Ural A 320 emergency landing II
Another miracle by Ural Airlines, Novosibirsk, russia.
Video: https://t.me/Tsaplienko/39165 |
And with the gear down , whow ! ..but nice landing ...Could have been a glider pilot .
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Preliminary, they got hydrolic system failure, and according FR 24 diverted from Omsk to Novosibirsk, but looks like run out of fuel on the way there.
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Russian Emergency Landing
It seems Ural Airlines in Russia just put an A320 into a field. No fatalities or injuries were reported. Is this linked to the ongoing war and no spares? https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/20...ing-of-sept-12
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It seems that Ural has an addiction with landing in fields lol
Originally Posted by Revnetwork
(Post 11501321)
Is this linked to the ongoing war and no spares?
Hats off to the pilots! |
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6b38be8b41.png
FR24 playback......... Interesting to say the least. |
It looks like they were trying to divert to Novosibirsk but ran out of fuel...
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Looks like a good forced landing. Can't help wondering if the Green system failed.....
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Respect to the pilots for landing an A320 in a field without killing everyone on board. That's quite an achievement.
As for Russian aviation: there'll be more incidents like this one in future. It's what happens when you repair stolen aircraft with fake or recycled parts. |
Well they have plenty of fuel, but no spare parts. Sounds like Iran, who have somewhat managed to keep itself together over the years, although with a with a diminished fleet.
Aircraft looks a bit ratty, certainly a few patch up jobs in certain areas when zooming in on a few photos. Well now they have a whole A320 they can pull apart and re use. |
But no respect to the pilots for Hapag-Lloyding into what was a fortunately large, firm and dry field. Looks like manual gear and limited spoilers so yes a green failure followed by a fuel consumption miscalculation.
Never mind, plenty of Airbus spare parts to be trucked out of the farm. |
Seems like sanctions bite though I meet again and again some Putin fans who believe that Russia is doing well and even winning the war.
Here is some footage shortly after evacuation: |
Sanctions are wonderful, for our competitors. other potential Airbus and Boeing customers will remember this. China's aviation industry is on the rise. Give it 10 or 20 years and we can say we shot ourselves in the foot.
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Sanctions work as could be seen during the cold war.
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That's a very large field! Huge respect to the pilots, and to the aircrafts strength.
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On Avherald, it is said that the green hydraulic system is suspected to have failed.
This has the following main consequences: - Landing gear operation is severely impaired. If down, it cannot be retracted any more, carrying a fuel consumption penalty of 180% in case of closed landing gear doors. If it was retracted at the time of failure, it can be extended by gravity only, the landing gear doors will stay open after this. This will lead to a fuel burn much more than the 180% malus mentioned, the exact value is not published by Airbus. - Main brake is unusable, alternate braking with antiskid remains available from yellow hydraulic. - Nose wheel steering may or may not be usable depending on aircraft version: on the newer 320 series, it is driven by the yellow hydraulic, on the older ones by the green system. - #1 reverser is unusable and will stay stowed. - 2 of 5 spoilers per wing are unusable. - Slats and flaps may be slow but operable The other flight controls are unaffected in principle - they may lose one of their power sources but fall back on their respective alternate. The FMS however calculates its fuel estimates based on the original performance model and does not know the impaired performance status of the aircraft. Manual calculation of endurance, range etc. is required - in case of open landing gear doors and therefore in absence of Airbus published data, fuel flow and ground speed is an appropriate starting point. If so, there may well be some similarities to the well known Hapag-Lloyd 3378 accident in this case. |
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Regardless of anything else that's great work from the pilots
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I am not an airbus pilot but why put it in a field if is a hyd failure? Excessive fuel consumption on diversion leading to very quiet approach?
Mog |
Originally Posted by Mogwi
(Post 11501455)
I am not an airbus pilot but why put it in a field if is a hyd failure? Excessive fuel consumption on diversion leading to very quiet approach?
Mog |
@VHOED191006, that is only partially correct.
The effect You describe occurs when You have lost both green and yellow systems and are down to the brake accumulator. In that case, You are indeed down to about 7 brake applications before pressure runs out. However, if the yellow hydraulic system is pressurised, alternate braking with antiskid is available with an unlimited number of applications. Ref. OM-B DSC 32-30-10 Braking modes Until now, there is nothing indicating anything beyond a plain Green sys failure on the flight in question as far as I am aware. What was the weather like at Omsk at the time of approach and is there a word on the runway condition maybe? |
Originally Posted by Tu.114
(Post 11501465)
@VHOED191006, that is only partially correct.
The effect You describe occurs when You have lost both green and yellow systems and are down to the brake accumulator. In that case, You are indeed down to about 7 brake applications before pressure runs out. However, if the yellow hydraulic system is pressurised, alternate braking with antiskid is available with an unlimited number of applications. Ref. OM-B DSC 32-30-10 Braking modes |
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There are three independent hydraulic systems on the A320 and even if for some reason the two primary ones fail, the aircraft is still controllable with the back up one though you’d have a lot of procedures to run through and would want to be landing at a decent airport.
A single failure wouldn’t be a major drama at all, you’d lose a few systems and have some ECAM work but a normal landing would be expected. Something obviously went seriously wrong to result in an off airport landing. |
Originally Posted by DroneDog
(Post 11501397)
Sanctions are wonderful, for our competitors. other potential Airbus and Boeing customers will remember this. China's aviation industry is on the rise. Give it 10 or 20 years and we can say we shot ourselves in the foot.
Sometimes you have to pick sides. The world will know why. |
They pretty quickly started dismantling the A/C: https://x.com/andrewperpetua/status/...4cJ3snHPSDNP6w
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Originally Posted by ettore
(Post 11501512)
They pretty quickly started dismantling the A/C: https://x.com/andrewperpetua/status/...4cJ3snHPSDNP6w
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This is not exactly the method to generate valuable spare parts?
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Sorry
Originally Posted by Luray
(Post 11501532)
Its an old video from similar accident. Few years ago they landed on a corn field due to eng failure.
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Video 321, today's accident 320.
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Any crew that runs a jet out of gas dealing with an emergency should be thrown in jail as incompetent. Landing with no gear at the original destination would have been better than making a forced landing in a field. Had the transit been over water the outcome would have been totally different. Even a brand new FO could tell you that the FMC fuel predictions are nonsense with the gear down.
Was it really a good idea to gravity drop the gear before deciding that going elsewhere to a longer runway was a better course of action? Leaving 2500m of runway behind you in favour of 3600m at Novosibirsk and then running out of gas only half way there is supremely incompetent. Edit: Can't spell! |
Originally Posted by VHOED191006
(Post 11501462)
We are given to believe that it's the green system failed. That controls the normal braking system, leaving the aircraft on the alternate system (controlled by the yellow system). That's only limited to 1,000psi and around 7 applications of braking. That requires you to have a longer runway to land on. The gear is also controlled by the green system. Appears that it was stuck down with the loss of hydraulics. Looks like they really had no other choice!
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Ural needs to ask Spindelberger to design a trailer for A320 gilders:p
The field looks long enough for a takeoff, but it looks like the cowls are assisting the MLG. Braking action seems to have been pretty good, even with limited hydraulics. How long were the ruts? |
A diversion with gear down that leads to running out of fuel is UTTER INCOMPETENCY!
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I'm going out on a limb. Mistakenly dropped the gear. Diverted. Ran out of fuel. Not the first to have the gear down and run dry, nor the last. Good landing mind!
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At least they minimised wear on the brakes the CP will be happy….
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying
(Post 11501640)
Ural needs to ask Spindelberger to design a trailer for A320 gilders:p
The field looks long enough for a takeoff, but it looks like the cowls are assisting the MLG. Braking action seems to have been pretty good, even with limited hydraulics. How long were the ruts? Reminds me a bit of the 737-300 that landed on the dike outside New Orleans after losing both engines in a severe thunderstorm (which they did successfully fly out and returned to service). |
Lets get to the important stuff! How was their RT?
CreepyJoe |
No R/T audio yet!
Well, the PPruners are early on the kudos without R/T audio or transcript to judge their ICAO or host state radio comms, yet.
Pan? Mayday Fuel? Na Zdorovie! |
This will come into CRM studies presentations in a year or two. They've lost green hyd, decided to divert from normal weather 2500m runway with FFRS cat 8 or cat 9 service, hugely underestimated the fuel burn on low level gear out flight and ended up how they ended up. At least this time everyone is alive and well. Aircraft is not supported by Airbus, so assessment and repairs are questionable.
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