Russian Wagner forces Il-76 crash in Mali
A lot of dead apparently.
According to Arabic media, up to 140 Mali and Wagner soldiers died. |
Video of overrun
https://www.nu.nl/303072/video/vlieg...t-in-mali.html
Touchdown… rolling along centreline … don’t see much deceleration… runs out of asphalt …. Straight over sandy soil… tips over de edge 19 seconds after touchdown… 7 sec later fireball… can’t see if it’s GAGO or GABS … difference is about 2,200 ft rwy length … |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7CmJIeW...g&name=900x900
https://x.com/tvtoront/status/1707046942725828836?s=20 the aftermath (and it looks like a truck on its side near the aircraft but it may have nothing to do with the accident) |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11510044)
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It was in GAO...there are also some pics taken from that A400 cockpit waiting at the holding point in some Twitter mil groups.
The IL76 might be a previous Sapsan and not related to Wagner Group. It was now fully painted in Mali Air Force, with Mali AF insignias in both Fuselage an Tail. Reg TZ-98T. https://twitter.com/Gerjon_/status/1706620761442496995 twitter.com/Gerjon_/status/1706620761442496995 |
Originally Posted by On_The_Top_Bunk
(Post 11510178)
Looks like landed long and messed up what should have been a go around
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Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11510192)
It is strange - after touchdown there is no apparent effort to slow down to stop or to accelerate back up to GA speeds.
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Acc some Insider info there was one Russian instructor pilot and couple of local Malian AF pilots receiving instruction to fly the old 76 on their behalf...it sounds in my humble opinion the typical mess.. "You did, I did, I will, you will..." And the tarmac finished... May they RIP
BTW...curious the fact we can see the TR shells being deployed but at the same time no spoilers being deployed... |
One of the useless things in aviation - runway behind you
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Originally Posted by JanetFlight
(Post 11510221)
Acc some Insider info there was one Russian instructor pilot and couple of local Malian AF pilots receiving instruction to fly the old 76 on their behalf...it sounds in my humble opinion the typical mess.. "You did, I did, I will, you will..." And the tarmac finished... May they RIP
BTW...curious the fact we can see the TR shells being deployed but at the same time no spoilers being deployed... |
Originally Posted by RickNRoll
(Post 11511109)
They were training with a plane full of human cargo?
That said not only in Africa, remember the A320 in Habsheim ? |
Looking at Google Maps and the vid, I think the aircraft was well over half way down the runway before touch down. Go arounds will result in a firing squad?
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 11511244)
Standard in Africa. why waste a good revenue. possibility ?
That said not only in Africa, remember the A320 in Habsheim ? |
Originally Posted by bobbytables
(Post 11511357)
The A320 in Habsheim wasn’t a training flight.
It was one of the first 3 A320 AF received and this one was 2 days old.and it was its first flight with pax, The notion of " not wasting an empty flight" is the same as here in Gao. |
I don't think passengers were banned from demo flights in France (Europe?) prior to Habsheim, recommendation in the report that they must be and presumably were.
I believe non-crew were prohibited at UK displays following the Biggin Invader accident in 1980 which resulted in the deaths of six passengers. Concorde flypasts were tacked onto "round the bay" passenger flights but I don't recall seeing one that was below at least 500' and probably higher and they were simply flypasts joined up by big turn arounds. I do recall seeing flypasts with Spitfires and the Red Arrows, no idea if passengers involved but the formations were pretty loose. Ray Hanna flying one Spit, possibly Stephen Grey in the other. |
Can that aircraft have been carrying that damaged vehicle in it's cargo hold? What would happen if it broke loose on landing?
I'm curious why the vehicle is there. |
Here we go again! Complete thread drift with the A320 accident which bares no resemblance to this one in any way whatsoever!
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Looking at the Google Earth images of Gao airport, they touched down on 06L abeam of a service road a little past the taxiway leading to the main apron, giving them ~1000m of paved runway remaining (out of 2500). It took them 12 seconds to use up the runway, implying an average (!) speed of 300 kph. There is a further 380m flat overrun area, which took another 7 seconds before going down the ravine, equating to 195kph. By the look of it, there was hardly any deceleration or lateral deviation, wreckage is right on the centerline.
Il-76 nominal required landing distance is 930-1000m. This landing should have been aborted well before touchdown, but even so, all other things heading north they should have been able to stop at least in the overrun zone. |
Originally Posted by munnst
(Post 11511443)
Can that aircraft have been carrying that damaged vehicle in it's cargo hold? What would happen if it broke loose on landing?
I'm curious why the vehicle is there. |
Originally Posted by munnst
(Post 11511443)
Can that aircraft have been carrying that damaged vehicle in it's cargo hold? What would happen if it broke loose on landing?
I'm curious why the vehicle is there. |
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