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gileraguy 31st Mar 2019 21:35

One of Russia's richest women killedin private aircraft in Germany
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-a4105626.html

One of Russia's richest women, S7 Group co-owner Natalia Fileva, has died in a small plane crash in Germany, the Russian airline operator said.

Ms Fileva, 55, was on board a single-engine, six-seat Epic LT aircraft that crashed in a field as it approached the small airport at Egelsbach, a town in south-western Germany, the airline's press service said in an email.

German police said there appeared to be three people on board the plane, including the pilot of the flight, which originated in France.

They said the two passengers were believed to be Russian citizens but that positive identification of the occupants would require further investigation.

German aviation authorities were probing the cause of the crash. Egelsbach is about 10 kilometres south of Frankfurt.

DaveReidUK 31st Mar 2019 21:53

Appears to be MSN 19, a 2008-built Epic exported to Russia about 5 years ago.

gileraguy 31st Mar 2019 22:01

Local radio stating it was a single engined jet, however the Epic LT and Epic were turboprops, according to Wikipedia. The LT was a kt built A/C and the Epic was a factory built bird, but details of actual production are limited. The Epic Victory was apparently an experimental kit built single engined jet, however details on production are also limited.

WingNut60 31st Mar 2019 22:42

S7? As in S7 Airlines?

gileraguy 31st Mar 2019 22:55


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10435284)
S7? As in S7 Airlines?

I believe so.

DaveReidUK 31st Mar 2019 22:56


Originally Posted by gileraguy (Post 10435267)
Local radio stating it was a single engined jet, however the Epic LT and Epic were turboprops, according to Wikipedia.

It was indeed a turboprop:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f5f36d2103.jpg


The LT was a kit built A/C and the Epic was a factory built bird, but details of actual production are limited.
The accident aircraft was a kit-built Epic LT.

gileraguy 31st Mar 2019 22:57

thank you Dave.

chopper2004 1st Apr 2019 00:41

Epic LT crash in Germany kills businesswoman partner owner of S7 Airlines
 

The other owner of S7 Airlines was killed along with others when their Epic LT corporate jet crashed in Germany.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Germany.html

RIP to all.

ATB

PastTense 1st Apr 2019 00:46

Note:

A police car racing to the scene of the crash collided with an other vehicle, killing the two people inside and seriously injuring three police officers, the DPA news agency reported.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...an-plane-crash

Water pilot 1st Apr 2019 02:32


[color=left=#121212]The air crash involved a six-seater aircraft travelling from France to the town of Egelsbach south of Frankfurt. The plane went down in a field at around 1330 GMT, police said. The Epic-Lt, a single-engined jet designed for private flights, disappeared from radars at 1322 GMT, according to data from a flight tracker Flighradar24.[/color]
Um, ...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...3VW%29_-_1.jpg

GMEDX 1st Apr 2019 08:26

Kit Plane
 
A real shame to be an airline owner and very rich but killed in a single pilot kit plane. Reminds be of the Bin Laden accident at Blackbushe.

Magplug 1st Apr 2019 08:32

Whilst it is quite possible that there is a perfectly straightforward technical or human factors explanation behind such a sad loss...... It is apparently dangerous to one's health to be a successful business person in Russia these days.

BRE 1st Apr 2019 08:42

Not only is it not a jet, but it is also a kit aircraft without a type certificate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_LT_Dynasty

Less Hair 1st Apr 2019 08:51

It's said to be getting one soon.
https://beam.land/aviation/certifica...d-in-2019-2059

atakacs 1st Apr 2019 09:13

I am not saying it is necessarily of relevance here but what is the upshot of flying such an aircraft vs, say, a PC12.
Clearly she could afford it...

maggot 1st Apr 2019 09:15


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10435540)
I am not saying it is necessarily of relevance here but what is the upshot of flying such an aircraft vs, say, a PC12.
Clearly she could afford it...

Cross Putin and it doesn't matter what you fly

ChickenHouse 1st Apr 2019 09:18

The Epic looks like a big version of a Lance Evolution? 54 Epic built as Experimentals, two prototypes for certification with less 1,000 hours total in test - now only one prototype left? Did the S7 try to get the SET into airtaxi services? Let‘s see what this means for the almost done certification, maybe it is ‚done‘ now ;-).

Action appears to be quite astonishing. With the Russian Lady and her father on board, one may expect an ATPL or professional from their airline at the yoke? Or was the aircraft owned and flown by the father? Some we‘ll probably never know.

Rumors say, it appears the plane was too high and too fast on short final 08 when they decided to make a 360 at low altitude on short final diagonal through the traffic pattern, <500ft and high bank angles are under discussion. Why would one even consider that with such a hot bird - not go-around and do another approach, but do such a heavy stunt on low short final?

PerPurumTonantes 1st Apr 2019 09:31


Originally Posted by GMEDX (Post 10435512)
A real shame to be an airline owner and very rich but killed in a single pilot kit plane. Reminds be of the Bin Laden accident at Blackbushe.

Or a footballer and very rich but killed in a single prop piloted by a plumber... Or a rally driver and very rich but killed in a helicopter... Or a football club owner in Leicester... Or a racing driver and his team at Elstree...

Does seem a bit odd that it keeps happening. You would think that privileged people would be more educated as to risk. But clearly not.

(edit: note that Leicester crash due to mechanical failure. https://assets.publishing.service.go...018_G-VSKP.pdf)

Alpine Flyer 1st Apr 2019 10:01


Originally Posted by PerPurumTonantes (Post 10435560)
Does seem a bit odd that it keeps happening. You would think that privileged people would be more educated as to risk. But clearly not.

Even one step higher up with Citation-grade equipment, according to a pilot friend working at various small jet charter companies, there are customers who demand safety and rested pilots and customers who don't care....

Flying around in a kitplane isn't what would worry me, applying different safety standards rather so.

His dudeness 1st Apr 2019 10:20


Originally Posted by PerPurumTonantes (Post 10435560)
Or a footballer and very rich but killed in a single prop piloted by a plumber... Or a rally driver and very rich but killed in a helicopter... Or a football club owner in Leicester... Or a racing driver and his team at Elstree...

Does seem a bit odd that it keeps happening. You would think that privileged people would be more educated as to risk. But clearly not.

Having flown privileged people for now almost 30 years, some are, most aren´t.


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