DA40 crash Cranfield
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Last edited by Feathers McGraw; 12th Dec 2020 at 22:21. Reason: Add info
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Diamond Star accident
Can confirm accident occurred Saturday around 9am at the end of 22 and off to starboard. Diamond tail section was off and upside down and one wing appeared detached.
Pure speculation on cause but maybe engine out and strong crosswinds flipped. Alternatively may have veered off and nose wheel dug into mud causing her to flip. Air amublance
was there a long time before leaving.
Pure speculation on cause but maybe engine out and strong crosswinds flipped. Alternatively may have veered off and nose wheel dug into mud causing her to flip. Air amublance
was there a long time before leaving.
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While I’m sure reporting on here is with the best of intentions, please leave the speculation as this is a public forum.
This will be an unpleasant experience for all those involved. The media will also look for anything which will not then be accurately reported, so I think out of consideration and respect for others it may be appropriate to refrain from commenting at least until due process has had a chance to run its course.
This will be an unpleasant experience for all those involved. The media will also look for anything which will not then be accurately reported, so I think out of consideration and respect for others it may be appropriate to refrain from commenting at least until due process has had a chance to run its course.
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
Is not clear to me: Should I understand that there was one occupant fatality? Or, one occupant, but no fatalities? But no one on the ground was injured...
The headlines don’t go into injuries but from the text one (presumably the pilot) taken to hospital.
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Thanks Bearhunter, glad all ok. Would be interested to find out what happened. DA40 quite a resilient and safe aircraft but I guess any can bite. Chuck Yeager famously said about the piper cub that it could ‘just’ kill you..!
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Originally Posted by olster
Thanks Bearhunter, glad all ok. Would be interested to find out what happened. DA40 quite a resilient and safe aircraft but I guess any can bite. Chuck Yeager famously said about the piper cub that it could ‘just’ kill you..!
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The AAIB have this one although after nearly 6 months nothing has even got as far as any written acknowledgement or any official report.
Sources close to L3 have however shed some light on this accident, clearly hearsay, although the company was allowed to conduct its
own investigation.
The aircraft had on board at the time of the accident just one pilot who was a company instructor. Fortunately he survived the accident.
It seems that the aircraft stalled and appeared to spin in immediately after rotation. The aircraft lost a wing, its tail and came to rest facing the direction it had come from.
It has been reported that there was a cargo of TKS fluid dispersed around the cabin, unsecured, in 6 x 20-25 litre drums.
Weight, weight shift and CG issues come to mind.
Sources close to L3 have however shed some light on this accident, clearly hearsay, although the company was allowed to conduct its
own investigation.
The aircraft had on board at the time of the accident just one pilot who was a company instructor. Fortunately he survived the accident.
It seems that the aircraft stalled and appeared to spin in immediately after rotation. The aircraft lost a wing, its tail and came to rest facing the direction it had come from.
It has been reported that there was a cargo of TKS fluid dispersed around the cabin, unsecured, in 6 x 20-25 litre drums.
Weight, weight shift and CG issues come to mind.
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TKS comes in 20 litre can/cartons - 6 of those would be 120 litres or about 130kg. With a 70-80kg pilot alone in the front and 130kg in the back seats then the CG would be borderline, that is assuming no other odds and ends in the baggage area.
If one applied a 'normal' control input on rotation in that configuration, not having given the aft CG much thought, then one can understand why the events that (allegedly) occurred, unfolded.
If one applied a 'normal' control input on rotation in that configuration, not having given the aft CG much thought, then one can understand why the events that (allegedly) occurred, unfolded.
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Originally Posted by Herr Reisen
The AAIB have this one although after nearly 6 months nothing has even got as far as any written acknowledgement or any official report
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Originally Posted by DaveJ75
Good grief man, 6 months? Is there a war on? It's the civil service you're talking about here! Golf balls don't hit themselves you know, they'll need another 12 months at least...
