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gravedigger666 9th May 2023 21:05


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11431945)
Udet had a flight display routine where he picked up handkerchiefs with his wing tip. Another one was to dismount (and reinstall) the entire main landing gear in flight or throw out "the" stick.

I've never heard of the guy before today, fascinating to learn of his exploits, but what a tragic end.

kiwi grey 10th May 2023 00:06


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11432210)
Wasn't there a recent claim that a Vulcan DID touch the ground too?(and left a mark in the surface)

At the opening of Wellington (NZ) Airport on 25 October 1959? Sure did:

As {Paul Davidson} watched in gale-force northerlies beside the runway, he saw a giant delta-wing Vulcan bomber almost crash in front of him. The bomber touched down short of the runway, rupturing part of its landing gear, wing attachments and engine fuel lines and narrowly avoiding clipping a wing tip that would have sent it cartwheeling towards the crowd. ... The pilot managed to abort the landing and fly the damaged plane to Ohakea where it made an emergency landing.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/116...ed-60-years-on

spornrad 10th May 2023 08:55


Originally Posted by gravedigger666 (Post 11432567)
I've never heard of the guy before today, fascinating to learn of his exploits, but what a tragic end.

Great book and film about Udet: The Devil's General (book by Carl Zuckmayer)

DuncanDoenitz 10th May 2023 16:10

A teenaged Eric Brown had an life-changing encounter with Ernst Udet during the Munich Olympics in 1936. Unfazed by by a ride in Udet's Jungmann (which included finals flown inverted), Udet advised Winkle "You will make a fine fighter pilot; learn to fly, and learn to speak German".

So he did, and he did.

Expatrick 10th May 2023 17:49


Originally Posted by spornrad (Post 11432713)
Great book and film about Udet: The Devil's General (book by Carl Zuckmayer)

That's interesting, because

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4009483827.jpg


I guess titles are not copyright?

Ah, now I get it (from Wikipedia)


Des Teufels General is a 1946 play written by German author and playwright Carl Zuckmayer, translated as The Devil's General. The title character of the play, General Harras, is based on the ace Ernst Udet. The play is based upon his struggles during the war, simultaneously working under and openly being against the Nazi Party. Despite the serious scenario of it, a comical and satirical tone is often used throughout the play.


Bergerie1 10th May 2023 18:01

QUESTION:- Does hubris have any place in serious aviation? Answers on a post card please.

JanetFlight 11th May 2023 03:04

Lovely memories here from the Kiwi Near 3 Disasters ;)

Maninthebar 11th May 2023 07:21

What a great piece of film.

Especially liked the quiet irony of the early remark that "we military pilots admired the skills of the Fokker pilot, but not his judgement", followed by.....

MENELAUS 11th May 2023 09:57

What an excellent piece of film. Reminds me of the Gannet Air day. Seafire ditches. Pilot bales out towards the Ailsa Craig and rescued by duty sar. Followed by a BA classic en route to the NAT Tracks which diverts in for a full blown evacuation following a cargo fire warning. The punters got their moneys worth !!

FlightlessParrot 13th May 2023 05:09

In the 1980s, Radio New Zealand used to do travel news. On several occasions I heard the report that Wellington Airport was marginal. I'm not a professional, but as a (nervous) passenger, that is not what I'd like to hear.

Fargo Boyle 13th May 2023 10:35


Originally Posted by MENELAUS (Post 11433138)
What an excellent piece of film. Reminds me of the Gannet Air day. Seafire ditches. Pilot bales out towards the Ailsa Craig and rescued by duty sar. Followed by a BA classic en route to the NAT Tracks which diverts in for a full blown evacuation following a cargo fire warning. The punters got their moneys worth !!

The Navy aircraft was Sea Fury FB11, TF956 with a knackered u/c leg. I didn't know about the 747 on the same day - aviation is rarely boring!

KRviator 15th May 2023 01:30

As a fellow, but somewhat more cautious RV driver, I was curious as to what Vans would say about repairs and so on. They've come out and said "he's on his own" in regards to parts, and they consider the aircraft a write-off, as they won't be approving a repair or inspection scheme.

A shame, as it looked like quite a nice -7 before the seat-stick-interface failed...


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