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Interested Passenger 12th Dec 2020 13:47

DA40 crash Cranfield
 
Only local chatter on Facebook but reports a DA40 has gone off the runway and the tail has snapped off. Cranfield notam doesn't mention anything.

Feathers McGraw 12th Dec 2020 21:11

https://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=117411

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Black Planet 13th Dec 2020 07:03

Diamond Star accident
 
Can confirm accident occurred Saturday around 9am at the end of 22 and off to starboard. Diamond tail section was off and upside down and one wing appeared detached.

Pure speculation on cause but maybe engine out and strong crosswinds flipped. Alternatively may have veered off and nose wheel dug into mud causing her to flip. Air amublance
was there a long time before leaving.

Broadlands 13th Dec 2020 11:21

While I’m sure reporting on here is with the best of intentions, please leave the speculation as this is a public forum.
This will be an unpleasant experience for all those involved. The media will also look for anything which will not then be accurately reported, so I think out of consideration and respect for others it may be appropriate to refrain from commenting at least until due process has had a chance to run its course.

Newforest2 14th Dec 2020 06:45

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=245596

More details.

Pilot DAR 14th Dec 2020 15:00


Fatalities: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 1 Other fatalities: 0
Is not clear to me: Should I understand that there was one occupant fatality? Or, one occupant, but no fatalities? But no one on the ground was injured...

3wheels 14th Dec 2020 15:10


Originally Posted by Pilot DAR (Post 10947081)
Is not clear to me: Should I understand that there was one occupant fatality? Or, one occupant, but no fatalities? But no one on the ground was injured...

That’s the way they display injuries/fatalities....One on board and no fatalities.

The headlines don’t go into injuries but from the text one (presumably the pilot) taken to hospital.

olster 4th Jan 2021 15:27

Anyone know the outcome of this? Very hush hush. Hope the pilot involved is ok.

jan99 4th Jan 2021 21:11

Yes. I fly DA40 and am very interested in the ways that can go wrong.

olster 18th Jan 2021 12:44

Any news on this? Hope the pilot is ok.

Bearhunter 13th Feb 2021 10:10


Originally Posted by olster (Post 10970432)
Any news on this? Hope the pilot is ok.

This one is still with the AAIB.
Understand pilot is ok.

olster 14th Feb 2021 13:46

Thanks Bearhunter, glad all ok. Would be interested to find out what happened. DA40 quite a resilient and safe aircraft but I guess any can bite. Chuck Yeager famously said about the piper cub that it could ‘just’ kill you..!

Bearhunter 25th Feb 2021 11:21


Originally Posted by olster (Post 10990511)
Thanks Bearhunter, glad all ok. Would be interested to find out what happened. DA40 quite a resilient and safe aircraft but I guess any can bite. Chuck Yeager famously said about the piper cub that it could ‘just’ kill you..!

Hi Olster. Oddly there appears to be no record as yet of any AAIB investigation. I would like to know the cause also as I occasionally fly the type.

22/04 25th Feb 2021 12:23

May be handled as a correspondence report if no injuries but should appear in AAIIB monthly reports eventually.

olster 29th Apr 2021 19:44

Still a resounding silence on this. Any news?

DaveReidUK 29th Apr 2021 21:14

Not the subject of either a current field or record-only (correspondence) investigation by the AAIB.

Herr Reisen 23rd May 2021 16:09

The AAIB have this one although after nearly 6 months nothing has even got as far as any written acknowledgement or any official report.
Sources close to L3 have however shed some light on this accident, clearly hearsay, although the company was allowed to conduct its
own investigation.
The aircraft had on board at the time of the accident just one pilot who was a company instructor. Fortunately he survived the accident.
It seems that the aircraft stalled and appeared to spin in immediately after rotation. The aircraft lost a wing, its tail and came to rest facing the direction it had come from.
It has been reported that there was a cargo of TKS fluid dispersed around the cabin, unsecured, in 6 x 20-25 litre drums.
Weight, weight shift and CG issues come to mind.

Fostex 23rd May 2021 21:08

TKS comes in 20 litre can/cartons - 6 of those would be 120 litres or about 130kg. With a 70-80kg pilot alone in the front and 130kg in the back seats then the CG would be borderline, that is assuming no other odds and ends in the baggage area.

If one applied a 'normal' control input on rotation in that configuration, not having given the aft CG much thought, then one can understand why the events that (allegedly) occurred, unfolded.

DaveJ75 24th May 2021 19:25


Originally Posted by Herr Reisen (Post 11049820)
The AAIB have this one although after nearly 6 months nothing has even got as far as any written acknowledgement or any official report

Good grief man, 6 months? Is there a war on? It's the civil service you're talking about here! Golf balls don't hit themselves you know, they'll need another 12 months at least...

Herr Reisen 10th Jul 2021 11:46


Originally Posted by DaveJ75 (Post 11050670)
Good grief man, 6 months? Is there a war on? It's the civil service you're talking about here! Golf balls don't hit themselves you know, they'll need another 12 months at least...

7 months down the road and this is now an official investigation! I guess the war is over.


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