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Old 12th Dec 2020, 13:47
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DA40 crash Cranfield

Only local chatter on Facebook but reports a DA40 has gone off the runway and the tail has snapped off. Cranfield notam doesn't mention anything.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 21:11
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Old 13th Dec 2020, 07:03
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Diamond Star accident

Can confirm accident occurred Saturday around 9am at the end of 22 and off to starboard. Diamond tail section was off and upside down and one wing appeared detached.

Pure speculation on cause but maybe engine out and strong crosswinds flipped. Alternatively may have veered off and nose wheel dug into mud causing her to flip. Air amublance
was there a long time before leaving.
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Old 13th Dec 2020, 11:21
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While Iím sure reporting on here is with the best of intentions, please leave the speculation as this is a public forum.
This will be an unpleasant experience for all those involved. The media will also look for anything which will not then be accurately reported, so I think out of consideration and respect for others it may be appropriate to refrain from commenting at least until due process has had a chance to run its course.
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 06:45
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 15:00
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Fatalities: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 1 Other fatalities: 0
Is not clear to me: Should I understand that there was one occupant fatality? Or, one occupant, but no fatalities? But no one on the ground was injured...
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 15:10
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR View Post
Is not clear to me: Should I understand that there was one occupant fatality? Or, one occupant, but no fatalities? But no one on the ground was injured...
Thatís the way they display injuries/fatalities....One on board and no fatalities.

The headlines donít go into injuries but from the text one (presumably the pilot) taken to hospital.
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Old 4th Jan 2021, 15:27
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Anyone know the outcome of this? Very hush hush. Hope the pilot involved is ok.
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Old 4th Jan 2021, 21:11
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Yes. I fly DA40 and am very interested in the ways that can go wrong.
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Any news on this? Hope the pilot is ok.
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Old 13th Feb 2021, 10:10
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Originally Posted by olster View Post
Any news on this? Hope the pilot is ok.
This one is still with the AAIB.
Understand pilot is ok.
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Old 14th Feb 2021, 13:46
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Thanks Bearhunter, glad all ok. Would be interested to find out what happened. DA40 quite a resilient and safe aircraft but I guess any can bite. Chuck Yeager famously said about the piper cub that it could ‘just’ kill you..!
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Originally Posted by olster View Post
Thanks Bearhunter, glad all ok. Would be interested to find out what happened. DA40 quite a resilient and safe aircraft but I guess any can bite. Chuck Yeager famously said about the piper cub that it could Ďjustí kill you..!
Hi Olster. Oddly there appears to be no record as yet of any AAIB investigation. I would like to know the cause also as I occasionally fly the type.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 12:23
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May be handled as a correspondence report if no injuries but should appear in AAIIB monthly reports eventually.
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Old 29th Apr 2021, 19:44
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Still a resounding silence on this. Any news?
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Old 29th Apr 2021, 21:14
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Not the subject of either a current field or record-only (correspondence) investigation by the AAIB.
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Old 23rd May 2021, 16:09
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The AAIB have this one although after nearly 6 months nothing has even got as far as any written acknowledgement or any official report.
Sources close to L3 have however shed some light on this accident, clearly hearsay, although the company was allowed to conduct its
own investigation.
The aircraft had on board at the time of the accident just one pilot who was a company instructor. Fortunately he survived the accident.
It seems that the aircraft stalled and appeared to spin in immediately after rotation. The aircraft lost a wing, its tail and came to rest facing the direction it had come from.
It has been reported that there was a cargo of TKS fluid dispersed around the cabin, unsecured, in 6 x 20-25 litre drums.
Weight, weight shift and CG issues come to mind.
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Old 23rd May 2021, 21:08
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TKS comes in 20 litre can/cartons - 6 of those would be 120 litres or about 130kg. With a 70-80kg pilot alone in the front and 130kg in the back seats then the CG would be borderline, that is assuming no other odds and ends in the baggage area.

If one applied a 'normal' control input on rotation in that configuration, not having given the aft CG much thought, then one can understand why the events that (allegedly) occurred, unfolded.
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Old 24th May 2021, 19:25
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Originally Posted by Herr Reisen View Post
The AAIB have this one although after nearly 6 months nothing has even got as far as any written acknowledgement or any official report
Good grief man, 6 months? Is there a war on? It's the civil service you're talking about here! Golf balls don't hit themselves you know, they'll need another 12 months at least...
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Old 10th Jul 2021, 11:46
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Good grief man, 6 months? Is there a war on? It's the civil service you're talking about here! Golf balls don't hit themselves you know, they'll need another 12 months at least...
7 months down the road and this is now an official investigation! I guess the war is over.
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