off to NZ (one of these back to SA and 2 to the ME/HKG)!! Money only makes you happy for so long, working conditions/lifestyle mean more - hence many controllers are in the UAE coming up 10 years now. The money in SA is also not bad and lifestyle is great - depending on how you asses it - hence many SA types defend staying in SA - rightly so as we all make our own choices.
Have fun in the sun.
CHEERS
PS: Anybody know if the Danes in JNB are ex AUH/DXB??
