P-51 versus Malibu M600
Whoops! Houston Executive Airport...
The P-51D Mustang "Glamorous Glenn III" ran into the aft section of N282TX, a Piper PA-46-600TP M600, as it was holding short for departure for Runway 36 at Taxiway "A". The M600 sustained extensive damage (both the horizontal and vertical stabilizers were destroyed, and the aft fuselage skin was damaged). The P-51D sustained minor damage to the propeller. There were no injuries. |
The M600 sustained extensive damage (both the horizontal and vertical stabilizers were destroyed, and the aft fuselage skin was damaged). The P-51D sustained minor damage to the propeller |
The P-51D sustained minor damage to the propeller |
Originally Posted by India Four Two
(Post 11357729)
Presumably the engine will have to be overhauled, due to shock-loading
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It's going to take more than duct tape:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4c17aa7d5b.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....13ca97a0a0.jpg "Nothing to do with me Officer! Those dents in the spinner are old." https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f7fd0d0b50.jpg This must have been taken soon after the accident - the wheel-well doors have not yet fully opened. |
Must`ve been the Sun in his eyes.....
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Must`ve been the Sun in his eyes..... |
Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 11357379)
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Weaving is the usual method of avoiding whoopsies on the taxiway.
Bob Hoover hit a truck with his Mustang I believe ("who left that there?" rings a bell) and the sadly late Carolyn Grace de-boomed a parked Jet Ranger with her Spit at Duxford. Doggy doos happens to even the best... |
Go-Pro in the nose cowl feeding to a Phone screen?
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Originally Posted by blue up
(Post 11358095)
Go-Pro in the nose cowl feeding to a Phone screen?
Most Taildraggers and long-nosed warbirds in particular have taxi visibility issues, and we have way to compensate. Slow and slight regular S turns are the norm , The problem comes when someone pops up in front of you unexpected, or queuing in a lane when the one in front brake and stop in without saying anything .. |
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 11358126)
:) turning at 2500 Rpm ?
Most Taildraggers and long-nosed warbirds in particular have taxi visibility issues, and we have way to compensate. Slow and slight regular S turns are the norm , The problem comes when someone pops up in front of you unexpected, or queuing in a lane when the one in front brake and stop in without saying anything .. But the taildragger should be keeping a proper lookout. Depending on the design of the taildragger with poor forward visibility, this may mean not stopping so that you are pointed straight ahead but stopping at an angle to the taxiway centerline(allowing you to see forward along the taxiway). Or if stopped and pointed straight ahead, once ready to move forward, adding power and applying one brake to turn the aircraft a certain number of degrees on the spot so that you can see ahead along the taxiway and then applying the other brake to turn back on the spot(or close to it) toward the taxiway heading to taxi forward. Or possibly having a marshaller in certain circumstances like Oshkosh or in certain circumstances potentially asking on the radio for some sort of visual verification assistance. |
Most Taildraggers and long-nosed warbirds in particular have taxi visibility issues, and we have way to compensate. The problem comes when someone pops up in front of you unexpected, or queuing in a lane when the one in front brake and stop in without saying anything .. It is simply the responsibility of a taxiing pilot to assure that the path is clear. If someone could pop up or stop in front of you, you should be aware of their presence before they could pose a collision hazard. Obviously, being the "pop up / sudden stop" pilot is not great airport etiquette, and courtesy would suggest the need to make one's self known, or give way to the moving airplane if practical, but it is a pilot's responsibility to taxi safely! |
No injuries; good. I think we can chalk that up as a "Probable".
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Punkalouver and Pilot DAR " I was in no way suggesting you should call on the R/T evertime you stop, of course not , would be meaningless.also . I badly phrased this. should have better said " unexpectedly" instead. Anyway we do not know exactly what happenned , could be a brake failure from the P51 for all we know. That said if I was fying a P51 , (whishes, !...) I would taxi it extremely carefully and very ,very slowly , but again maybe that is also what the guy did here too. **** just happens sometimes. .
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Shouldn't tail draggers (especially long-nosed birds like this) be required to have a person walking in front with a red flag? |
I recall a WWII film of several P-47s taxiing out, each with the crew chief lying on the wing.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying
(Post 11358337)
I recall a WWII film of several P-47s taxiing out, each with the crew chief lying on the wing.
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I recall a WWII film of several P-47s taxiing out, each with the crew chief lying on the wing https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c15c7ee9c4.png |
Originally Posted by megan
(Post 11358526)
Standard practice if circumstances demanded. Taxiing a tail dragger you should be weaving if the dimensions of the taxi way permit so as to clear the area ahead.
The taxi very slowly option is not particularly realistic when and significant taxi distance is involved. |
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