Small plane crashes into empty building outside Milan, all 8 onboard die
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Aircraft registered in Romania.
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2015-built Pilatus PC-12.
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PC-12 crash, Milan, Italy 3rd Oct 2021
Reports of a Pilatus PC-12 with 8 on-board crashing soon after take off from Linate airport.
https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/03/...n-milan-suburb |
The empty building under construction that the PC-12 hit is directly across the road from a 6-storey car park that serves the terminus of the Milan metro line M3.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fc40811713.jpg Could have been a whole lot worse. Milano, precipita un ultraleggero: incendio a San Donato (mediaset.it) |
Sad news.
Ironically, the crash site was in via 8 ottobre 2001, named to commemorate the previous Linate crash in which one of my wife's fellow Unilever employees died, along with 117 others.
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One of Romanias richest men according to this report.
https://www.italy24news.com/local/208989.html |
nevillestyke
That would have been sadly ironic had it been true, but it isn't (though it's not far away). The building hit is in Via Giuseppe ("Peppino") Impastato, opposite the Emilia MSCP (visible on Google Maps/GE though not yet on Streetview). Incidentally the ADS-B data suggests that the PC-12 augured in from 5000'. |
Italian media spoke about an engine failure based on testimonies by people on the ground. I think that it's the usual emotional reaction to the shock of watching an air crash: "ball of fire", "trail of fire" etc. Looking at the data available on Flightradar24, it's clear that the engine was running (positive rate of climb, even if very unstable) and that the pilot didn't try to land again in LIML (he passed the threshold of runway 36 without descending). My guess: crew incapacitation; or incorrect air data due to failure of static and/or dynamic ports.
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Originally Posted by Mike Flynn
(Post 11120798)
One of Romanias richest men according to this report.
https://www.italy24news.com/local/208989.html |
Originally Posted by Gianni57
(Post 11121117)
Italian media spoke about an engine failure based on testimonies by people on the ground. I think that it's the usual emotional reaction to the shock of watching an air crash: "ball of fire", "trail of fire" etc.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11121346)
There are media reports citing CCTV images showing that the aircraft was on fire prior to impact, so not just eyewitness reports.
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Originally Posted by AN2 Driver
(Post 11121545)
Because if they can't be produced, they most probably don't exist.
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Originally Posted by AN2 Driver
(Post 11121545)
If they are quoting then they should either publish the images or shut up. Because if they can't be produced, they most probably don't exist.
And one that, I'm sure you'll agree, could equally be applied to the quote about videos (as yet unseen) showing the aircraft wasn't on fire ... |
Interesting, I see it was recently fitted with an MT 7-bladed prop. New one on me, quietens the type down apparently. Having M-ARTY amongst others regularly zip over my house at 1500' or so, I wouldn't have said it was particularly noisy.
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Engine failures in SET’s are rare unless it’s been abused.
Owner flown, over temped on startup and took off anyway? I have no PC-12 time, is it FADEC like everything else these days? Auto start? |
Doesn't look on fire from what I see but that's a vertical dive.
Aereo caduto a Milano, il video dell'incidente: ecco gli ultimi due secondi del Pilatus in volo- Corriere.it Hope video is visible to non subscribers. |
The PC12 is high tech with FADEC and all the bells and whistles. This accident looks like loss of control inflight - probably the typical owner-pilot case?
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Originally Posted by starling60
(Post 11121753)
Doesn't look on fire from what I see but that's a vertical dive.
Aereo caduto a Milano, il video dell'incidente: ecco gli ultimi due secondi del Pilatus in volo- Corriere.it Hope video is visible to non subscribers. Appears to support the ADS-B data that indicates a 10,000+ fpm ROD. |
From what I read the people onboard were all family and friends, no mention of a second pilot, also papers state that there were no distress calls or reports of failure.
Am no pilot myself but could it be as simple as for instance pilot incapacitated, stroke or something along the line? Happens daily on the roads everywhere. Just a supposition. |
Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
(Post 11121754)
The PC12 is high tech with FADEC and all the bells and whistles. This accident looks like loss of control inflight - probably the typical owner-pilot case?
No FADEC at that time yet. But I completely agree - the aircraft is coming down like a rocket - definitely out of control. |
Reminds me rather of that Malibu accident in Switzerland a couple of years ago...
Blimey, nearly seven... https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/173433 |
Unlike early model PC-12s, the accident aircraft was fitted with an LDR (Lightweight Data Recorder), likely this one.
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High performance turbine singles seem to be the new upmarket 'Doctor Killers'. People with plenty of money but too little training and not enough hours killing themselves and their families.
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Might be same cause as HB-FPZ crash a few years ago.
https://www.bea.aero/docspa/2012/hb-...z120824.en.pdf |
Out of interest, how much ice can an airframe accumulate in 4 minutes of flight ?
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
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Out of interest, how much ice can an airframe accumulate in 4 minutes of flight ?
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Any news on this accident ? any updated report or analysis ?
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An ANSV report less than 6 months since the occurrence? Don't hold your breath.
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